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Sasha Nyemtsov
51
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Posted - 2014.08.25 22:10:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Confirming: James 315, Erotica 1, Psychotic Monk, Cannibal Kane... these players kept me subbed when I was bored, lost, and on the verge of unsubbing.
Absolutely this. What the Carebears of Highsec seem to want is the removal of non-consensual pvp in the regions in which they choose to operate.
In the meantime, I can imagine them being quite satisfied with the sort of thing you're faced with in the initial dialogues of several single-player FPS games I know. You get to choose Easy, Normal or Hard. You don't get to opt for 'no baddies at all'.
If you come to a complex game, expect complexity. The Devs and Suits have laboured long and hard over making this game the deeply engaging and rewarding experience it can be. Perhaps that is the real challenge for the Highsec Carebear; he wants Eve to adapt itself to suit him, and not the other way around.
www.minerbumping.com |
Syssa Binchiette
5
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Posted - 2014.08.26 00:22:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:I think the real threat is the players who live in hisec, choose to do nothing remotely related to in-space PvP, and then whine to CCP about the fact that game mechanics don't conform exactly to their limited, other-MMO-inspired play-style.
EvE is a PvP game. Everyone vs. Everyone. Don't like it? There's the biomass button.
Yes, this has driven some players out. But it's also what makes EvE unique, and it is what will keep it alive in the long run.
Full quote: still hypocritical
EVE is NOT a PVP only game. Don't like it? COD is calling. Or for an MMO try Aion, that has tons of PvP.
CCP created a supposed "sandbox" game where players could do what they liked.
In that sandbox they threw toys other then just PvP.
Miners are going to mine (don't know why, it's boring as hell).
Explorers are going to explorer.
industrialist are going to make stuff
Traders are going to trade.
Haulers are going to haul.
PvP people are going to shoot each other.
PvE people are going to shoot rats.
Gankers are going to be idiots.
Groups that don't like what other groups do just have to get over it.
As arguing on a forum is as useful as banging your head into a brick wall (which is not useful at all and I speak from personal experience) I'll just fade out and let the usual suspects fight amongst yourselves.
P.S. Bumping in it's current form is a bug they never fixed. Watching someone get "bumped" is like watching the messed up physics in Goat Simulator, but I digress
Welcome to the preschool sandbox |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5365
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Posted - 2014.08.26 00:36:00 -
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Syssa Binchiette wrote:EVE is NOT a PVP only game. Don't like it? COD is calling. Or for an MMO try Aion, that has tons of PvP.
CCP created a supposed "sandbox" game where players could do what they liked.
In that sandbox they threw toys other then just PvP.
Miners are going to mine (don't know why, it's boring as hell).
Explorers are going to explorer.
industrialist are going to make stuff
Traders are going to trade.
Haulers are going to haul.
PvP people are going to shoot each other.
PvE people are going to shoot rats.
Gankers are going to be idiots.
FYI, every one of those activities you listed pits the player engaging in the activity against other player(s).
Quote:Groups that don't like what other groups do just have to get over it.
That, or do something about it. That's the thing about a multiplayer sandbox. You can do what you like and *so can everyone else.* That includes messing with each other.
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3468
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:29:00 -
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Syssa Binchiette wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:I think the real threat is the players who live in hisec, choose to do nothing remotely related to in-space PvP, and then whine to CCP about the fact that game mechanics don't conform exactly to their limited, other-MMO-inspired play-style.
EvE is a PvP game. Everyone vs. Everyone. Don't like it? There's the biomass button.
Yes, this has driven some players out. But it's also what makes EvE unique, and it is what will keep it alive in the long run.
Full quote: still hypocritical EVE is NOT a PVP only game. Don't like it? COD is calling. Or for an MMO try Aion, that has tons of PvP. CCP created a supposed "sandbox" game where players could do what they liked. In that sandbox they threw toys other then just PvP. Miners are going to mine (don't know why, it's boring as hell). Explorers are going to explorer. industrialist are going to make stuff Traders are going to trade. Haulers are going to haul. PvP people are going to shoot each other. PvE people are going to shoot rats. Gankers are going to be idiots. Groups that don't like what other groups do just have to get over it. As arguing on a forum is as useful as banging your head into a brick wall (which is not useful at all and I speak from personal experience) I'll just fade out and let the usual suspects fight amongst yourselves. P.S. Bumping in it's current form is a bug they never fixed. Watching someone get "bumped" is like watching the messed up physics in Goat Simulator, but I digress
If you want to do any of those things without interruption, try the test server, where there is no market.
