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De'Veldrin
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:25:00 -
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I would just like to add my appreciation to the general tumult of the thread.
CCP FALCON best FALCON. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:42:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Hey, look at the quote of mine that he embedded and then threatened me with a banhammer for. Not one shred of a rumour, but that is what the threat is for. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Dinsdale, you are, as my daughter would say, a drama llama, and everyone knows it. Your "nullsec RMT cartel controls CCP" rumor mongering is exactly why Falcon took that line with you, and, to be fair, I wish they'd banned you from the forums a long time ago. You do nothing but sow discord on the forums, all in the name of (your version of) "the truth".
I don't blame Falcon for taking that stance with you, and if it were me, it would have been a much harsher one, to be quite ******* honest about it.
On the subject of Falcon's latest response: I, like many others, look forward to the resolution of this matter, and I greatly appreciate Falcon, and the CSM, and the others who are giving up their time and energy to resolve this situation.
But CCP needs to take note - Markee and Somer have already gotten a pass on these shenanigans once. if they get another pass, you will severely and forever damage your already tenuous credibility with your player base - we haven't forgotten monoclegate and "Greed is Good". CCP's mishandling of things of this nature is very nearly legendary.
Nothing could do more harm to Eve's long term survival than allowing RMT, except for showing favoritism to one particular group of RMTers and banning the rest of them. If they get a second pass, I actually don't see another mass Jita shooting - I see a mass of people throwing up their hands in disgust and quietly voting with their wallets to the detriment of the game as a whole.
Take the right step: Do unto Somer as you have done unto so many others, and hold him accountable for the shenanigans he has created. Also, I would chuck Markee off your allowed resellers list. As they say, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. Don't let it become a pattern. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:56:00 -
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Mai Maid wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:BTW, why is it that if John Q. Player is suspected of anything, the account is banned pending an investigation. However this is the second time Somer has done this, yet no action has been taken? This came to light late on Sunday evening. Investigating an individual can take a day or so, investigating this case given the sheer number of transactions that have occurred, and tracking exactly where everything is going, takes considerably more time. We're actively working on it. That reply makes no sense, it doesn't answer the question at all? If this gets the OK, it might be a good time to cash out though.
It does, though the answer isn't clear. Basically, the ban the account temporarily to stop the assets from moving around so they're easier to find if the transactions need to be reversed - it limits the amount of work the devs have to do on the back end.
In this instance, there's no real point to it, since the amount of work is exponentially larger due to the number of transaction already involved. I don't necessarily agree with the logic, but I do understand what Falcon is saying. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:02:00 -
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Sketchy Bob wrote:
Is this the kind of attitude we can expect from the community manager going forward? Shouldn't the community manager at least to pretend to care about what the community thinks?
And I love how you opted to answer this among all the outstanding questions in this thread. You clearly have the communities best in mind.
Edit: The back pating post would be ok and well deserved. If there was any actual progress.
I'm not going to use a lot of flowery words to respond to this. I will say only this:
If you truly believe that Falcon isn't doing his best to represent us, then unsub and GTFO. You're being a jackass for no reason and attacking someone who is bending over backwards to try and get this sorted out. Stop being a douche canoe. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:28:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Tippia wrote:NFain wrote: However I would like to point out that it was made very clear roughly a year ago when this same very thing was ruled to stop. Definitely, which is why the current situation is so baffling. Unless Somer is kicking back some profits within CCP...?
NO! BAD! DO NOT DRINK THE DINSDALE KOOL-AID! De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:35:00 -
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Sketchy Bob wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Sketchy Bob wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:If you don't like it, don't read it. Simple. Is this the kind of attitude we can expect from the community manager going forward? Shouldn't the community manager at least to pretend to care about what the community thinks? And I love how you opted to answer this among all the outstanding questions in this thread. You clearly have the communities best in mind. Edit: The back pating post would be ok and well deserved. If there was any actual progress. I hope so - it would be a return to days of old when the Dev's told the whiny brats off every once in awhile. I salute our non-**** taking overlords. Oh yes, customers should just shut up and pay their salary. Thank you for your input.
You do have another option. By all means, feel free to exercise it. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:42:00 -
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NFain wrote:I'm still slightly concerned on what's actually being investigated and what there is to investigate. From my understanding 1) legality of the issue via EULA/TOS 2) correspondence between CCP VP & Somer However wasn't this issue handled a little more than a year ago? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290929Or will these answers come in due time? It was.
And then this happened making it the second time Some and Markee have been dragged over the coals for this kind of thing. Now, were this any other player, they wouldn't have gotten a second chance - bans would have been distributed and that would have been the end of the matter.
If they get a third chance, things are going to turn ugly very quickly. How ugly will be largely determined by why they got that third chance. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:56:00 -
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Fallon Talwyn wrote:Goons, goons, goons, goons.....anyone else see a trend?
No, but I was always terrible at pattern recognition - it's what's kept me out of Mensa every time I apply. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:38:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Rroff wrote:Given the lengths some have gone to to stir up anti-blink sentiment to say there has been no witch hunt at all is hardly accurate. Quoting the proposal and communications that Somer posted. Such nefarious lengths. Much hunt. Many witches.
Such wow.
Well, all I can say is that what has basically happened is that Somer has flipped the table, tossed his toys out of the pram, taken his ball, and gone home. Because he got taken to task for trying to pull a fast one on CCP. As much as I liked the occasional Blink game, there's no room for RMT in this game.
On the other hand, Dinsdale should be pleased. one less RMT cartel to control CCP. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:De'Veldrin wrote: On the other hand, Dinsdale should be pleased. one less RMT cartel to control CCP.
Dinsdale is pissed. CCP Falcon slapped him down earlier, twice, for being the anklebiting sack of crap he is. He's pushed his luck pretty well thus far, but I think they've reached the end of their patience.
Bout time. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
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De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:53:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:Lady Naween wrote:De'Veldrin wrote: On the other hand, Dinsdale should be pleased. one less RMT cartel to control CCP.
pretty sure he will claim that the 0.0 overlords pressured CCP to do this for some nefarious reason the mittani sends his regards
Actually could you pass long a message. I've got a proposal I want to get his opinion on. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:58:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Actually could you pass long a message. I've got a proposal I want to get his opinion on. 50 million ISK and I will make sure he gets it
De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:06:00 -
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Beta Maoye wrote:I haven't used Somer Blink. The first time I heard of them was their donating 4,000 PLEX to help typhoon victims last year. I think they are not bad guys. Perhaps the reason they get hammered is that they are too successful in their business.
CCP - posts like this are the reason we need a downvote option on these forums. When people say stupid things, we should have the option of letting them know that what they just said was dumb. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:19:00 -
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yo Outamon wrote:Erm what about all the people who won't get a potential return on all the isk invested to gain 100s of tokens for there mini bonks and blasts is that part of the sensible closure??? Could have waited till the end of the party now people invested tones for nothing ...
If a gambling establishment is your investment plan, you, my friend, have some serious financial issues that you need to seek professional help with.
Also, as with all investments, they are not garunteed to increase with time. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:14:00 -
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Suzie Swindle wrote:I am surprised at how many dont seem to understand the difference between CCP letting groups pay people in isk for content to place on their site while making real life money from adds, and that of how somers was using its affiliate status to perform a kickback type deal....
I am willing to bet that a substantial number of these people are not ignorant at all. I'm curious to know what they're actual motivations are, however.
De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
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