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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.13 23:34:00 -
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Agreed with the first poster, if i pay 200m+ for a frigate i want something worth what i just spent.
Same goes for a faction battleship or cruiser, theyre designed to be better for a reason
If you can't beat em' join em'
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:47:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:OP is OP, price is not a good reason to make an overpowered ship. See: Old school Titans.
Comparing the worm, rattler, and Gila to the old day titans is like going from "across the pond" kind of a stretch to "jumped 8 and a half buses on a rocket propelled peddal bike blindfolded" kind of stretch.
The old school titans were WAY too OP but it was also because nothing of the sort had been conceived before in EvE, they were the first attempt at creating true "Flagships" for fleets, and have since been reduced. Where as these ships do have other stepping stools to go off of. In truth sure you get far more DPS out of these ships than MOST other ships but there are still ships than can outperform them and they still die like anything else.
in fact their biggest weakness is their drones, which once dead eliminate 70% of their Damage Application. A worm without drones is just an expensive painted hawk. A Gila without drones is a really bad Moa. And a rattler may as well just be a tanky scorpion with no jams.
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:02:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Jesus, stop whining already. When the Guristas ships were changed everybody were whining how underpowered they now were, now people are whining the opposite.
Besides, what did you lose?
Its funny because the mining community cried about how hard it was to survive a gank so CCP buffed the procurer and skiff, now they cry about the fleets of skiffs drinking away all the ore and ice in relative safety or the bait skiffs that kill their combat ships. Its like a bad circle of life.
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:23:00 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:A Gila is completely capable of hitting over 1000DPS with augmented drones and overheated rage. How is that not OP? I like using the Gila, is a monster. But I can say it needs nerf.
An orthrus with RLM's and integrated hobgoblins gets 983 DPS with a 5% bonus to light missile damage, goes 4km/s and can get a 1.4k DPS Asb tank. Not to mention pointing at 70+kms or the possibility of a 30km scram.
The pirate ships all stand out as viable options for PVP, the gila just climbed the ladder faster than other ships. People need to step back and look at all of them. I mean the cynabal can get 22km/s with a certain ( non Combat ) fit. they all have something they do well you just have to look for it.
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
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