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Carpallia Ingot	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:34:00 - [1] here
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:36:00 - [2] Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 20/07/2006 10:36:03 O RLY ! .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
R3dSh1ft Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:39:00 - [3] Spying is part of war unfortunately, don't expect ur enemy to play fair just cos you do.. IBTL tho ______________________________________
Abyss Jack Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:43:00 - [4] your 2sec of fame ----------------------------------
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh O RLY !
DDaisy VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:15:00 - [6] Originally by: R3dSh1ft Spying is part of war unfortunately, don't expect ur enemy to play fair just cos you do.. IBTL tho Spying is indeed part of this game but politics aside, I truly feel recording people without their knowledge is completely inappropriate and sailing very close to the borders of illegality. I would also like to direct the op to Eve-Online's EULA Section 7- Paragraph A - Subsection 2: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played." This may not be a exact example of what is meant by this statement but once again it comes very very close. This recording is an attempt to directly influence the politics of the game and therefore "change how the game is played" Recording people without their prior knowledge is bad mmkay? FYI - I am not involved in this recording in any way but a similar misunderstanding recently, really changed my view on how some people play this game and perhaps take it a little bit too seriously to the point where they might actually be committing an offense.
Emno Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:20:00 - [7] Edited by: Emno on 20/07/2006 11:21:23 Originally by: DDaisy I would also like to direct the op to Eve-Online's EULA Section 7- Paragraph A - Subsection 2: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played." This may not be a exact example of what is meant by this statement but once again it comes very very close. This recording is an attempt to directly influence the politics of the game and therefore "change how the game is played". no spying is fine my the rules of eve and using third party software (internet browser to access eve-o forums) to influence politics has and always will be part of eve anyway your reading into that rule far far to much ;/
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:23:00 - [8] In the UK this is illegal as far as I know, cmon guys this is a computer game, not real life at the UN.
DDaisy VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:24:00 - [9] The thrid party software I refer to is not the browser it is the use of teamspeak to record others and using that recording to influence the in game politics. Game/chat logs is a different matter - that is in-game. Teamspeak is not.
Emno Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:32:00 - [10] Originally by: DDaisy The thrid party software I refer to is not the browser it is the use of teamspeak to record others and using that recording to influence the in game politics. Game/chat logs is a different matter - that is in-game. Teamspeak is not. a internet browser is not in-game like i said that rule doesn't really mean that its more to do with in-game exploiting ;/
J909 KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:32:00 - [11] Edited by: J909 on 20/07/2006 11:33:22 But its also really funny when someone's drunken ramblings/singing is recorded and i dare say used as bribary =p I know cos they recorded me =) Drunk on TS FTW *Gentle reminder* This is only a game ----------------------------------------------- Cash from Chaos
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:33:00 - [12] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 20/07/2006 11:33:25 All depends on where the TS server is situated (which country, because those laws apply). Also, when someone is recording it shows up pretty big in TS. The EULA part you're refering to has nothing to do with this, that is about modding the actual game files on your hard drive. EDIT: Why am I bumping an alt thread again? ------------------------------------------ A lapdance is always better when the exotic dancer is crying..
SkaffenAmtiskaw Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:36:00 - [13] Originally by: DDaisy The thrid party software I refer to is not the browser it is the use of teamspeak to record others and using that recording to influence the in game politics. Game/chat logs is a different matter - that is in-game. Teamspeak is not. So you and your corp doesn't use TS or other voice comms to coordinate fleets etc? ______ 'A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc.' - Wrangler on m0o corp.
Box Fresh	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:39:00 - [14] Everyone save this clip, incase it gets taken down. So D2 only got involved when sparta naped goons? I dont think so. Sounds like sparta had no choice but to nap the goons, given the position they were put in, these boards have been full of people accusing sparta and nfc of being turncoats when infact sparta showed true loyalty to their freinds nfc even in the face of the evil empire. This whole thing stinks, the thing is, iron, core and fla were a strong force alone. These methods have tainted your victory and also your reputation. To the whole eve community.....trust these people at your own risk!
DDaisy VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:48:00 - [15] Originally by: SkaffenAmtiskaw Originally by: DDaisy The thrid party software I refer to is not the browser it is the use of teamspeak to record others and using that recording to influence the in game politics. Game/chat logs is a different matter - that is in-game. Teamspeak is not. So you and your corp doesn't use TS or other voice comms to coordinate fleets etc? I take your point on what you are implying here Skaffen, but the game does not have an in-built voice comms and I think my post is clearly referring to how a program is used to influence the game and the very questionable ethics behind said use. You can twist my words all you like but I think the post made it pretty clear that using TS in the way that it has been used here, is highly inappropriate. Clearly we view privacy on differet levels and also perhaps how we play this "GAME". Perhaps any of the CCP staff would be able to comment on how they feel their EULA should be interpreted and managed. At the very least the moderators might like to look into whether threads of this nature should be started. Like I have already said post in-game logs, etc to your heart's content as that originates from in-game.
Esaam DeVries Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Hans Roaming In the UK this is illegal as far as I know, cmon guys this is a computer game, not real life at the UN. I think it's illegal in most of the countries and would be regarded as a invasion of private life or close to what you could face for wiretapping. In France this falls into the "private correspondance" law and it ain't a permissive law. -- TRUST Shop : from T2 to Captital ship(yard)s. Shop smart, shop T-shop.
Avon Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Hans Roaming In the UK this is illegal as far as I know, cmon guys this is a computer game, not real life at the UN. Actually I think it is fine under UK law Hans, so long as the TS server has a password. On a public unrestricted server it would indeed be illegal to record anyone without their prior consent. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:01:00 - [18] Edited by: Calenth on 20/07/2006 12:03:31 Originally by: Box Fresh Everyone save this clip, incase it gets taken down. So D2 only got involved when sparta naped goons? I dont think so. Sounds like sparta had no choice but to nap the goons, given the position they were put in, these boards have been full of people accusing sparta and nfc of being turncoats when infact sparta showed true loyalty to their freinds nfc even in the face of the evil empire. This whole thing stinks, the thing is, iron, core and fla were a strong force alone. These methods have tainted your victory and also your reputation. To the whole eve community.....trust these people at your own risk! Oh, I'm sure the D2 contingent will show up soon enough and post lots of stuff about how anyone not involved doesn't understand the "true context" or the "total picture" or the "extensive political history" or the "handwaving" and d2 was really handing out puppies for everyone and Deklein was just a big party.

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