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Meogeo
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:28:00 -
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I have been in Dek for about 6 months and till this week our Corp has decided to pull out due to circumstances in the region, We have allways got on great with everyone in the region, Things were great when IRON had soveriegnty, but for some unknown reason to me IRON decided to call it a day in Dek. Then came the NFC which seems not to have got to to grips with the region, to many alliances held different parts of Dek, how was this going to work FLA, NFC and Sparta living in perfect peace. Would never work, where did Sparta come from why did they get a piece of the pie. What a **** situation no wonder it was ready to blow out of proportion.
Next was an ultimatum to take our Pos's in the region, hell we only had 1 small one to FLA's vast ammount of POS's.
And now IRON want the region back, never had a problem with that but why leave in the first place.
Can some one from IRON shed any light on what is happening?
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Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:30:00 -
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As far as I know IRON had some internal problems around the time G was reformed in D2, resulting in some Corps being kicked from IRON and IRON taking a break from claiming a Region.
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Darko1107
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:41:00 -
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I did make a massive post about it....  .
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Meogeo
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:46:00 -
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And not even a link to the post...intresting
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Laythun
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Meogeo
And not even a link to the post...intresting
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Adril Alatar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Meogeo
And not even a link to the post...intresting
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=319657
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Anille Kole
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:57:00 -
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Leadership conflicts. Lots and lots and lots of leadership conflicts. From what I gather, the NFC leadership was trying to stifle the FLA, including actions that breached the peace agreement between them and general acts of disrespect. Apparently, IRON then returned to the region and helped the FLA for whatever reason(I believe they wanted to try region control again, and saw this as an opportunity), and after a week of NFC propaganda, a lack of information inside NFC, several fleet battles, and a massive amount of -10 for the NFC annoying the hell out of a large amount of people caused the NFC to disband. The majority of the NFC then joined Sparta, which seemed to make them insane, causing them to not only then declare that they were over NFC space, which was going to go to IRON/FLA/whoever, but that they were aligning with GoonSwarm. IRON/FLA/whoever than began shooting at Sparta, and again a distinct lack of internal organization and information was seen when very few Sparta members actually knew what was going on and a large volume of players actually started posting on the forums questioning why they were being shot at. This, along with lots of corporations leaving and the hiring of the MC, added up to Sparta successfully losing vast amounts of POS and sovereignty, which ultimately will lead to their disbanding as well unless drastic measures are taken.
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Zillazuki
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:09:00 -
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As far as I know we have already disbanded? Not sure as I haven't logged in yet. But the fact that lots of our corps are looking for temporary blue to pull our crap out seem to point in this direction.
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chingon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zillazuki
As far as I know we have already disbanded? Not sure as I haven't logged in yet. But the fact that lots of our corps are looking for temporary blue to pull our crap out seem to point in this direction.
I can confirm sparta no longer exists,all corporations have been pushed out...
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sableye
O.R.C. Outrage Compliant
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Anille Kole
Leadership conflicts. Lots and lots and lots of leadership conflicts. From what I gather, the NFC leadership was trying to stifle the FLA, including actions that breached the peace agreement between them and general acts of disrespect. Apparently, IRON then returned to the region and helped the FLA for whatever reason(I believe they wanted to try region control again, and saw this as an opportunity), and after a week of NFC propaganda, a lack of information inside NFC, several fleet battles, and a massive amount of -10 for the NFC annoying the hell out of a large amount of people caused the NFC to disband. The majority of the NFC then joined Sparta, which seemed to make them insane, causing them to not only then declare that they were over NFC space, which was going to go to IRON/FLA/whoever, but that they were aligning with GoonSwarm. IRON/FLA/whoever than began shooting at Sparta, and again a distinct lack of internal organization and information was seen when very few Sparta members actually knew what was going on and a large volume of players actually started posting on the forums questioning why they were being shot at. This, along with lots of corporations leaving and the hiring of the MC, added up to Sparta successfully losing vast amounts of POS and sovereignty, which ultimately will lead to their disbanding as well unless drastic measures are taken.
I don;nt thik it was amount of -10's that caused nfc to disband to be honest in fact I know it was'nt not saying nfc could have won the war in the long run but there's no way we were ready to fall apart at that point in time.
