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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 05:50:00 -
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I'm a noob, finally moved up to cruisers, and decided best cruiser atm for pvp for me would be stabber, anti-frig (tackling in frigs).
So i'm wondering what some good anti-frigate set ups would be?
Would also appreciate pve setups too though 
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Optaon
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Posted - 2006.07.23 05:56:00 -
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Could go with:
Highs: 4 280mm arty's, or 180mm autocannons, 2 medium nos/ standard/ assualt launchers
Mids: 10mn mwd, web scrambler,
lows: 800mm plate, small repper, gyostab/ or small repper/ 2x gyrostabs
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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 06:39:00 -
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aren't artillery pieces no good v frigs though because of frigs speed and arty tracking speed?
i dono, maybe im wrong or im missing something, i am a noob 
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Zidrin Gizi
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:12:00 -
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280s are small, frigate sized weapons. Their sig is good against frigs. However, for such goal (killing frigs) I would recommend a Dual 180s + small nuetralizer setup, MWD / 20km warp disruptor / web.
Even 220s will do if you have the skills for tracking good.
Stabber gets a bonus for medium weapons, use them.
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Talon Calais
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.23 08:23:00 -
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4x Dual 180mm Autocannon / 220s track pretty good too. w/EMP rounds
1x Assault Launcher / Rocket Launcher w/Your flavor of missile
1x MWD
1x Webber
1x 7.5km Scram
1x 400/800mm Plate (I haven't looked at PG/CPU at this point, just doing what I think will fit.)
1x Med / Small Armor Rep II
With my alts crappy skills I was doing 1.1km/s with a named AB, I have no clue how insanely fast thing this is with a MWD and better skills.
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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:29:00 -
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alright so for it sounds good.
still kinda confused though, as to 220s vs 180 duals.
also couldn't i install tracking enhancing pieces?
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Kard Fater
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:12:00 -
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D180s are easier to fit than 220s, and a web (or dualweb against closerange interceptors) is more useful than even two tracking enhancer. Your DPS can be further increased by a Gyrostabilizer, I recommend to use one.
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Eximius Josari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:26:00 -
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Tracking on your guns wont matter at all, all you have to do is a thing called maneuvering. So go with 425s (3x Gyros) if you want to pop em fast.
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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:41:00 -
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what do you mean by maneuvering?
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Gabby05
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.23 11:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Junior Dweight
what do you mean by maneuvering?
Staying at range 7km is quite a good distance, even when webbed frigates can be quite hard to hit so the further away you are the less your turrets have to track.
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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 12:19:00 -
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also what to do with the 5m3 of drone space? light ecm drone maybe?
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Junior Dweight
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Posted - 2006.07.23 15:29:00 -
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Ok now i've run into a dilemma...
how important is cap sapping? because i could fit either a med nos or a med neut, and still fit an assault launcher and all 4 turrets (180) if i fit a reaction control unit... of course that means i have to sacrifice either armor plating or armor rep (neither i wanna do) or gyrostabs (rather nto ditch either)... but then i'd get to have a missile, 4x AC AND nos/neut
if i keep all my low slots as originally planned (amor rep + armor plate + gyrostab), then i can actually 220s instead of d180s and fit either 1x med neut or 2x small neut (or nos), or not fit any cap killers at all and attach 2x assault launchers. alternatively i could attach 1x med nos and 1x standard launcher, and fit 180s.
so the imortant questions are... how big a deal is 180s vs 220s? and how important is cap killing? and how important is the gyro stab vs the advantage i get from RC?
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Gabby05
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Junior Dweight
Ok now i've run into a dilemma...
how important is cap sapping? because i could fit either a med nos or a med neut, and still fit an assault launcher and all 4 turrets (180) if i fit a reaction control unit... of course that means i have to sacrifice either armor plating or armor rep (neither i wanna do) or gyrostabs (rather nto ditch either)... but then i'd get to have a missile, 4x AC AND nos/neut
if i keep all my low slots as originally planned (amor rep + armor plate + gyrostab), then i can actually 220s instead of d180s and fit either 1x med neut or 2x small neut (or nos), or not fit any cap killers at all and attach 2x assault launchers. alternatively i could attach 1x med nos and 1x standard launcher, and fit 180s.
so the imortant questions are... how big a deal is 180s vs 220s? and how important is cap killing? and how important is the gyro stab vs the advantage i get from RC?
Iv flown the stabber and recently tested it out a few times, you can save on pg by using a damage control it doubles your hull and is only slightly less hp than a 800mm carb plate and alot better than a 400mm without the speed or agility penalty.
If your only going after frigates either t1/t2 you would need to dedicate your lowslots to speed mods to catch inties or mwding t1 frigates. Stabber just doesnt have the pg or the low slots for a decent tank and doesnt need one to kill anything smaller than a cruiser. If you want to kill anything else just fit an mwd to a rupture, your have loads of pg with a stronger punch to it.
Stabber needs a change, either more pg or a change in slot layout.
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