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Megadon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:24:00 -
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Quick question...
Is Eve going to get an integrated killboard/player ranking system in Kali? or at some point in the future? Does anyone have any info on this?
Thanks!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:26:00 -
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:28:00 -
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In a word, no.
Success in EVE has almost nothing to do with how many people you kill. One kill by one person could be more important than 500 kills by someone else, and still other people are vastly more important despite never having killed anybody.
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Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:35:00 -
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NO.
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Galk
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:36:00 -
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Hope not..
Kill/death ratio scores kill the game, like they do virtualy every game.
I allways find it extremely depressing when half my team when playing tfc are playing for kill ratio score on the board only:/
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:41:00 -
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I'd like an official statistic on empire wars, but not all the time.
Then we don't have to read threads like:
Corp A: "We killed 100 ships and lost one"
Corp B: "ROFL, No way, we killed way more of you!"
Corp A: "n0oB! We wiped the floor with you guys!!1one"
etc...
etc....
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:41:00 -
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As a comparative tool to see how deadly one corp is without relying upon an e-peen increasing killboard of theirs, yes. It would be nice to see, depending on its accessibility, to see what the other corp favored in terms of ships, strategies, locations, et cetera.
As for this causing a K/D ratio race, there is already one occuring on the larger killboards, this would increase it though. Idk, proceed with caution might be my sound bite?
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Eralus
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:47:00 -
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I think a kill board could be a good thing, *IF* done right. Give each player a PvP ranking, only don't have it based on number of kills, have it based on quality of kills.
For starters, every character gets a ranking equal to their number of skill points. If you destroy a player's ship, your ranking goes up. If you get destroyed, your ranking goes down.
The higher the ranking of the player you destroy, the more your ranking goes up - destroy a newbie and your raning barely budges. Destroy the ship of the guy with the highest ranking in the game and your ranking doubles.
On the same token, if you get destroyed by a player with a ranking much higher than yours, your ranking doesn't change much, while if you get destroyed by a player with a ranking at or near your own your ranking goes down much more.
This is basically like how chess players are ranked.
Lastly, possibly make only kills in 0.0 count.
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Megri
Muppet Fuggers
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Megri on 19/07/2006 19:50:29
Isn't e-peen governed by the Bounty?? lol
If so, please dont judge my size based on that... I swear I just had a cold shower!
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Rasitiln
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:50:00 -
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sounds like wow and their honor system of what ever its called 
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Eralus
For starters, every character gets a ranking equal to their number of skill points. If you destroy a player's ship, your ranking goes up. If you get destroyed, your ranking goes down.
The higher the ranking of the player you destroy, the more your ranking goes up - destroy a newbie and your raning barely budges.
So me and my twenty-eight million skill points are tootling through 0.0 in an interceptor, I get caught in a warp bubble, three big battleships target-paint me, and one newbie alliance-member with 380,000 SPs shoots me down.
I don't think that's gonna work. 
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:57:00 -
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No.
Eve is not counterstrike in space.
If you want to flash off how leet you are, go play CS or WoW.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
No.
Eve is not counterstrike in space.
If you want to flash off how leet you are, go play CS or WoW.
You know, I was planning a 2 line reply. You got exactly those two lines, and then added a "Go play WoW" too. I am truly in awe of your leet forum skillz 
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Johsia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:59:00 -
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I honestly think they should have corporation killboards accessible by only those in the corporation that would monitor all member kills and deaths. Killboards are more than just numbers letting people know who has the best kill/death ratio, they also help tacticaly with where enemies are located and where pirates are usualy basing their operations.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 19/07/2006 20:03:00
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Verone
No.
Eve is not counterstrike in space.
If you want to flash off how leet you are, go play CS or WoW.
You know, I was planning a 2 line reply. You got exactly those two lines, and then added a "Go play WoW" too. I am truly in awe of your leet forum skillz
Get a room.
Verone, is Veto still recruiting?
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 19/07/2006 20:03:00
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Verone
No.
Eve is not counterstrike in space.
If you want to flash off how leet you are, go play CS or WoW.
You know, I was planning a 2 line reply. You got exactly those two lines, and then added a "Go play WoW" too. I am truly in awe of your leet forum skillz
Get a room.
Verone, is Veto still recruiting?
Click under my sig
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:22:00 -
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Killboards eh ?
