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Ooger Rubicon Weekend Warriors Inc	Posted - 2006.07.19 07:48:00 - [1] Hi, for those of you who were not born in sweden, finland, norway or iceland and don't have a clue about Norse mythology: Huginn and Muninn Sleipnir Ragnarok Nidhoggur Fenrir Hel Naglfar Did I miss any? Oh, and by the way, Huginn is pronounced "hoogin" or "hewgin" even, definately not "huggin'" as heard on Eve-TV. Same goes for Muninn: "moonin" or "mewnin" is correct.
TuRtLe HeAd Apocalypse Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:19:00 - [2] Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 19/07/2006 08:21:00 einherji Valkyrie Not technically ships, but still a part of Norse Mythology Nonetheless.
Ooger Rubicon Weekend Warriors Inc	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:23:00 - [3] Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 19/07/2006 08:21:00 einherji Valkyrie Not technically ships, but still a part of Norse Mythology Nonetheless. Einherji? What is that? It's not a ship right?
Arngorf Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Ooger Rubicon Oh, and by the way, Huginn is pronounced "hoogin" or "hewgin" even, definately not "huggin'" as heard on Eve-TV. Same goes for Muninn: "moonin" or "mewnin" is correct. Mewnin ??? Hewgin ??? eh? oh... yea... that is your Swedish In Denmark we do pronounce it "Hoogin" and "Moonin" as far as i know... maybe Moonin is more like "Myynin" spoken out load with a rusty old vikings accent.. ________________________________________________ FORMER!!! I said FORMER Pirate...
Arngorf Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Ooger Rubicon Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 19/07/2006 08:21:00 einherji Valkyrie Not technically ships, but still a part of Norse Mythology Nonetheless. Einherji? What is that? It's not a ship right? The Minmatar Carriers Fighters ________________________________________________ FORMER!!! I said FORMER Pirate...
Wat0721 GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:28:00 - [6] Edited by: Wat0721 on 19/07/2006 08:29:10 Einherji = Fighter drone. My favorite, at that :P. EDIT: DAMMIT! Two responses between me finding a picture, cutting it up, resaving it, hosting it, and then linking it?! ---
Ooger Rubicon Weekend Warriors Inc	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Arngorf Mewnin ??? Hewgin ??? eh? oh... yea... that is your Swedish In Denmark we do pronounce it "Hoogin" and "Moonin" as far as i know... maybe Moonin is more like "Myynin" spoken out load with a rusty old vikings accent.. Heh...yea, that's what it sounds like in swedish anyway. But Hoogin and Moonin would probalby be better.
Ooger Rubicon Weekend Warriors Inc	Posted - 2006.07.19 08:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Arngorf The Minmatar Carriers Fighters Ahh...Thanks!
Tsanse Kinske Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Ooger Rubicon Oh, and by the way, Huginn is pronounced "hoogin" or "hewgin" even, definately not "huggin'" as heard on Eve-TV. Same goes for Muninn: "moonin" or "mewnin" is correct. And Naglfar? Nag-ull-far? * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Azerrad	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:50:00 - [10] Minmatar = Vikings?
Vaevalis	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:53:00 - [11] Minmatar = Slaves
Krulla Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Ooger Rubicon Oh, and by the way, Huginn is pronounced "hoogin" or "hewgin" even, definately not "huggin'" as heard on Eve-TV. Same goes for Muninn: "moonin" or "mewnin" is correct. You're also wrong. Mewnin and Hewgin are way out there, hoogin and moonin are closer but still wrong. Speaking as a native icelandic speaker, It's pretty much impossible to "type" the correct pronouncation in english, as the U and G sounds in Huginn and Muninn simply do not exist in english.
Unuthiel Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:49:00 - [13] The early documentation for the Chinese server had a lot of background on the races thet we've never seen, it mentioned that linguistically/culturally the Minmatar were Scandinavian/African, with a few other things thrown in. Caldari were Finnish/something (hence all the Finnish Caldari names). Amarr were Serbian/something, Gallente were French/something.
Imhotep Khem Vortex.	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:14:00 - [14] If Minmatar get these ship names so close to Icelandic heritage, why does CCP seem to think about Minmatar last all the time? ____ "If your not dyin' your not tryin'." "Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?" DuGalle
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:16:00 - [15] Yeah, in Norway we also say Huginn and Muninn.
