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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:28:00 -
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I can't really think of a reason how this could have gone so wrong again, after the professional management of the situation last time. I mean CCP Dolan made an official thread HALF A YEAR after the incident and silence from CCP, with the promise that the feedback on this thread would be used to form a policy about how CCP handles their relationship with third-party sites. Surely this policy exists by now after HALF A YEAR of feedback collection and processing?! Doesn't it?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 13:29:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
Again, I understand it just fine, and it's no different from any other witch hunt I've been privy to. Fallacious garbage? Can you say "irony"? Because you just described the entire thread. Which I did read and assess correctly, and that includes examining Somer's Blink Credit page.
This is "Grr Somer". That's all this is.
This has nothing to do with witch hunt or because we hate SOMER, maybe some do, but I certainly don't. I have made a lot of ISK with them (and I don't mean because I was lucky). They basically financed my ganking when I started before it became self sustaining (I am happy to give you details if you don't believe me). So I have no problem with their gambling service.
They always sold PLEX and made money from it, that is not the problem. The problem starts when they give you extra ISK when you purchase the PLEX from them and not from somewhere else. And that's what they do now, they try to obfuscate it a bit with this PLEX credit, but in the end it is pretty straight forward "if you buy PLEX from us you get additional ISK".
They claim this is CCP sanctioned, we will see about that. CCP Falcons response indicated that they are as surprised about this new service as everyone else.
If this is indeed CCP sanctioned then the question is can all the other PLEX resellers run a similar program and basically try to improve their PLEX sales by offering even more additional ISK for the buyer. It is not really hard to see that some dude with trillions of ISK would jump on this and basically sell his ISK stash for better PLEX sales and therefor more RL $ from the cut you get when you sell a PLEX.
If this is not CCP sanctioned then SOMER should face the consequences everyone else would face if they sell ISK for $ because in the end that is what it all boils down too. Of course this is CCPs decision and they already demonstrated a year ago that SOMER is basically a friend of the sheriff. Let's hope they have grown a bit (ahahahaha, yeah, that's not even funny).
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:34:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Before this thread I didn't feel like I really had an opinion on RMT. But now I'm starting to think maybe I'm a big fan.
Now that that's out of the way, can someone kindly explain to me why it's so awful?
There is RMT like PLEX and there is EULA breaking RMT like purchasing ISK for $.
The first one isn't really a problem, because the ISK can only be traded for game time. You basically pay some guy his game time and he uses part of it to work for you (by generating ISK). Of course there is the ingame market in between. One can make an argument that this is p2w, but that is just for people who think ISK matters..
The second one tries to establish a real world business by generating revenue out of game money. This may not be a big difference for you as buyer of ISK, but on the other end it changes from a game to a real world industry. Which is probably irrelevant because some people already play this game like a job anyway.
Also CCP makes ISK from the first kind of transaction but not from the second one, so it is in their interest to ban the second kind from their game. Because it's custom on GD to not give a **** or care at all but post anyway we can simply ignore that.
But then there is always that question about how can I sell off my own trillion ISK stash and make $ out of it and if SOMER is alowed to do it, may I do it as well with better conditions so I get all the money and not SOMER? Maybe we can ignore that too because like many others said we are just jealous and SOMER should be privileged by CCP.
So in the end its CCP's decision if they want to treat everyone equally and ban the SOMER guys for a violation of the EULA or if they make exceptions for their friends like they did before and which was not received well by the community.
I think they should have banned this guys a year ago, but that is just my opinion.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:38:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:So much stupid in this thread. If it really bothers you then delete your Somer bookmark and go to therapy for your gambling addiction. The only reason Somer is able to do this in the first place is because of all you people that want to get something for nothing. Stop using the site, FFS! Problem solved. Mr Epeen 
It this thread bothers you then don't read it.
Stop commenting on this thread, FFS! Problem solved.
Ima Wreckyou 
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:53:00 -
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Syn Shi wrote:[Does the letters R v B give you nightmares?
That's a bit off topic, but I am just looking for a legit was to make real $ from the billions they payed us. Please cry about this in the other thread, thx
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:01:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Where do you suppose they got the trillions of liquid ISK to overpay for PLEXes with? If it weren't for the pathetic dweebs that blow all their ISKies on rigged lottos, none of this would be happening now. Somer as a business would not exist. Mr Epeen
You don't need a lot of ISK if the ratio is 19$/1bil ISK as mentioned elsewhere on this thread. The issue has nothing to do with SOMERS lottery. There are a lot of other players ingame who sit on heaps of ISK and they would gladly jump on such a ISK->$ mechanism if this was legit.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:15:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Shouldn't you be learning how to shoot things that shoot back or something? Or have you bailed out of the AT completely?
Out of arguments? Are you mad? Was there an Antimatter incident involved? Just remember the CODE always wins and please cry about this topic in the relevant thread, you don't have to derail this one with your tears. thx
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:35:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people try to draw parallels between a sick psychopath and a clever businessman. Still, it's scrapping the bottom of the desperation barrel.
Yes, Ero was a clever businessman and a talented show master. But it is a bit far fetched to call the SOMER guys psychopaths
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