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Cz Ire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 01:30:00 -
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At eve time 22:22 on 108.07.21, the Namtz'aar k'in alliance was approached by a CONCORD official requesting our aid.
A CONCORD official asked us to intercept a pair of escaped convicts that were attempting to escape through molden heath into lawless space. NMTZ was informed that they were hardened repeat offenders with extremly dangerous vessels, both Threat Level 5.
NMTZ combat pilots scrambled, while our intelligence division tracked down their location. At 23:07 we had identified the vessel as nothing less than a pair of CONCORD Battleships. The CONCORD official was shocked to hear of this, and immediatly set some subordinates to investigating how this was possible.
In light of the new information, the CONCORD official gave us the option of pulling out, faceing such opponents. Unanimously, the NMTZ strike force refused to give up, and the hunt continued.
At about 23:15, NMTZ pilots engaged the CONCORD battleships, and were victorious in destroying the vessels and capturing the pods of the convicts, suffering only minor ship loss. However, both of the criminals opted to self-destruct their pods, stateing they would rather die than return to a CONCORD holding cell.
Our CONCORD contact after the operation, informed us that the escapees had broken into a collector's hanger and aquired the vessels that way.
Immediatly following these events, our CONCORD contact informed us of another pair of convicts trying to make a break into angel cartel space with stolen goods. These escapees were captured alive with no losses, and detained until CONCORD was able to come and retreive their pods. One of the pilots had a Bustard filled with tech 2 ammo and equipment, that they attempted to use to bribe their way out of NMTZ custody with. Reportedly, this equipment was meant to go to the Angel Cartel, where the escaped outlaws were going to attempt to use it to buy their way into Angel ranks.
This was not the first time NMTZ has acted upon official request to apprehend criminals.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the viscous rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.24 01:36:00 -
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 This is a real shock but after all CONCORD consists of humans too, and we are not perfect. But still this shows some loss of control from CONCORD and is a bit strange they could not take care of this by themselves. I wonder what else we will see in the future
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.24 02:49:00 -
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Sounds like Concord is beginning to crumble.
How do you just "lose" not one, but two battleships?
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Murukan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar Sounds like Concord is beginning to crumble.
How do you just "lose" not one, but two battleships?
Try reading a little more carefully and you would have your answer and realize it wasn't concord that the convicts aquired the bships from.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.24 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Karl Mattar Sounds like Concord is beginning to crumble.
How do you just "lose" not one, but two battleships?
Try reading a little more carefully and you would have your answer and realize it wasn't concord that the convicts aquired the bships from.
However, if they were CONCORD ships, then they were taken from CONCORD by someone.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 04:35:00 -
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Every CONCORD ship destroyed is one less tool used to violate State sovereignty on a daily basis.
Good job, NMTZ. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.24 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Karl Mattar Sounds like Concord is beginning to crumble.
How do you just "lose" not one, but two battleships?
Try reading a little more carefully and you would have your answer and realize it wasn't concord that the convicts aquired the bships from.
You are right, Murukan. I feel so much better now that I know Concord is just handing out battleships to "collectors" in the cluster. 
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Cz Ire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 05:00:00 -
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Ship theft is not something unheard of. Many major alliances have suffered from this in the past, and in recent empire affairs, look at Karishal's theft from the Republic.
While I do not know who this collector is, or how they came into possession of such vessels, Im certain that CONCORD is hard at work insuring that such an event wont happen again.
While we at NMTZ do not condone attacks against CONCORD, we definatly would rather see those ships destroyed than in the hands of convicts. Such a vessel could be a true terror in the hands of criminals.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Yarod Cool
Team JAVELIN
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Posted - 2006.07.24 05:12:00 -
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Sounds like NMTZ did good work... I'd like to offer Team JAVELIN's appreciation.
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Murukan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Karl Mattar Sounds like Concord is beginning to crumble.
How do you just "lose" not one, but two battleships?
Try reading a little more carefully and you would have your answer and realize it wasn't concord that the convicts aquired the bships from.
You are right, Murukan. I feel so much better now that I know Concord is just handing out battleships to "collectors" in the cluster. 
Well that is another issue entirely 
In rust we trust!!! |