There are no actions in EVE that are not putting you against other players.
Especially industrialists. I make most of my ISK from tech 2 production, and I harbor no illusons that this is not PVP. Everyone else that produces the same goods as me is my enemy, and every one of them I can ruin is a major victory.
Building Ishtars is as legitimate a form of PVP as a fleet battle in nullsec, or ganking a miner, or competing to hack a lowsec site before predators find you, or stalking a wormhole solo looking for targets of opportunity.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607 - Gank incursion runners, win prizes! August 26-Sept 30.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
9123
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Posted - 2014.08.26 03:02:00 -
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Syssa Binchiette wrote:
Groups that don't like what other groups do just have to get over it.
No, that's not true at all. Since it's a sandbox, we can go out and do something about it. Which is exactly what's happening.
You all, on the other hand, refuse to actually play the game, so you are simply chew toys for people who do.
That is your lot in life, unless you decide to stop acting like a prey animal.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Balron Slayer
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.08.26 05:24:00 -
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Buddy of mine lives in Nullsec (Providence), he is actually safer there than Hisec or Lowsec! Why do people think that playing in Nullsec means you have balls? Also many of the people there who are not taking part in a group fights seem to be flying around in cheap ships to minimize losses.
I'm not saying that miners in Hisec should be able to compete with nullsec miners, but I am saying don't blow the difficulty of nullsec out of proportion. |
Orchid Kell
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.08.26 07:59:00 -
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Gadon Longstar wrote:
He is responsible for several dozen unsubscribed accounts, perhaps over 100.
How many people have subscribed because of him by comparison? A couple dozen? loyalanon himself admitted they couldn't find any extra bodies for the alliance tournament if it was needed, so clearly it's not much more than that.
Actually I resubbed partly because of him. He showed me that people in this game are creating content, forcing player interaction and being vigilantes against botters.
Mining is not boring, you're boring. Read a book or something. Or you could try to be productive and play the regional market, or multi-box a whole operation, or roleplay and forum troll. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.08.26 11:20:00 -
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Just to speak it out, this is just some codie boring propaganda thread.
Its the rookies that mine in highsec pro-miners and pro-botter know theirs systems in low-, null- and even highsec. Another thing is, that pro-miners in highsec know what to do, to avoid any gankers.
So it all comes back to:
codies are carebears, that only fight the weakest beginners and drive them out early. those rookies are not the danger that those clowns try to draw on the wall. botters in highsec use skiff and procurers, those are not very often victims to codies.
content?
thats content of a trashcan.
Forum Main |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2516
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Posted - 2014.08.26 11:37:00 -
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Balron Slayer wrote:Buddy of mine lives in Nullsec (Providence), he is actually safer there than Hisec or Lowsec! Why do people think that playing in Nullsec means you have balls? Also many of the people there who are not taking part in a group fights seem to be flying around in cheap ships to minimize losses.
I'm not saying that miners in Hisec should be able to compete with nullsec miners, but I am saying don't blow the difficulty of nullsec out of proportion.
Yeah, he's safer, because his safety is maintained by himself and his allies being actively vigilant (rather than being AFK and relying on NPC space police, who aren't even there to "protect")
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Balron Slayer
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.08.26 12:19:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Balron Slayer wrote:Buddy of mine lives in Nullsec (Providence), he is actually safer there than Hisec or Lowsec! Why do people think that playing in Nullsec means you have balls? Also many of the people there who are not taking part in a group fights seem to be flying around in cheap ships to minimize losses.
I'm not saying that miners in Hisec should be able to compete with nullsec miners, but I am saying don't blow the difficulty of nullsec out of proportion. Yeah, he's safer, because his safety is maintained by himself and his allies being actively vigilant (rather than being AFK and relying on NPC space police, who aren't even there to "protect")
Why do you assume everyone in Hisec is AFK? I know there are BOT's, but not everyone is.
PS: He isn't safer due to his allies, he routinely takes Exploration trips into enemy territory (such as Catch) and other than the choke points, many of the systems are empty. Lowsec is more "dangerous" than nullsec. Want to have CCP really make lowsec and nullsec dangerous? Make local chat work like it does in wormholes, then it will be 100x harder to detect a hot dropper entering the system for example. Risk vs reward, right? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20378
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Posted - 2014.08.26 12:55:00 -
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Syssa Binchiette wrote:EVE is NOT a PVP only game. You're wrong, not only has RubyPorto rightly pointed out that all the activities you list involve competing with other players, ergo PvP, but CCP disagree with you too.
