I thought brave already had a 100+ member corp in gal mil

Uh oh, Caldari just flipped two systems back to back.

I'm not sure why you are so proud of yourselves. It's like the Persians boasting about being victorious over the Greeks at Thermopylae.

I dont really know of anyone who completely left calmil for gallente. Except for Borg maybe. We got tired of Khan Farshatok and his Napoleon/Vladimir Putin/Joseph Stalin/******/The Godfather/Anne Hathaway complex.

He's a turd and you can keep him and his minions.

Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.

point is that you won war without enemy. ofc some people fight but reason is not always to keep systems, it is just to have fights.

We knew it !! after all these moanings and crying a 0.0 alliance came to rescue our eternal frenemies :)

Welcome in Pasta , and welcome in leading Calmil they had waited for you to save them

(now they won't have to cynobitch to get some 0.0 alliance to come handle their fights for them , that a goo thing for liquid ozone availabilty

Yeah, but how many Caldari leaders were actually active that had a reason to do that compared to the number of active Gallente.

reason why no one defend ladistier could be that all was attacking it with alts.

Sure they could have tried to spread out the blob to keep the systems. But no one cared enough to bother. At least not the people who have been in fw long enough to really understand the occupancy mechanics.

The pvp corps are leaving and being replaced with corps where every member has a plexing alt. Call it the "new Gallente."

The forums are full of the same very vocal 6 people who think fw occupancy is something worth caring about.

There is nothing in FW that is worth fighting for ..

The overwhelming response from most people who thoroughly understand the mechanics is that they couldn't care less about the overall occupancy war.

Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game.

I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week.

So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. ..... Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme.

Do you think vp are irrelevant? Do you think the alts rabbit plexing everywhere are irrelevant to the occupancy war? I said if gallente had no rabbit plexing alts they would be lucky to be at tier 2. Do you disagree?

So you post to rebut his point....then concede his point...?

What?

This thread has gotten even worse. Hard to believe.

The winning strategy with these mechanics is a pretty boring one. But that is a completely subjective opinion of mine, I admit it.

Shadowolves.net.

The next thing I am wondering about is; does capturing the war zone mean anything if one completely fails to hold it? I ask, because it was interesting to see the war zone fall. It has been frustrating watching GalMil stroke themselves over taking the entire war zone, and confusing why whenever their lack of control of the war zone come us it has been brushed off with a "Oh we are letting you in" that is just insulting to everyone reading that. Especially given the discussions people had been having over pulling punches when the enemy is down.

Na, the whole .net thing made it far more embarrassing. Curious was the name inspired by jazz music fans within your ranks or Anime fans?

History is written by the winners. So I'd listen to the GalMil, because its apparent they did something right.

I agree with the person who said too many people speak in terms of absolutes. I am not saying main pvp characters did nothing. But if gallente had no alts plexing for them they would be lucky to hit tier 2 and probably would be wiped out. The game is way too dependant on alt plexing.

The question is what effect did the gallente alts have on your taking all systems.

Do you think Gallente would have taken all the systems without any alts? What tier do you think Gallente would be sitting at if they had no alts plexing for them?

Are you saying you think gallente could have gained and held the entire warzone for at least one downtime without any plexing alts helping you?

You didn't answer the question. The reason you didn't answer the question is because you are too wrapped up in silly arguments about your militia being better than the other militia.

The issue to what extent rabbits alts have on the occupancy war - not quibbling about which militia has more alts.




Again you keep wanting to point fingers at the other side instead of answering the question.

The question is: under the current mechanics if Gallente did not have plexing alts would they be able to take all the systems? Of course the other side would have plexing alts like they do now. Certain players have been trying to claim the gallente alts were not that important for the gallente victory etc.

I am putting that in perspective and saying what should not be controversial to anyone familiar with the occupancy war. That is if Gallente did not have plexing alts (or minmatar alts) in thier front they would be sitting at tier one and lucky to hit tier 2 on occasion.

Do you agree?

It did cross my mind to have a friendly and hostile rat in ALL plexes.

The need to kill a rat while offensive plexing is a rather crude attempt to simulate the difficulties in besieging a hostile stronghold, one that really isn't needed. Why artificially inflate the effort required to assault a system when the onus is already on the attacking side to initiate an often lengthy process.

Nisuwa, Notoras (Crosi)

Crosi is my Brosi, but I beg to disagree.

Just making plexing that is not done afk is not where I am setting the bar. Just because you have to be in a chair staring at the screen does not mean it's fun game play. The faction war occupancy game can easily be more fun and exciting than that, and ccp has indicated they will do the things to make it that way.

Logged on, OTO is vulnerable. 15 kills in 2 hours and squids retreated to let us stabilise the system a little.