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Anille Kole
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Anille Kole on 18/07/2006 12:44:34
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Anille Kole
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I don;nt thik it was amount of -10's that caused nfc to disband to be honest in fact I know it was'nt not saying nfc could have won the war in the long run but there's no way we were ready to fall apart at that point in time.
Yes, but that was one of the primary excuses on the forum. I'm actually starting to believe, strongly, that the disbanding and subsequent joining of Sparta was an attempt to abuse their neutrality and keep their space while avoiding the war.
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Eta Carinea
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.07.18 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Anille Kole
Edited by: Anille Kole on 18/07/2006 12:44:34
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Anille Kole
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I don;nt thik it was amount of -10's that caused nfc to disband to be honest in fact I know it was'nt not saying nfc could have won the war in the long run but there's no way we were ready to fall apart at that point in time.
Yes, but that was one of the primary excuses on the forum. I'm actually starting to believe, strongly, that the disbanding and subsequent joining of Sparta was an attempt to abuse their neutrality and keep their space while avoiding the war.
To be honest, the real reason was the same reason IRON got fed up when they left dek just after before the G disband saga. One of the biggest complaints from IRON was how so many people in the Region were not getting involved in the fleet operations. I believe those same corps were swallowed up under the NFC banner and still did nothing.
I recall being at the first meeting that involved the election of the president of the NFC, Hyp our CEO was unable to attend so myself and Ozzie stood in his place. The meeting was the ushal each candidate giving thier spill as to why they should be leader. It came down too two people one of the candidates was the diplomat, the politician, the creater of republics and councils and senates . The other the military commander, with dictatorial tendencies. IMHO and too this day the wrong person won that day. This takes nothing away from the Ex NFC president but to be honest we needed to secure borders build a fighting force and it needed to be done quickly. Diplomacy should have come later at that time the military needed full control.
Just my opinion
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ilmonstre on 18/07/2006 13:03:43
Originally by: chingon
Originally by: Zillazuki
As far as I know we have already disbanded? Not sure as I haven't logged in yet. But the fact that lots of our corps are looking for temporary blue to pull our crap out seem to point in this direction.
I can confirm sparta no longer exists,all corporations have been pushed out...
yeah i just noticed IRON now holds the station in CZDJ
edit : forgot to mention the system
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Laythun
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 13:12:00 -
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The past shall be laid to rest.
The rebuilding of dekelin shall begin.
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Harisdrop
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 13:17:00 -
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It is not uncommon for Alliances to have strife and discontent. If there is a perfect Alliance that has no ill thought to the PVP side that they dont protect the Carebears, and the carebears not fighting with the PVP, I would be worried.
The issue that we all have to come to grips with is that Eve is more a social game and thna a game of pixels. Could an Alliance function without voice coms? Can you be an island of a corp in an alliance? Can you be an island of a player in a corp? These questions have not only been relevant today but once the Alliance ideal was formed.
The real reason for Alliances still is hard to pin point. It comes down to one thing tho. space control. IF you want to use the ingame Alliance feature the reall advantage for today's mechanics is Play owned stations and POS sov. If there is a corp that likes roaming around and ganking players is the Alliance formulation ideal. I think not.
Soo today we must find balances. Between pvp and carebears to survive longer than a month in an Alliance all sides need all the information. Know thier objectives. Trust all leadership choices. Select good active players.
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Derek Rainier
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:54:00 -
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I definitely came into this region and corp in the brief calm before the storm & have spent a couple of weeks trying to figure out exactly what was happening and why. I'm still not 100% sure, there are diplomatic and personal conflicts that we'll probably never know the true nature of.
I don't have any reason to believe the NFC was trying to stifle FLA any more than FLA was trying to bully the NFC out of a system (3JN?). One truth is that far too few NFC corps were able to produce PVP'ers and in general the NFC was too young as a cohesive entity to face the challenges thrown at it. Of course, if you are going to topple an alliance it's best to do it before it takes strong root.
There is alot of drama out here in 0.0, which is why this game is more interesting than others - how many can you have a real geopolitical conflict as well as tactical combat and everything in between?
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