TuRtLe HeAd Apocalypse Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:32:00 - [16] One that *****s me up is For GAllente (I realise not norse related) Dem-ee-os. Its actually Dee-Mos or Day-Mos. Ive even seen Mega-thron Pronounced Mega-Thorn Which makes me chuckle.
Mudkest	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:32:00 - [17] Originally by: Krulla Edited by: Krulla on 19/07/2006 18:11:35 Edited by: Krulla on 19/07/2006 18:09:42 Edited by: Krulla on 19/07/2006 18:08:00 Edited by: Krulla on 19/07/2006 18:07:14 Originally by: Ooger Rubicon Oh, and by the way, Huginn is pronounced "hoogin" or "hewgin" even, definately not "huggin'" as heard on Eve-TV. Same goes for Muninn: "moonin" or "mewnin" is correct. You're also wrong. Mewnin and Hewgin are way out there, hoogin and moonin are closer but still wrong. Speaking as a native icelandic speaker, It's pretty much impossible to "type" the correct pronouncation in english, as the U and G sounds in Huginn and Muninn simply do not exist in english. you have a mic and want to let us all know how it is pronounced? 8) - It is much more efficient to talk to yourself in person than via the chat system. Now imagine the unimaginable
Elaron Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:54:00 - [18] A few other (non-ship) items that I don't have time to dig up links for: Gjallerhorn (Minmatar superweapon; the name is highly appropriate) Mjolnir torpedo Thor capital torpedo The interested can surely dig up their own links :) Elaron It is never too late to correct the mistakes of the past.
Krulla Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 15:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Mudkest you have a mic and want to let us all know how it is pronounced? 8) Sure, but no place to host the audio files.
Hailstorm GALAXIAN	Posted - 2006.07.20 16:11:00 - [20] Although not specific to Minmatar; Mjolnir
Hailstorm GALAXIAN	Posted - 2006.07.20 16:15:00 - [21] Also don't forget Ragnarok
Soyemia Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:01:00 - [22] Finland isint part of norse mythology really (some parts are, but Finland have different mythology), as we were not viking nation. We have Kalevala, own gods and way different mythology. Proud member of fix. Hated on finnish channel.
Tsanse Kinske Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:24:00 - [23] Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Tsanse Kinske And Naglfar? Nag-ull-far? Nagl-far. Still not entirely accurate, as the L sound, once again, doesn't exist in english. The easiest and closest way for a english speaker however would be something like Nag-l-far. That still leaves the L pretty skewed. Those three consonants in a row doesn't work in English. Is the word three syllables? Two and a half? Or is it just hopeless for a non-Viking? * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Krulla Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 18:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Those three consonants in a row doesn't work in English. Is the word three syllables? Two and a half? Or is it just hopeless for a non-Viking? It's two. Nagl-far. The gl is nearly identical to the gl in Glide, for instance.
Zaphoniggan Lordless Unbrella Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.20 19:03:00 - [25] If Nidhoggur is a cool dragon in mythology, why does the ship just look like someone ripped the roof off a barn? ------------------------------ I refuse to use a sig until my picture is up .... Wait this is a sig
Evangeline d'Arcy Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 19:07:00 - [26] Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 19/07/2006 08:21:00 einherji Valkyrie Not technically ships, but still a part of Norse Mythology Nonetheless. Do note that they (predominantly) do explosive damage, which is the Minmatar racial damage type. The Berserker heavy drone also does explosive damage, and its namesake is of Norse origin as well. _________________________
Jaeuhl	Posted - 2006.07.20 19:31:00 - [27] I like swedish fish, Norse mythology, and swedish girls. (not in that order)
Darius Shakor Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 19:33:00 - [28] Gjallarhorn (Titan doomsday weapon) ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal Every man has a devil. You can never rest until you find it.
