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Mung Lore
United Eve Mining Association
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Mung Lore on 24/07/2006 17:09:40 Cally I trusted you with my IPO's isk, I tursted you enought to let a person in my corp, but this is the last ...
At 7:24:2006 at 15:35 cally has withdrawal all isk in the UEMA corp wallet.
No eve-mails why, no e-mails why, just withdraw it.
Call has not been on for the last 3 weeks, and "been out of game due to a break in" and says "I CAN'T log in."
Well that is BS and BS, show me proff, yes I'm asking for proff in your brake in. this is BS I just PROVED you can log in to the damn. so thee is lie number one.
So at this point, EIB is making a FULL WITHDRAWAL from EIB as I fell EIB is only holding us back.
I am damanding a full return on all remaining shares, and isk, and a close of the EIB account.
To the investors, you might want to ride calls, but becouse he just took your money and tomorrow was payday.
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Cally
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:16:00 -
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Im afraid your mistaken. I have the character EIB OfficialUEMO on one of my accounts and only me has any access to it.
For that reason, your mistaken, and I suggest you let an outside party be granted junior accountant role in the corporation to view this transaction.
If someone has taken money from the corporation wallet, then It will be one of your staff or yourself. Regardless the journal with prove who done it.
Since this will have only occured on the UEMA side as I have been unable to log in, the remaining shares held by the EIB will be used upon my return to seize control of the corporation, liquidate it, and return investors money.
In the meantime, if you want to save some creditbility I suggest you investigate this further and report your findings honestly, since because I hold more than 50% of the UEMA shares, I have majority control over it.
This means: You cannot liquidate the corporation or unlock blueprints. You will not be able to kick my character. I will be able to replace you as CEO. I will be able to allow a third party in to view the wallet. After confirmation by a third party, I will liquidate the corporation and release all sensitive information regarding your characters to the general public.
Have a nice day.
Financial Services for the Citizens of Eve The EIB
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Mung Lore
United Eve Mining Association
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:23:00 -
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dont give me that bull cally
I have a screen shot, and your lieing.
screen shot
want to face up now cally.
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Mung Lore
United Eve Mining Association
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:24:00 -
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BTW corp funds were about 400 off due to my getting ready to buy a cheap freighter, (trade zyd and mega + isk)
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Tami Auryn
Natural Evolution
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:41:00 -
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Where's Currin atm ? this thread just beggs for his reply
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:45:00 -
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Interesting.
--Proud member of the [23]--
-WTS Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II, Medium Warp Bubbles- |
Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cally Im afraid your mistaken. I have the character EIB OfficialUEMO on one of my accounts and only me has any access to it.
good to know
Originally by: Cally For that reason, your mistaken, and I suggest you let an outside party be granted junior accountant role in the corporation to view this transaction.
just offered it to him
Originally by: Cally If someone has taken money from the corporation wallet, then It will be one of your staff or yourself. Regardless the journal with prove who done it.
so if u take it, they took it, ah yea, that makes sense...not?
Originally by: Cally Since this will have only occured on the UEMA side as I have been unable to log in, the remaining shares held by the EIB will be used upon my return to seize control of the corporation, liquidate it, and return investors money.
take money and then take the corp with all it`s assets, of wich u hold most of the shares so u get more money?
Originally by: Cally In the meantime, if you want to save some creditbility I suggest you investigate this further and report your findings honestly, since because I hold more than 50% of the UEMA shares, I have majority control over it.
This means: You cannot liquidate the corporation or unlock blueprints. You will not be able to kick my character. I will be able to replace you as CEO. I will be able to allow a third party in to view the wallet. After confirmation by a third party, I will liquidate the corporation and release all sensitive information regarding your characters to the general public.
siege control of their isk and then all their assets, sell it off, pay some divident, wich u get most as u hold majority of the shares, makes perfect sense again
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Astarrel Osteth
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:55:00 -
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I've heard from a reliable source that Cally's computer wasn't robbed. And I doubt the supposed robber said "Stick em up! Give me your EVE account passwords!" So then only Cally could have withdrawn that money.
Cally does seem to be in control of the corp, but isn't it just plain poor business ethic to go emptying out people's corp wallets, and then threaten to shut down their corp? For no apparent reason?
If you had a reason to drain his wallet, I'd like to hear it. If not, it sounds like Cally is full of it. |
Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:58:00 -
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Interesting indeed.
Almost as interesting as the question why Mung Lore doesn't have his accounting skills trained
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Banni Vinda
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Astarrel Osteth I've heard from a reliable source that Cally's computer wasn't robbed. And I doubt the supposed robber said "Stick em up! Give me your EVE account passwords!" So then only Cally could have withdrawn that money.
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It is possible (though I 'm not making excuses or taking sides just yet) that the passwords were saved, so didn't need to be entered every time when logging in. Although I'm sure noone would do that, since it leaves a big security hole. So, hypothetically speaking, if someone had stolen the computer, it is possible they could have logged in to Cally's accounts. However the thief would have to know what they're doing ingame to do this.
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Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Astarrel Osteth I've heard from a reliable source that Cally's computer wasn't robbed. And I doubt the supposed robber said "Stick em up! Give me your EVE account passwords!" So then only Cally could have withdrawn that money.
Cally does seem to be in control of the corp, but isn't it just plain poor business ethic to go emptying out people's corp wallets, and then threaten to shut down their corp? For no apparent reason?
If you had a reason to drain his wallet, I'd like to hear it. If not, it sounds like Cally is full of it.
if that computer was stolen then all eib money was gone aswell as any trace of isk or shares
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Banni Vinda
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite Interesting indeed.