I think thats a shockingly bad idea if its just like a regular killboard but officially wired in.
If, however, under the 'wars' screen in corp you got a rundown of kills and losses, that would be useful. It would allow corps and alliances to see at a glance how today has been and see where battlefields have been. That would only be visable to the two opponents, not to people at large. Thats a tool and has little to do with epeen stroking.
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Raider Zero
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon
Quick question...
Is Eve going to get an integrated killboard/player ranking system in Kali? or at some point in the future? Does anyone have any info on this?
Thanks!
It does for some-the bounty system. Otherwise no. The system I'd want would be rather than ranking players, to have a general median guage for stuff e.g. "Today the average EvE citizen has: XXXXX million isk, XX ships, XX SP, and XX blah blah."
I'd like to compare to something, but completely agree that killboards and other e-cialis stuff are damaging to gameplay.
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Kehmor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 08:32:00 -
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There are no reliable figures in real war, and there is plenty of propaganda. Why should eve be different?
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.21 09:01:00 -
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Yes, but it only registers them for the corp/alliance and not for the individual user.
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
There are no reliable figures in real war, and there is plenty of propaganda. Why should eve be different?
Well, there is very little on the forums that can even qualify as propaganda. Most of it is on the level of 6year-olds arguing over who's daddy is stronger.
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Jane Sylari
Under the Wings of Fury
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.07.21 17:41:00 -
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Pfff, people would kill every target they could get just to gain a few more points to reach that new "rank", no thanks.
There are other games for that.....
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Neesa Corrinne
Ordo Adeptus Astartes
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.07.21 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Neesa Corrinne on 21/07/2006 19:01:16
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Yes, but it only registers them for the corp/alliance
and not for the individual user.
This is the only way to incorporate official killboards into the game IMO. This will keep epeening to a minimum, but I have a sudden fear that a lot of one man corps would spring up suddenly.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.21 19:11:00 -
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Argh, but then we won't have anything good to read when Alliance A is accusing Alliance B of "cooking the books" with regards to their killboard and the flamefest that will insue. My job is boring enough as it is. 
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.07.21 19:21:00 -
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CCP have said that they don't want to implement a kill board for various reasons.
They don't want to increase random gankin for scorepoints, and also some people simply don't want to have their kills posted as that helps people track other people. People who might not want to be tracked...
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Posted - 2006.07.21 19:23:00 -
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Hopefully not, However if you want to know who are the most deadliest killers ingame goto E-R killboard and click stats and then you can see Legends
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Megadon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 19:25:00 -
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Yeah it would have to be a departure for the normal type of killboard for it to be effective.
But I wish there was some AUTOMATED way that CCP would provide corporations and/or alliances to track things because even with the best intentions, its almost impossible to keep an accurate tally of things the way things currently are.
It would seem to me that CCP could provide a mechanism to track kills/deaths on a corporate level or alliance level WITHOUT necessarily providing a global ranking function. It seems that global ranking is what most ppl don't like.
Why cant they provide a mechanism that would allow you as a corporation the OPTION of tracking this type of thing. That way, if youre an industry corp and youre just not intersted, you dont have to elect to track this kind of thing and it is not available for anyone to see. If on the other hand, you are pvp corp and would like to actually accurately track this, you could elect to do so.
Again, the results wouldnt have to be available for all to see, but have it be just an internal thing without the global ranking so corps have an accurate way to track this. I think a lot of ppl would like that kind of option.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
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Posted - 2006.07.21 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: hydraSlav on 21/07/2006 20:24:20
I agree with people that integrated killboard will kill the game.
However, what we need is a killmail verifier integrated into the game, that will verify that the kill really did happen. The killmails are so easy to fake, and so many people fake killmails, especially for the purpose of forum propaganda.
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Tristan Acoma
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav
Edited by: hydraSlav on 21/07/2006 20:24:20
I agree with people that integrated killboard will kill the game.
However, what we need is a killmail verifier integrated into the game, that will verify that the kill really did happen. The killmails are so easy to fake, and so many people fake killmails, especially for the purpose of forum propaganda.
/signed. Ranking bad, verifiable info good. Keep in mind that most people who -care- about KB rankings already use a non-eve killboard
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.21 21:01:00 -
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I'd rather them not integrate it into the game but if t20 wanted a raise he could make it part of the website if they ever decide to add a few more servers to the website cluster.
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