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Dred 'Morte Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:16:00 - [31] Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 20/07/2006 11:17:53 Originally by: Eefrit I agree with the fact that shield and armor tanks should not be the same. In general I think they are evenly balanced with the exception of the officer mods... can we say Gistii. The difference between a T2 shield tank and a Gistii shield tank is insane. No armor mods even come close to that level of tanking. Do we really want officer mods to make THAT much of a difference. Numbers: Gistii tank: 672Hp, 204 cap, 4 seconds, 43.125% boost amp with skills: 672HP, 183.6 cap, 3 seconds, 43.125% boost amp This gives an overall: 320.6 HP/sec, 5.24 HP / cap Compare this to the best Armor tank mods. Using Chelm's modified Large Armor Rep: 1260HP, 450 cap, 15 seconds with skills: 1260HP 450 cap, 11.25 seconds This gives an overall: 112 HP/sec, 2.8 HP / cap or with 2 x Chelms: 224 HP/sec, 2.8 HP/cap This is more than 43% better HP/sec, and 87% better HP/cap. Not to mention easier fitting imho. Also you could add a second SBA and then you would get insane levels of HP/sec and HP/cap. T2 is different but balanced. Officer is nowhere near balanced. **removed... didn't read all your post, sorry My Apocalypse can use 8 Megapulses II, 2 Large Armor REpairers II and 3 hardeners forever as long as I don't get nosferaturized. Personally, I think armor tank vs shield tank is balanced and different, a difficult achievment. Shield tank repairs more HP/S but armor tank is more efficient (cap wise). Gistii are simply overpowered POS. CCP will nerf them soon. Signature made by Mr Floppykickners*
Syl'Ani Sachem	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:02:00 - [32] Just a quick thought from a newbie concerning the "I can't help me armor tnk with mid slots" ... Cap Recharger anyone? Or did i miss sth here?
Janus Ovellian Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe LARII, 800 hp, 15 sec, 400 cap skills : 25% less time. 800 hp, 11.25 sec, 400 cap. 800 hp / 11.25 sec = 71.11 hp/sec, or 142.22 hp/sec with dual rep 800 hp/400 cap, 2 hp / cap XLSB II, 600 hp, 5 sec, 400 cap; skills : 10% less capacitor, 25% less time. 600 hp, 360 cap, 3.75 sec. 600 hp/3.75 = 160 hp/sec 600 hp / 360 cap = 1.66 hp/cap now XLbooster II + Shield Boost Amp II, which adds 30% making it 780 per cycle. 780 / 3.75 = 208 hp/sec 780/360 = 2 hp/cap. You've included some imaginary skill in the shield calculations that reduces the cycle time of shield boosters. Numbers affected should be: XLSB II = 120 hp/sec XLSB II + SBA II = 156 hp/sec Interesting times await...
Lorette Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:02:00 - [34] Edited by: Lorette on 20/07/2006 13:04:43 dear god ate my post twice...i give up EDIT: hopes this works T2 is pretty much equal as is imo, but as said before gist mods + crystal set = As for possible skills, -2% cap isnt to good as its just straight stealing of the shield-skill, why not get something funky like +2% hp boosted. That gives 880 on a T2 rep instead of the usual 800 at lv5.
Nyxus GALAXIAN	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:09:00 - [35] Really I just wish they would remove the EM hardening component to EANs and EAN II's. Then all the armor tanking resists would be about 60/60/60/60 with racial ship resists providing a bit of variation and flavour. Nyxus Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
Gaius Sejanus Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 14:48:00 - [36] Quote: As for possible skills, -2% cap isnt to good as its just straight stealing of the shield-skill, why not get something funky like +2% hp boosted. That gives 880 on a T2 rep instead of the usual 800 at lv5. That's another good option. Don't really care what form it takes, it would just be nice to have more than 1 skill that worked on an armor repairer. Afterburners have what, 3 skills? A second repper related skill doesn't seem too much to ask.
Eefrit VakAtioth	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Gaius Sejanus Quote: As for possible skills, -2% cap isnt to good as its just straight stealing of the shield-skill, why not get something funky like +2% hp boosted. That gives 880 on a T2 rep instead of the usual 800 at lv5. That's another good option. Don't really care what form it takes, it would just be nice to have more than 1 skill that worked on an armor repairer. Afterburners have what, 3 skills? A second repper related skill doesn't seem too much to ask. Agreed
Guillame Herschel	Posted - 2006.07.20 20:08:00 - [38] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 20/07/2006 20:08:31 Originally by: Gaius Sejanus I just wish there was a skill (say, Rank 6 or 7) which gave a 2% reduction per level to the cap needs of an armor repairer. That'd be nice without being grotesque. Hull Upgrades skill should do that, instead of the cpu reduction. Not one of the armor tanking ships I fly is short on cpu (maybe thanks to HU on the AF, but AWU seems more important for reducing cpu). It's PG and cap that bug an armor tank. But I'll /sign for Advanced Hull Upgrades skill that reduces cap or pg for armor and hull mods.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.07.20 20:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 20/07/2006 20:08:31 Originally by: Gaius Sejanus I just wish there was a skill (say, Rank 6 or 7) which gave a 2% reduction per level to the cap needs of an armor repairer. That'd be nice without being grotesque. Hull Upgrades skill should do that, instead of the cpu reduction. Not one of the armor tanking ships I fly is short on cpu (maybe thanks to HU on the AF, but AWU seems more important for reducing cpu). It's PG and cap that bug an armor tank. But I'll /sign for Advanced Hull Upgrades skill that reduces cap or pg for armor and hull mods. I like my 25% extra armor hitpoints, tyvm. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Anasur	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:55:00 - [40] If they nerf the faction boosters they better cut the cpu requirements on the x-large. Half the reason people pay so much for the faction is that fitting a T2-X-large is godawful, 215cpu for the lose.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2006.07.20 22:05:00 - [41] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 20/07/2006 22:05:49 Originally by: Nyxus Really I just wish they would remove the EM hardening component to EANs and EAN II's. And how about the explosive hardening of invulnerability fields (I'm not so sure that it's a good idea really, but it could be after all). I think reducing the cpu requirements of active hardeners would go a long way if we want another reason to fit active hardeners more often, it never made any sense to me to have active hardeners require more cpu than damage mods. NB.
The Jimrod	Posted - 2006.07.20 23:06:00 - [42] On a side note, isn't shield tanking better purely because of the extra buffer? I have lost a couple of Mallers early on due to gambling on the armour/warp getaway times and lost out by fractions of a second, arriving at my destination in a pod. With shields however you get the luxury of having your armour buffer as well as the hull. Just my two cents :D "Wherever you go... there you are"
Vera Nosfyu Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 23:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Liet Traep Originally by: Master Jimrod Hi, just wondering if armour compensation skills for Thermal, Kinetic etc affect EAN's as well as the specific resistance plates? Thanks for help :) I REALLY wish you hadn't brought this question up. EAN's and armor comp skills work pretty well and make for a nice sustainable tank. Why don't I wish you to bring this up? The moment something works nice in this game someone will ask to nerf it. So if you find a nice combo like this that works well and it isn't too broken? DON'T MENTION IT OR SOMEONE WILL SCREAM IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Hence Aramendel's post. EAN and armor comp skills work pretty well, are popular and aren't broken. Enjoy them. There's several other things in this game that need balancing and much more in need of fixing. Like the bellicose. Is there anyway to make this ship not suck? OMGZ!!!!!!11 UR RITE!!!!1 NERF ARMO)R TNAKING@!!!!!1 ----------------------------------------------------------- "Violence solves all problems, no man, no problem." --Josef Stalin

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