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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:56:00 -
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I know that before crisis, capital components on contracts usually. Came with 5 runs or less, not sure if due to limitations or because of market demands. Is there a possible way to obtain bpcs with more than 5 runs? I imagine I could get in contact with someone who has the blueprints, I'm just not sure what the limitations are, or if there might be a market already existing for then. |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:18:00 -
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Rowells wrote:I know that before crisis, capital components on contracts usually. Came with 5 runs or less, not sure if due to limitations or because of market demands. Is there a possible way to obtain bpcs with more than 5 runs? I imagine I could get in contact with someone who has the blueprints, I'm just not sure what the limitations are, or if there might be a market already existing for then.
40-run max now. Sorry you haven't found any on contracts. At this point a copy job on a 40-run BPC will be beyond 30 days though if they are copying the max number of copies allowed, so I guess these new copies haven't hit the market yet. Give it until late August early September. They'll hit the market. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4024
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:19:00 -
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Max run per copy on capital BPC is now 40. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:37:00 -
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Yay, no more 10 sets of bpcs and I can take better advantage if the multiple runs savings. |
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2014.08.10 10:43:00 -
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I get the impression as regards demand that five run capital BPCs are still the most popular as opposed to ten or higher runs. I think there are one or two operations offering 40 run BPCs on contracts so I suggest you look them up and contact them with offers of business.
We did some ten runs the other day but they are not flying off the presses so we may end up putting them into stock. Certainly where people are using POSes to manufacture capital parts they may not want to have multiple day manufacturing jobs going with large amounts of materials used. If a wardec was announced they could incur large losses when cancelling jobs to take down their infrastructure. |
Kendra Coldera
Ripoff Industries
22
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Posted - 2014.08.10 13:54:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Rowells wrote:I know that before crisis, capital components on contracts usually. Came with 5 runs or less, not sure if due to limitations or because of market demands. Is there a possible way to obtain bpcs with more than 5 runs? I imagine I could get in contact with someone who has the blueprints, I'm just not sure what the limitations are, or if there might be a market already existing for then. 40-run max now. Sorry you haven't found any on contracts. At this point a copy job on a 40-run BPC will be beyond 30 days though if they are copying the max number of copies allowed, so I guess these new copies haven't hit the market yet. Give it until late August early September. They'll hit the market.
Dude? Making a 40run copy takes something like 2days max. It is faster than production, remember?
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I get the impression as regards demand that five run capital BPCs are still the most popular as opposed to ten or higher runs. I think there are one or two operations offering 40 run BPCs on contracts so I suggest you look them up and contact them with offers of business.
Nope it is because people are dumb. 40 runs are likely 8 times as expensive. People search for Cap Prop Engine at lets say 5m ISK for 5. So they do not look at the copies that cost 40m because they think it is a SCAM while indeed they would benefit because those are the 40 run prints. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4026
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:32:00 -
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Kendra Coldera wrote:Nope it is because people are dumb. 40 runs are likely 8 times as expensive. People search for Cap Prop Engine at lets say 5m ISK for 5. So they do not look at the copies that cost 40m because they think it is a SCAM while indeed they would benefit because those are the 40 run prints. Bingo! |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
76
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:52:00 -
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Kendra Coldera wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:Rowells wrote:I know that before crisis, capital components on contracts usually. Came with 5 runs or less, not sure if due to limitations or because of market demands. Is there a possible way to obtain bpcs with more than 5 runs? I imagine I could get in contact with someone who has the blueprints, I'm just not sure what the limitations are, or if there might be a market already existing for then. 40-run max now. Sorry you haven't found any on contracts. At this point a copy job on a 40-run BPC will be beyond 30 days though if they are copying the max number of copies allowed, so I guess these new copies haven't hit the market yet. Give it until late August early September. They'll hit the market. Dude? Making a 40run copy takes something like 2days max. It is faster than production, remember? Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I get the impression as regards demand that five run capital BPCs are still the most popular as opposed to ten or higher runs. I think there are one or two operations offering 40 run BPCs on contracts so I suggest you look them up and contact them with offers of business. Nope it is because people are dumb. 40 runs are likely 8 times as expensive. People search for Cap Prop Engine at lets say 5m ISK for 5. So they do not look at the copies that cost 40m because they think it is a SCAM while indeed they would benefit because those are the 40 run prints.
Yes people are indeed dumb. Like when I state that a job of 40-run BPCs takes 30 days if they are making the max number of copies allowed (about 15) and I get a response that 1 40-run copy takes 2 days. |
Mark Munoz
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.08.12 01:29:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Kendra Coldera wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:Rowells wrote:I know that before crisis, capital components on contracts usually. Came with 5 runs or less, not sure if due to limitations or because of market demands. Is there a possible way to obtain bpcs with more than 5 runs? I imagine I could get in contact with someone who has the blueprints, I'm just not sure what the limitations are, or if there might be a market already existing for then. 40-run max now. Sorry you haven't found any on contracts. At this point a copy job on a 40-run BPC will be beyond 30 days though if they are copying the max number of copies allowed, so I guess these new copies haven't hit the market yet. Give it until late August early September. They'll hit the market. Dude? Making a 40run copy takes something like 2days max. It is faster than production, remember? Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I get the impression as regards demand that five run capital BPCs are still the most popular as opposed to ten or higher runs. I think there are one or two operations offering 40 run BPCs on contracts so I suggest you look them up and contact them with offers of business. Nope it is because people are dumb. 40 runs are likely 8 times as expensive. People search for Cap Prop Engine at lets say 5m ISK for 5. So they do not look at the copies that cost 40m because they think it is a SCAM while indeed they would benefit because those are the 40 run prints. Yes people are indeed dumb. Like when I state that a job of 40-run BPCs takes 30 days if they are making the max number of copies allowed (about 15) and I get a response that 1 40-run copy takes 2 days.
Yes and if you make 1 copy with 40 runs it is ~2 days. She wasn't referencing how long it takes for you to do max runs and max copies, just max runs on 1 copy. |
Bertrand Prout
Sunday Sessions
50
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Posted - 2014.08.12 15:31:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Yay, no more 10 sets of bpcs and I can take better advantage if the multiple runs savings. You actually don't save much from more runs with capital components, it's more with the ship itself that you can save a few parts if done right.. though for that you need a BPO since you can't make 2 runs BPCs. |
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1167
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Posted - 2014.08.12 15:59:00 -
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Bertrand Prout wrote:Rowells wrote:Yay, no more 10 sets of bpcs and I can take better advantage if the multiple runs savings. You actually don't save much from more runs with capital components, it's more with the ship itself that you can save a few parts if done right.. though for that you need a BPO since you can't make 2 runs BPCs. Through BPCs or BPOs? |
Bertrand Prout
Sunday Sessions
50
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Posted - 2014.08.12 22:00:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Bertrand Prout wrote:Rowells wrote:Yay, no more 10 sets of bpcs and I can take better advantage if the multiple runs savings. You actually don't save much from more runs with capital components, it's more with the ship itself that you can save a few parts if done right.. though for that you need a BPO since you can't make 2 runs BPCs. Through BPCs or BPOs? Mh let me rephrase. For parts, you will save 1 unit of mineral every other runs.. we're talking about 1 unit of mex, nocx or zyd saved every 3 runs or so, which at best is a 3-4k isk save per 3 parts. On the other hand, you can save a whole capital part from starting a 2 run job for, let's say, an Archon. But to start a 2 run job, you need a BPO since you can only make 1 run BPC.
Multiple run savings are mostly only good on items that require a small (less than 50-ish) amount of expensive components, like capital ships or t2 rigs. |
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