Foulis Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 20:10:00 - [29] Originally by: Zapho***n If Nidhoggur is a cool dragon in mythology, why does the ship just look like someone ripped the roof off a barn? I like how the Nidhoggur looks personally... ---- Cake > Pie - Imaran Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:11:00 - [30] Why do I forsee a capital ship called Heimdall in the near future... TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Riddari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Krulla Though of course, other scandinavian languages would pronounce it differently - However, I consider Icelandic the authority on ancient nordic names and words, as Icelandic has barely changed at all since Iceland was colonized in the early 1000s - Modern Icelanders can still read books written eight hundred years ago with little to no difficulties. It is the language which most closely resembles Ancient Nordic, which was the language spoken throughout Scandinavia, before being influenced by other european languages and eventually splitting into Norweigan, Swedish and Danish in the 1500s, while Icelandic remained relatively unchanged because of it's isolation. Well this is the myth we do like to propogate as Icelanders. The truth is a bit shadier, pronounciation has changed drastically since ancient times according to studies (don't ask me how they found that out) and the ancient texts do suffer from a shortage of vowels. ¼+¼ a history
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.07.20 22:46:00 - [32] Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Those three consonants in a row doesn't work in English. Is the word three syllables? Two and a half? Or is it just hopeless for a non-Viking? It's two. Nagl-far. The gl is nearly identical to the gl in Glide, for instance. Wow, I'd really love to know how Huggin and Muninn are meant to be pronounced, I am mostly German in heritage and start learning the langauge in about a month, and Germans are pretty close arent they? Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Amaro Ray	Posted - 2006.07.20 23:28:00 - [33] Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:31:31 Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:30:06 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd One that *****s me up is For GAllente (I realise not norse related) Dem-ee-os. Its actually Dee-Mos or Day-Mos. Ive even seen Mega-thron Pronounced Mega-Thorn Which makes me chuckle. I think in French the S is silent at the end. I think it may be pronounced Duh. And Moe as in the 3 stooges namesake so it would be pronounced something like duh-moe But if it is named after one of the moons of Mars it would be pronounced DEE-mos and is a Greek word.
Wat0721 GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.07.21 00:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Amaro Ray Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:31:31 Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:30:06 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd One that *****s me up is For GAllente (I realise not norse related) Dem-ee-os. Its actually Dee-Mos or Day-Mos. Ive even seen Mega-thron Pronounced Mega-Thorn Which makes me chuckle. I think in French the S is silent at the end. I think it may be pronounced Duh. And Moe as in the 3 stooges namesake so it would be pronounced something like duh-moe But if it is named after one of the moons of Mars it would be pronounced DEE-mos and is a Greek word. I'd always heard "die" + "MOS[t]"...though I doubt that's correct. ---
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.07.21 00:47:00 - [35] Edited by: Outa Rileau on 21/07/2006 00:48:19 how many times has this thread been started now? BTW the icelandic way to pronounce Huginn and Muninn, cannot be wirtten in english... ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000
Omatje Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:17:00 - [36] No wonder that Minmatar ships have split weapon systems, the Hugin and Munin are ravens Sig removed, please keep it below 24000 bytes etc.. - Xorus hmm...
Ereph Valkyrja	Posted - 2006.07.21 13:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Riddari Originally by: Krulla Though of course, other scandinavian languages would pronounce it differently - However, I consider Icelandic the authority on ancient nordic names and words, as Icelandic has barely changed at all since Iceland was colonized in the early 1000s - Modern Icelanders can still read books written eight hundred years ago with little to no difficulties. It is the language which most closely resembles Ancient Nordic, which was the language spoken throughout Scandinavia, before being influenced by other european languages and eventually splitting into Norweigan, Swedish and Danish in the 1500s, while Icelandic remained relatively unchanged because of it's isolation. Well this is the myth we do like to propogate as Icelanders. The truth is a bit shadier, pronounciation has changed drastically since ancient times according to studies (don't ask me how they found that out) and the ancient texts do suffer from a shortage of vowels. This is true, the spoken language has changed - however, less so than the other scandinavian languages. And the written language is nearly untouched, barring a few differences in spelling some words. The medival pronouncation of Huginn, for example, would be similar to the modern, however the modern has less emphasis on the vowels, and more on the double n ending.