Almost as interesting as the question why Mung Lore doesn't have his accounting skills trained
You mean the 1% sales tax?
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Mung Lore
United Eve Mining Association
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:21:00 -
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the accounting skills is there at level 0, needed to train other production skills first, as I'm almost done.
To everyone about this, this is on hold, due to more infomation is comming in.
I may be worng, I may be right, I will not say until ether or until I have all infomation in my hands.
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Ityrin Kasara
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:35:00 -
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I've checked over that image to see if it's a fake, and I can't find anything peculiar about it.
Mung Lore: Post a couple of screenshots where you've closed all the windows behind your wallet and your transparency is still up. The parts that have the EIB character's name are in front of almost solid backgrounds, making it very hard to see if it has been edited. This may be because they *are* edited, but you should post some more screenies to clear this up if it isn't.
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Nate D
GR0M
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:38:00 -
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I truely hope that this is not true... EIB was such a good idea. But that ss looks so real man...
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Barbicane
The Gun Club
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mung Lore ...To everyone about this, this is on hold, due to more infomation is comming in.
I may be worng, I may be right, I will not say until ether or until I have all infomation in my hands.
Eh? What about the screenshot then? (I've saved it locally and encourage others to do the same, just in case it happens to get deleted soon.) Get the information out here. You can't just make serious accusations and then withdraw them and hope your credibility remains intact.
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Benitow
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:45:00 -
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Oh dear, what a shame.
I hope all those who invested in EIBI/EIB get their dividends this month. They're due on the 28th aint they?
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Salazar N'terre
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:47:00 -
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Currently Mung lore and cally are on a private TS discussing this issue at the moment, like mung says, details to be provided later. |
Astarrel Osteth
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:01:00 -
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Odd that Cally goes MIA for 12 days and then shows up 15 minutes after this post. |
Barbicane
The Gun Club
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:02:00 -
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Well, I do find it very interesting that Cally hasn't posted in 12 days and still manages to make an appearance just 15 minutes after Mung Lore's post, and makes some rather serious threats:
Originally by: Cally ...This means: You cannot liquidate the corporation or unlock blueprints. You will not be able to kick my character. I will be able to replace you as CEO. I will be able to allow a third party in to view the wallet. After confirmation by a third party, I will liquidate the corporation and release all sensitive information regarding y
It's obvious we're not getting the whole story here... I'll keep my other thoughts to myself for now.
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Indomitus Rex
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:46:00 -
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I don't wanna say I told you so, but. . .
I told you so. Deutschland. |
HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:21:00 -
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I intend to contact Mung on my alt: (Hippoking Impersonator).
Would like to see the wallet in person if possible.
Of course, I may be refused on grounds of trust, so this is unlikely to be the be all and end all. On the other hand, if I am granted access and it is shown to be true...
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:47:00 -
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I was granted access. This is what I saw.
I can confirm that this withdrawl took place. The aftermath is not my concern really.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cally Im afraid your mistaken. I have the character EIB OfficialUEMO on one of my accounts and only me has any access to it.
Originally by: Mung Lore
After a closer look and a nice talk on TS, I've found out, that someone "other than" Cally, access the UEMA corp wallet through, the DIR char that EIB had put in to the corp to keep watch over it.
I will refrain from saying anything on that matter ... but that doesnt sound good.
see the original thread here: http://eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=369077#5200391
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:55:00 -
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For those interested in what Mung and Cally said before they realized something else was going on, EVE-Search only stores the original posts.
It will be very interesting to learn how "someone else" accessed Cally's alt... if it was a hacker, why didn't he just access Cally if he had the password to the account?
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Cally
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:04:00 -
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The character was on a different account to Cally.
Financial Services for the Citizens of Eve The EIB
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:11:00 -
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I take it there were 2 other business characters on the account as well? Did those lose ISK? Have you petitioned? Where did the ISK go? Do you intend to refund, and can you give a timescale?
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Mung Lore
United Eve Mining Association
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:02:00 -
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I have yet to get the isk back into the corp, as of right now UEMA is still out of 350mil.
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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mung Lore I have yet to get the isk back into the corp, as of right now UEMA is still out of 350mil.
Most of you guys know that my alt is Crazy Bugger, a teller with EIB. I can assure you that your isk will be returned. If the thief doesn't return it, Cally will out of personal reserves. If for some reason, he doesn't, I can be quoted here as saying that I will personally pay this amount out of my personal funds.
I am sure it won't come too that, but this should be an assurance to you that this will definetly be handled correctly. If you haven't recieved your funds within 24 hours of this post, I will wire them across to you myself.
Cheers Ricdic aka Crazy Bugger
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Mr Galant
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: Mung Lore I have yet to get the isk back into the corp, as of right now UEMA is still out of 350mil.
Most of you guys know that my alt is Crazy Bugger, a teller with EIB. I can assure you that your isk will be returned. If the thief doesn't return it, Cally will out of personal reserves. If for some reason, he doesn't, I can be quoted here as saying that I will personally pay this amount out of my personal funds.
I am sure it won't come too that, but this should be an assurance to you that this will definetly be handled correctly. If you haven't recieved your funds within 24 hours of this post, I will wire them across to you myself.
Cheers Ricdic aka Crazy Bugger
Hi Ricdic aka Crazy Bugger
Im really looking forward to getting the isk back that i`ve deposited into my account, and if its true that we will get it back within 24 hours of u posting , im going to be a very happy man .......
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