CCP wrote:This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core.
CCP wrote:Furthermore, as we mentioned previously, once you enter New Eden you must consider every action you take as a form of PvP since this is the core game concept.
CCP wrote:The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment.
CCP wrote:No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided.
All of the above quotes are pulled from the New Player FAQ that CCP published in February of this year.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2517
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Posted - 2014.08.26 12:59:00 -
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Balron Slayer wrote:Velicitia wrote:Balron Slayer wrote:Buddy of mine lives in Nullsec (Providence), he is actually safer there than Hisec or Lowsec! Why do people think that playing in Nullsec means you have balls? Also many of the people there who are not taking part in a group fights seem to be flying around in cheap ships to minimize losses.
I'm not saying that miners in Hisec should be able to compete with nullsec miners, but I am saying don't blow the difficulty of nullsec out of proportion. Yeah, he's safer, because his safety is maintained by himself and his allies being actively vigilant (rather than being AFK and relying on NPC space police, who aren't even there to "protect") Why do you assume everyone in Hisec is AFK? I know there are BOT's, but not everyone is. PS: He isn't safer due to his allies, he routinely takes Exploration trips into enemy territory (such as Catch) and other than the choke points, many of the systems are empty. Lowsec is more "dangerous" than nullsec. Want to have CCP really make lowsec and nullsec dangerous? Make local chat work like it does in wormholes, then it will be 100x harder to detect a hot dropper entering the system for example. Risk vs reward, right?
You're reading too much into this mate.
1. People in hisec aren't all AFK, but due to the Space Police "protecting" them, the residents of Hisec tend to AFK more routinely, or at the very least be more "inactive" when it comes to their safety.
2. Yes, he really is safer because of him and his allies putting forth the effort to make their home "safe". You can do the same thing in lowsec. Not so much in hisec, because you can't freely shoot neutrals.
3. Yeah, yeah, tons of empty systems .. but that's a symptom of the Sov mechanics coupled to human tendency -- I mean, we want to take huge swaths of space ... but at the same time, we want to be "near civilization".
Having lived everywhere, hisec is the most unnerving to be in, due to (comparatively) high neutral populations in the systems, and not knowing what people are up to.
You jump through a (hisec) gate into 20 ABC ... is that a gank fleet ... or just coincidence ?
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:03:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:Just to speak it out, this is just some codie boring propaganda thread.
Its the rookies that mine in highsec pro-miners and pro-botter know theirs systems in low-, null- and even highsec. Another thing is, that pro-miners in highsec know what to do, to avoid any gankers. Let me get this right, only rookies mine in highsec, unless they're pro miner or bots?
Do you even read the drivel that you post?
Quote:So it all comes back to:
codies are carebears, that only fight the weakest beginners and drive them out early. those rookies are not the danger that those clowns try to draw on the wall. botters in highsec use skiff and procurers, those are not very often victims to codies. Multi boxers and miners that are aware that highsec is just as dangerous, if not more so, as any other area of space, use Procurers and Skiffs, the AFK and lazy use Mackinaws and Retrievers because the size of the ore hold means that they can watch netflix for 30 minutes instead of playing the game.
Quote:content?
thats content of a trashcan. Much like your posting.
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
303
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:06:00 -
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Syssa Binchiette wrote:EVE is NOT a PVP only game. Don't like it? COD is calling. Or for an MMO try Aion, that has tons of PvP.
CCP created a supposed "sandbox" game where players could do what they liked.
In that sandbox they threw toys other then just PvP.
Miners are going to mine (don't know why, it's boring as hell).
Explorers are going to explorer.
industrialist are going to make stuff
Traders are going to trade.
Haulers are going to haul.
PvP people are going to shoot each other.
PvE people are going to shoot rats.
Gankers are going to be idiots.
I think we may be talking at cross points here. PvP is not exclusively players shooting other players while undocked. That is player combat. Every single activity you listed above is a PvP activity, even if no direct player combat is involved.
Mining is PvP. You are competing against other miners for limited resources. This is especially true in hisec ice belts.
Exploration is PvP. You are competing against other explorers to find and hack sites first.
Industry is PvP. Industrialists have a limited pool of materials to build from and must acquire it by competing with other industrialists.
Trading is PvP. Every time you undercut someone, or get undercut by someone, there is direct competition.
Hauling is PvP. People who can get cargo to their destination quicker and with more certainty will earn more ISK than those who can't.