Krulla Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 13:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Ereph Valkyrja Originally by: Riddari Originally by: Krulla Though of course, other scandinavian languages would pronounce it differently - However, I consider Icelandic the authority on ancient nordic names and words, as Icelandic has barely changed at all since Iceland was colonized in the early 1000s - Modern Icelanders can still read books written eight hundred years ago with little to no difficulties. It is the language which most closely resembles Ancient Nordic, which was the language spoken throughout Scandinavia, before being influenced by other european languages and eventually splitting into Norweigan, Swedish and Danish in the 1500s, while Icelandic remained relatively unchanged because of it's isolation. Well this is the myth we do like to propogate as Icelanders. The truth is a bit shadier, pronounciation has changed drastically since ancient times according to studies (don't ask me how they found that out) and the ancient texts do suffer from a shortage of vowels. This is true, the spoken language has changed - however, less so than the other scandinavian languages. And the written language is nearly untouched, barring a few differences in spelling some words. The medival pronouncation of Huginn, for example, would be similar to the modern, however the modern has less emphasis on the vowels, and more on the double n ending. Silly alt. That's meh. >_<
Virida Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.07.21 14:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Riddari Originally by: Krulla Though of course, other scandinavian languages would pronounce it differently - However, I consider Icelandic the authority on ancient nordic names and words, as Icelandic has barely changed at all since Iceland was colonized in the early 1000s - Modern Icelanders can still read books written eight hundred years ago with little to no difficulties. It is the language which most closely resembles Ancient Nordic, which was the language spoken throughout Scandinavia, before being influenced by other european languages and eventually splitting into Norweigan, Swedish and Danish in the 1500s, while Icelandic remained relatively unchanged because of it's isolation. Well this is the myth we do like to propogate as Icelanders. The truth is a bit shadier, pronounciation has changed drastically since ancient times according to studies (don't ask me how they found that out) and the ancient texts do suffer from a shortage of vowels. The dialects icelandic is derived from, is existing in modern norwegian in the western norway, "sogn og fjorane" i think. Its a small, weird dialect i think is hard to understand. If a modern icelander were meeting a viking from, say, trondelag, he would not understand anything, and the viking would not recognize the area the icelander were decended from, since, the voice devlopment has been going paralell in norwegian, and icelandic (in ONE dialect, tho).
Tsun Lao	Posted - 2006.07.21 15:05:00 - [40] Originally by: Virida If a modern icelander were meeting a viking from, say, trondelag, he would not understand anything, and the viking would not recognize the area the icelander were decended from, since, the voice devlopment has been going paralell in norwegian, and icelandic (in ONE dialect, tho). What? Snorres writings is Icelandic which at that time were identical to Norwegian. The Icelandic language has hardly changed for 800 years because of no external interference.
TuRtLe HeAd Apocalypse Enterprises Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.07.21 21:21:00 - [41] I forgot about the gallente ! Gallente are Greek mythological Names Diemos, Thanatos, Moros, Astarte etc...... and so on.
Krulla Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 21:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Tsun Lao Originally by: Virida If a modern icelander were meeting a viking from, say, trondelag, he would not understand anything, and the viking would not recognize the area the icelander were decended from, since, the voice devlopment has been going paralell in norwegian, and icelandic (in ONE dialect, tho). What? Snorres writings is Icelandic which at that time were identical to Norwegian. The Icelandic language has hardly changed for 800 years because of no external interference. This is true for the written language. Modern Icelanders can easily read the original version of Snorri's Edda, although some of the spelling and grammar might look a bit weird, it's still easily readable. However, the spoken language has changed quite a bit. If, hypothetically, a modern Icelander should meet someone from 800 years ago, they could probably understand each other, if they'd both talk very very slowly and deliberately. The biggest change is that modern icelandic places the greatest emphasis on the consonants (HuGiNN), while the medival spoken language places a greater one on the vowels (Probably sounded something along the lines of HuUgiIn)
Serious Bob	Posted - 2006.07.21 22:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Amaro Ray Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:31:31 Edited by: Amaro Ray on 20/07/2006 23:30:06 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd One that *****s me up is For GAllente (I realise not norse related) Dem-ee-os. Its actually Dee-Mos or Day-Mos. Ive even seen Mega-thron Pronounced Mega-Thorn Which makes me chuckle. I think in French the S is silent at the end. I think it may be pronounced Duh. And Moe as in the 3 stooges namesake so it would be pronounced something like duh-moe But if it is named after one of the moons of Mars it would be pronounced DEE-mos and is a Greek word. It is Greek and thus no silent s. "Daymos" I guess. But uh, I don't speak ancient Greek, so it's just a guess.
Jazz Bo Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.21 22:36:00 - [44] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/07/2006 22:37:13 Damn forums. (\_/) (O.o) (> <)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Clais Monaige	Posted - 2006.07.22 17:39:00 - [45] Edited by: Clais Monaige on 22/07/2006 17:38:59 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd I forgot about the gallente ! Gallente are Greek mythological Names Diemos, Thanatos, Moros, Astarte etc...... and so on. Regarding wikipedia Firbolg (Gallente fighter drone) is irish' origin (or celtic), as france was once settled by them it's no surprise for its use as a Gallentean name. Tristan (Gallente frigate) is again of celtic origin, meaning something like "clanging sword". Though i would like to see more like that since they imho fit better than greek. But that could be stupid because they sound similar to the nordic names of the matari _____________________________ - be excellent to each other -

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