Frig whs need some sort of hint on the k162 side. I suggest making the wh graphic much smaller similiar to the size of a crit wh.

First question- Why are ISD's running feedback requests now? Isn't the job of an ISD to keep things civil and on track, when did you have development training.

My question isn't an attack on an ISD but a concern that this isn't a thread started by a CCP developer when we clearly have multiple Hyperion threads started by CCP developers and not ISD's to discuss these issues.

Can some Dev or ISD or someone please provide a timeframe for when to expect an official response from the Devs on the Mass-Based Spawn Distance issue? As many players have written well thought out posts identifying serious flaws in this new addition I feel that a response is warranted.

Can some Dev or ISD or someone please provide a timeframe for when to expect an official response from the Devs on the Mass-Based Spawn Distance issue? As many players have written well thought out posts identifying serious flaws in this new addition I feel that a response is warranted.

Would changing it back to how it was before be as welcomed?

um, yes. yes it would.

Well my general feedback is that we had so many conncetions yesterday, that it was very hard to scout them all.
With that bigger Corps and Alliances are in favor. And that was the beauty about WHs that small Corps like mine were able to pvp and pve as we please.
Maybe Yesterday was an exception but we will see how that effects our gameplay on the long run.
I mean nobody in the right mind will do pve with 3-4 connections and those have 3-4 connections and so on.
You might push out small corps out of j-space, if thats you plan then yay, you have done it!
We will see if we can manage...
so long

Can some Dev or ISD or someone please provide a timeframe for when to expect an official response from the Devs on the Mass-Based Spawn Distance issue? As many players have written well thought out posts identifying serious flaws in this new addition I feel that a response is warranted.

Where is the incentive for new players to enter wormholes, this should be the main and imho most important part of any direction change.

I like the changes in general

I have to ask when this changed as you have consistently complained about all of these changes?

So you prefer general feedback here?

First i would like to point out, that the whole process of multiple threads and ignored feedback of numerous inhabitants of w-space, really it does not fill me with any confidence, just that we are shouting in an empty room, and when were are done we get a pat on the back with this thread.


My stance is pro change in w-space, as numbers in w-space were dropping, and things were stale, but changes to an old and working system should at least be discussed properly and that includes feedback and acting upon it.

Also where is the sweet with the sour, we have holes that act like gates now. increased times rolling, Swiss cheese systems which cater to a size ship which CCP likes to promote, but frankly does only cater to larger groups out side of w-space.
Where is the incentive for new players to enter wormholes, this should be the main and imho most important part of any direction change.

I just don't see it, it doesn't reward players jumping into lower class wh, which later on makes them moving up or grow bigger, providing the content. numbers = content. And these changes don't accomplish that nor do we see a point to mixing things up without it.

Frig whs need some sort of hint on the k162 side. I suggest making the wh graphic much smaller similiar to the size of a crit wh.

Starting a thread, to tell us there are threads of feedback, after we have already given feedback and continue to do so, in other threads for feedback, and prefacing it with the rules of giving constructive feeback?

You have lost the battle at step zero. You shouldn't need to have this thread if the feedback was working.

CCP, I am disgusted with your lack of communication.

There was a town hall, which Fozzie attended, and some posts from Fozzie in the feedback threads. I'm i'm curious as to what comments you want...?

I'm all about complaining if i don't like something but i never forget who is being payed to design the game.

There was a town hall, which Fozzie attended, and some posts from Fozzie in the feedback threads. I'm i'm curious as to what comments you want...?

I'm all about complaining if i don't like something but i never forget who is being payed to design the game.

All of these topics are a bunch of crying. The only logic people have put into any of their reasoning is they don't want to put ships at risk.

If you don't want to put your assets at risk then don't leave your POS, or better yet find a station, it is much safer.

Nobody wants to hear CCP's reasoning, all they want to hear is that CCP will do whatever it is you want.

I'd like to echo the comments made by others about the negative impact to small/solo corps. The addition of so many new holes has made scanning and op sec a basic non-starter for any small group. I logged in yesterday, took one look at the 6 holes connecting to my system, the 5 holes connected to my static, and logged off.

The holes now are like swiss cheese, with each one having 5+ connections and 5 more connections in the hole you jump into. It feels like null-sec with a system that has 6 gates and no local! There's not a chance anyone in their right mind would take the risk to run some sites in this environment.

The feeling/lore of being lost/isoluated in W space is complete gone, it's just one giant interconnected parking lot now, with no one running anything and everyone POS'd up because you can't roll even 1 of the 6 connections you have.

For me, I'm a solo corp, I'll be running down my fuel reserves and then moving out of J space, and possibly leaving the game. WH's were the last place a solo operator could "claim" and defend/homestead a system, enjoy some PvP hunting/being hunted and make decent income. But I'm not here to be cannon fodder to the 150 people my home system is connected to on any given day, and I doubt many other low class WH inhabitants are either.

So wait, you think that suddenly because you have 4-6 connections to your home/static that means everyone is just waiting for you to leave your POS to blob you? In what world does that even remotely make sense. First people complained that they only had one static, so they had to rage roll to find someone because nobody lives in w-space anymore. Now CCP gives you more holes, so more potential pew, and that too is a problem because, well, I am not quite sure why that is a problem.

To me it sounds like "I want to pew, but only on my terms where I know I will win." which is the very definition of risk averse. The first step is admitting you have a problem. I am here to help if any of you need someone to talk to.

CivilWars, I don't assume that each connection to my hole has a fleet waiting to blob me. I'll admit that most holes appear inactive. Were you to enter my hole it would also appear inactive. That's because idling in your pos is silly, idling cloaked somewhere meaningful is more likely whats happening. So if I scout a hole out and don't see anything happening that simply means no one is decloaked, not that no one is there. It certainly could mean that there is a fleet in some/all of them also watching me. This means each hole presents an added risk and added reward.

Scouting 5 holes isn't a bit issue in itself either, it takes effort but so what? Well now after they are scouted I'll want to do something. Due to a limitation of pilots available, only so many holes can be covered at once while doing whatever activity the corp decides to do. We need to adjust the risk/reward to a scale that is appropriate for the number of pilots available. To address that issue we will close the holes where we do not intend to fly into, this eases the burden of scouting so many holes and reduces the likelihood of getting caught in a position I don't want to be caught in.

It is somewhat true that I want to pew pew on my terms. I want to pew pew where I have a chance to win. Would you engage a 10 man fleet with 2 T3s? Doubtful. Neither would I. This does not mean risk averse. Risk averse is turning down what appears to be a close/fair fight. This I do not do.

TLDR: More holes is good. More holes I can't close is bad.