PvE is PvP. NPCs drop resources valuable to all and free for all to take.
Ganking is PvP. And no, they're not idiots. Idiots wouldn't be so outrageously successful at it.
Syssa Binchiette wrote:Groups that don't like what other groups do just have to get over it.
As arguing on a forum is as useful as banging your head into a brick wall (which is not useful at all and I speak from personal experience) I'll just fade out and let the usual suspects fight amongst yourselves.
P.S. Bumping in it's current form is a bug they never fixed. Watching someone get "bumped" is like watching the messed up physics in Goat Simulator, but I digress
Since you still seem to have missed my point, let me highlight it for you:
Bronson Hughes wrote:I think the real threat is the players who live in hisec, choose to do nothing remotely related to in-space PvP, and then whine to CCP about the fact that game mechanics don't conform exactly to their limited, other-MMO-inspired play-style.
EvE is a PvP game. Everyone vs. Everyone. Don't like it? There's the biomass button.
Yes, this has driven some players out. But it's also what makes EvE unique, and it is what will keep it alive in the long run.
People are free to do as they like in EvE. It is a sandbox. This freedom includes the ability to influence the gameplay of others. What I see as being dangerous about a certain group of hisec residents is the fact that they don't like other people influencing their gameplay and constantly whine and complain in attempt to get gameplay changed instead of adapting to their environment. I have absolutely zero problem with people who never (willingly) engage in combat and never leave hisec. My problem is with the subset of those people who want to make it impossible for other players to engage them in combat.
CCP is on the record numerous times stating that bumping is a legitimate tactic and legal gameplay, so long as it is not so persistent between two people that it constitutes harassment. I'm not sure where your notion of it being an unfixed bug comes from.
One last thing: Forum Warrioring is a form of PvP too.... 
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:31:00 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Let me get this right,..
codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike.
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
The AFK and lazy use Mackinaws and Retrievers because the size of the ore hold means
That they can mine longer without returning to base. Higher productivity / better output.
netflixblabla = propaganda
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Much like your posting, which is
not my best english posting, i admit.
codies shoot newbies and drive them from EvE before they can HTFU.
Forum Main |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump
Surely You're Joking
1153
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:52:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:
codies shoot newbies and drive them from EvE before they can HTFU.
Not leaving EvE and adapting to the gameplay style is the very definition of HTFU. Learning to accept ship losses at a young age will do nothing but benefit those affected. The sooner they adapt, the sooner they can enjoy the real game.
And if they dont adapt, they are welcome to go play WoW.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:54:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. lol, I look at their killboard, I see plenty of kills that aren't rookies, or miners; in fact I see lots of ships that can shoot back being killed by them. In short, you're full of it.
Quote:All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. By whom, or what?
Quote:That they can mine longer without returning to base. Higher productivity / better output.
netflixblabla = propaganda Ahh the old ISK/hr defence. As for propaganda, would you kindly explain what the Mackinaw that I've been mining next to for the last hour is doing? He's certainly not playing Eve, I know this for a fact because his mining lasers haven't activated once, nor has he moved.
Quote:codies shoot newbies and drive them from EvE before they can HTFU. Now that is propaganda, it's not good propaganda, because it can be easily falsified.
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
307
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Posted - 2014.08.26 15:16:00 -
[48] - Quote
La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike.
So jump freighter pilots are rookie targets? Good to know.
Also, do this look like a bunch of "rookie" kills to you?
La Rynx wrote:That they can mine longer without returning to base. Higher productivity / better output.
netflixblabla = propaganda
Retrievers and Mackinaws are great for solo miners who don't have an Orca or a hauler to support them. For them, the lower yield is worth the larger hold. But for all those miners using fleets of Mackinaws surrounding an Orca? They're not maximizing yield, nor are they maximizing tank. What are they maximizing? The amount of time between necessary player actions. (Note, I make this statement without any judgement. It's just a rational conclusion based on the relative strengths of the ships.)
La Rynx wrote:codies shoot newbies and drive them from EvE before they can HTFU.
I got shot at a lot as a newbie, long before CODE. ever existed, and I know lots of other who were too. Some left, most didn't. If you can't handle getting your ship blown up, EvE probably isn't the game for you. Better to figure that out early on, isn't it?
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5367
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Posted - 2014.08.26 15:32:00 -
[49] - Quote
La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike.
Picking on rookies is against the rules. If you have any evidence that someone is doing that, you should petition them.