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:20:00 -
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It is amusing that the Namtz'aar k'in is capable of prividing more effective support to the corrupt officials of CONCORD than they are to their own crumbling republic.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:39:00 -
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Two less Renegade Classes to shoot at us.
Thanks guys. 
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:57:00 -
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Quote: It is amusing that the Namtz'aar k'in is capable of prividing more effective support to the corrupt officials of CONCORD than they are to their own crumbling republic.
It is less amusing to notice that a pilot in position of power among the Amarr is not able to realize this might not be the only thing NMTZ has been working on lately. Such lack of cognitive facilities might not be surprising from one so thoroughly corrupted by the Amarr society, but it is alarming nevertheless.
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:45:00 -
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Was Namtz'aar k'in the only entity contacted with information related to these criminals?
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Cz Ire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Was Namtz'aar k'in the only entity contacted with information related to these criminals?
As far as I am aware, correct. We were not notified of any other parties that CONCORD might have contacted, nor did we run into any other forces in the area other than a couple random pirates, and a few neutral pilot observers, some of which we warned off due to security reasons without incident.
I am unaware, of course, if, when, and who else CONCORD may use in other operations.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:50:00 -
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Quote: It is less amusing to notice that a pilot in position of power among the Amarr is not able to realize this might not be the only thing NMTZ has been working on lately.
I find it interesting that you seem to read "not helping the republic at all" into a comment that merely pointed out that you have had more effective results helping concord than you have towards your own republic's problems.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:08:00 -
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Quote: had more effective results helping concord than you have towards your own republic's problems
You demonstrate a total lack of understanding about our operations.
Which is, of course, as it should be.
Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
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Cz Ire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:07:00 -
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Amarrian, I am going to ask you to limit your attempts at thread hijacking to those threads that are actually somehow related to the amarr/matari tensions, or your mistaken veiws on the Republic and our other operations. Or for that matter, even remotely involving you amarrians. This was purly a Matari/CONCORD affair.
This is a issue that concerns virtually every pilot out there, and is presented as such, for those who are concerned about *this* issue to discuss. Dont use it as an opprotunity to start flaming our organization, especially with your apparent lack of (military) intelligence.
I apologize for this thread getting off topic to the rest of the galaxy. I will continue to monitor this thread and respond to any *valid* questions or concerns as I am able to.
- Cz Ire
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Vera Nosfyu on 25/07/2006 00:56:18 I am glad to see Namtz'aar k'in are physically prepared to combat the slaver threat, even if you are not ready mentally. Gaven is simply concerned that when you realize the error in your ways the Amarr empire will have a powerful force to contend with. Good work, bretheren, I look forward to the day when you join us on the battlefield. -----------------------------------------------------------
"Violence solves all problems, no man, no problem." --Josef Stalin |

Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:25:00 -
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Are you familiar with the term "delusions of grandeur", Ms. Nosferatu?
Or maybe just plain "delusional"... ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Are you familiar with the term "delusions of grandeur", Ms. Nosferatu?
Or maybe just plain "delusional"...
I don't see Lady Astarte posting on this thread, I think you're the one with delusions, Nik. Feel free to stop by some time and I'll check you out, I was a surgeon for the RMS before I was kicked out for reasons completely unrelated to those medical malpractice lawsuits. I swear. -----------------------------------------------------------
"Violence solves all problems, no man, no problem." --Josef Stalin |

Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yarod Cool Sounds like NMTZ did good work... I'd like to offer Team JAVELIN's appreciation.
Thanks a lot.
Let me tell you, getting shot into armor by a CONCORD battleship and keeping the ship is a tale I'm going to tell my grandchildren.
Smagd --
When I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. |

Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Two less Renegade Classes to shoot at us.
Thanks guys. 
You know, I'll always share a drink with you. Been trying to find you stationside down in Covryn for a while in fact, but man, is that an unhealthy place.
Anyway, given the, shall we say, uncommonly provocative habits of you and your merry gang, I'd like to put it on the record that in space, *we* would still gladly shoot at you - never mind CONCORD.
Nothing personal, I'm sure you understand. We're all professionals after all.
Fly far,
Smagd --
When I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. |

Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.25 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd
You know, I'll always share a drink with you. Been trying to find you stationside down in Covryn for a while in fact, but man, is that an unhealthy place.
Anyway, given the, shall we say, uncommonly provocative habits of you and your merry gang, I'd like to put it on the record that in space, *we* would still gladly shoot at you - never mind CONCORD.
Nothing personal, I'm sure you understand. We're all professionals after all.
Fly far,
Smagd
Exactly as it should be old friend.
I hope to trade munitions and paint with you at some point in the future 
VETO RECRUITMENT |

Rocius
Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.07.27 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vera Nosfyu Edited by: Vera Nosfyu on 25/07/2006 00:56:18 I am glad to see Namtz'aar k'in are physically prepared to combat the slaver threat, even if you are not ready mentally. Gaven is simply concerned that when you realize the error in your ways the Amarr empire will have a powerful force to contend with. Good work, bretheren, I look forward to the day when you join us on the battlefield.
Yes, Namtz'aar k'in is indeed prepared to combat any threat the Republic faces. What amuses me greatly is that you, of all people even attempt to question anyones mental state. As far as Gaven goes, I am sure he is concerned that we are powerful force to contend with. As far as your misguided "error of your ways" comment... again, there is no room for you and yours of all people to even suggest anything of the like, not that there is any "error" as you so daftly imply.
Again, political differences aside, I am sure that you will indeed see me and my kin on the field of battle against the Imperial forces..... when the time is right that is.
Rocius CEO, Gradient |

Horatio Nately
Battlefodder Inc The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.08.08 18:51:00 -
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Excelent Work on the intercept and containment of the escapees, however on a different note I do agree that is troubling that not only is concord allowing certain privelaged "collectors" to obtain authentic concord battleships, but that they would also sell them to these collectors in fully operational condition. Furthermore, it's not a good sign when concord can't clean up it's own mess when they're supposed to be a higher power in eve that all the major powers have put some serious isk and time into. ---------------------------------------
What Alt? Director, Battlefodder Inc. |

Nikali
Gallente The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.08.09 17:37:00 -
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One would rather imagine that the collector in question would be an individual of standing within the military of one of the Empires, or CONCORD itself. Perhaps a retired admiral. It would not surprise me if these vessels were decomissioned with their previous commanders, then aquired and restored to their full operational status during and after the sale of their late owners' estates. *********
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Awox
Awox Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.14 09:23:00 -
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So what did you finish a mission?
I am new at this please forgive. :S - nerf 0.5+ |
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