Of course, you might also just be confused about the applicable definition of a rookie.
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
157
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Posted - 2014.08.26 17:00:00 -
[50] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Confirming: James 315, Erotica 1, Psychotic Monk, Cannibal Kane... these players kept me subbed when I was bored, lost, and on the verge of unsubbing.
Aye and I learned a lot from them too both in the game and from videos and blogs i read as well. They introduced me to a whole new world of emergent gameplay and i love it.
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump
Surely You're Joking
1154
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Posted - 2014.08.26 17:17:00 -
[51] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. Picking on rookies is against the rules. If you have any evidence that someone is doing that, you should petition them. Of course, you might also just be confused about the applicable definition of a rookie.
Wait -- so six month old players who lose purple-and-blue battleships are not rookies?
Damn it!!
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
164
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:19:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well I just listened to the manifesto, and it sounds a bit like James 315 is scared that the miners are going to wreck the game for everyone. It's pretty amusing stuff really, but I cannot see it happening.
Miners are pretty easy to kill for a start, and CCP have stated time and time again that high sec is not supposed to be safe space. It is quite clear that the most vocal players in the eve community are those who wish to see high sec ganks continue. Do you really believe that CCP will change things, to the point of destroying our game completely?
I find it a bit ironic how the OP asked for us to avoid being hysterical in the thread, when he is propagating the very same! We have nothing to fear from the miners guys. Keep blowing them up and have fun!
Oh and if CCP tweak things again, like they did with the last balancing pass on the mining ships, then HTFU and adapt. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5367
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Posted - 2014.08.26 20:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:RubyPorto wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. Picking on rookies is against the rules. If you have any evidence that someone is doing that, you should petition them. Of course, you might also just be confused about the applicable definition of a rookie. Wait -- so six month old players who lose purple-and-blue battleships are not rookies? Damn it!!
Well, they are if they're in a rookie system. Or, maybe, it's unclear. CCP refuses to properly protect real rookies by simply making rookie systems off limits to PvP, preferring rather to say that you can't mess with "rookies" (a term they left usefully undefined) in rookie systems.
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Sasha Nyemtsov
52
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Posted - 2014.08.26 20:40:00 -
[54] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:Well I just listened to the manifesto, and it sounds a bit like James 315 is scared that the miners are going to wreck the game for everyone. It's pretty amusing stuff really, but I cannot see it happening.
Miners are pretty easy to kill for a start, and CCP have stated time and time again that high sec is not supposed to be safe space. It is quite clear that the most vocal players in the eve community are those who wish to see high sec ganks continue. Do you really believe that CCP will change things, to the point of destroying our game completely?
I find it a bit ironic how the OP asked for us to avoid being hysterical in the thread, when he is propagating the very same! We have nothing to fear from the miners guys. Keep blowing them up and have fun!
Oh and if CCP tweak things again, like they did with the last balancing pass on the mining ships, then HTFU and adapt.
Hi Renegade Heart - and thanks for listening.
There have been many interesting and well-reasoned comments to the thread thus far. This pleases me because when the name 'James 315' appears in a thread, it does frequently lead to bitter wrangling and name-calling.
Whatever you think of the content of the Manifesto II, it's encouraging to see the assertions discussed in a calm manner, without the knee-jerk blather we sometimes encounter.
Thanks to all.
www.minerbumping.com |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
164
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:12:00 -
[55] - Quote
Well you have to hand it to CODE for providing content. I cannot argue with that. |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
CODE.
97
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
We do our best to save highsec each barge at a time. Just finished with a Macinaw ORE edition. I think its the 4th or 5th one I've killed. They are WMDs of the most terrifying kind.... its like a nuclear warhead with a gold and diamond casing.
Together we can make Highsec a better place! www.lawofhighsec.com
Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, memorize it,-á live it, breathe it! |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. Picking on rookies is against the rules. If you have any evidence that someone is doing that, you should petition them. Of course, you might also just be confused about the applicable definition of a rookie.
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/the-young-knight.html
Well what better source than code themself?
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Bronson Hughes wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. So jump freighter pilots are rookie targets?
I am not talking of freigthers.
code propaganda ist not about freighters.
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La Rynx wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. So jump freighter pilots are rookie targets? I am not talking of freigthers. code propaganda ist not about freighters.
There's an old saying about the relative volume at which actions and words communicate.
I can't quite remember it.
You were quite specific in saying that CODE fights only rookies.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 09:36:00 -
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You got me.
It is mostly not only.
In fact freighters are "fair game".
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