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ShiveringJunky
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:12:00 -
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I am a very new player and have come into possession of 6 elite mining drones. I have searched the market in game and not seen any of these for sale in the system I am currently in. Can anyone advise about what they are worth?
Thanks for helping the newb!
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:38:00 -
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Shivering
Quite a bit more than a harvester as they mine the same amount but occupy half the space in drone bay, and are much much much more rare than harvesters.
Currently harvesters are going anywhere from 200-600k due to recent changes in the harvester market/supply.
Did you get your elites recently as a drop item from a convoy/pirate, or are they old ones a friend gave you?
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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ShiveringJunky
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:43:00 -
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Thanks for the reply, Bashar!
I just came back to Eve after many months away. On my last day of playing I attacked a convoy and they dropped as loot. It sounds like I got pretty lucky? are these not dropping anymore?
If I am selling any suggestions on what a fair price is?
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Shivering
Quite a bit more than a harvester as they mine the same amount but occupy half the space in drone bay, and are much much much more rare than harvesters.
Currently harvesters are going anywhere from 200-600k due to recent changes in the harvester market/supply.
Did you get your elites recently as a drop item from a convoy/pirate, or are they old ones a friend gave you?
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:48:00 -
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Just some advice: Depending on how bad you need to sell them, you might consider keeping them in hopes that some day CCP will put in Reverse Engineering. I mean imagine being one of the few corps to have a bp for the Elite mining drone.
Otherwise, Try selling them for 300k as a base price, I use to have a supply of Improved mining drones in which I was able to sell for around that price. As stated above, They are rare and take up less space then harversters.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:22:00 -
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Take a look at the stuff on my site Shivering, perhaps we can work out a trade. I would like a few more backups in case I lose any of mine ;)
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 06/10/2003 18:25:06
By the way rumor has it the elites dont drop any more, although I do know where basic/standard/improved/ drones drop, and they sell for 100-300K easy as pie on the regular market....never had a pile last longer than one day so far...but alas I cant shoot the convoys anymore as im trying to get my faction up with the company im doing missions for hehe.
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Bashar Miles Teg
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:44:00 -
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I would say that they are better than harvesters due to their small size, but previously the low price of harvesters meant they weren't worth risking. Now that harvesters are creeping up in value they're looking more attractive again.
If you (or anyone else with elites) want to sell them I'll give you a good price - contact me in game. I'm mostly interested in them so I can fit more in my agent cruiser drone bay when doing the pesky mining ones.
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ShiveringJunky
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:16:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies and help folks, much appreciated!
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:55:00 -
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Whatever you do, don't sell them cheaply. 300K is a joke. These have a similar advantage over harvesters, as miner2s do over other miner types (i.e. not much on paper, but enough). Don't mess about. Put them up for sale at 5 million, or 10 million. Hell, start at 20 million, and see if anyone wants to buy, then work down. The implant market is reaching silly prices, the miner market is still silly, so why not the drone market?
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 06/10/2003 20:11:45
uhh lilly the advantage miner II's have is they mine more than any other laser.
the advantage elite drones have is they take up less space, however you can't use more than 10 of any drone and you get exactly the same ore ouput as a harvester so if your not short on drone bay they make absolutely no differnce. Most (not all) of the people who would pay more for elites are people who are short on drone bay because they use frigates or cruisers. Most of these people, arent going to be able to pay tht price even if they wanted to. The only person who might pay such silly prices is someone attempting to buy all of them in the game to reverse engineer and get a potential monopoly. (on the slim chance that reverse engineering makes it into the game before elites are re-enabled in the loot tables) Unfortunately, I have not met this person...however if you know someone who is crazy that way, I'll gladly sell my own supply for such generous figures ;)
By the way if anyone cares the reason I use elites is i can fit 8 in with a few combat drones to boot so i am not totally defenseless when NPC pirates come a calling
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:14:00 -
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Bashar, you're a miner, not a trader, aren't you? ;-)
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Mikeman
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:45:00 -
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IŠll buy a few for the price of 1 million isk each if your interested.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:59:00 -
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5M is a crazy price, they're rare but not that rare and they aren't particularly useful now most people have a battleship for serious mining. 1M or so is a fair price though, usual price used to be 750K. If anyone has any and are willing to sell a few at that price let me know.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:16:00 -
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20 million LMAO
Come on, losing a mining drone is a LOT easier to lose compared a Miner II (to NPCs for instance). By the way, the difference between a M2 vs M1 is a LOT bigger than harvester vs elite.
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ShiveringJunky
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:23:00 -
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Wow, a million a piece? It is a noobs wet dream! That would sure give a boost to my playing. I will consider selling a couple and maybe I will keep a couple for myself as well.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:13:00 -
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Sorry to be rude lilly, but thats kind of a dumb question to ask 1 inch below my advertisement for my eve store hehe
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Bashar Miles Teg
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PERCYDAMAN
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:15:00 -
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I wouldn't sell them. 6 mil comes and goes easily after you've played long enough. Hold on to em and see what happens in the future.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.07 01:24:00 -
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20 million LMAO
Come on, losing a mining drone is a LOT easier to lose compared a Miner II (to NPCs for instance). By the way, the difference between a M2 vs M1 is a LOT bigger than harvester vs elite.
Reversed engineer a elite mining drone and get a bp from elite mining drone is far more worth than 20m.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 02:57:00 -
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well it sure better be worth more than 20M cuz odds are your not gona get it on your first try...and yes an elite drone BP might be valuable now, but if they start dropping again it will be less valuable. And its not like anyone ever buys eleites for 5M now, when they arent dropping, so how much are you gona get for them when they are dropping?
Dont get me wrong, it would be a good BP to have, but its not gona be a money printing press like certain other BP's
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2003.10.07 07:33:00 -
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Heh Bashar, I did notice that you'r a trader. My smiley was intended to suggest that it was in your interest to get him to sell cheaply to you. Maybe I'd had a bit too much Quafe when I suggested 20mil, but the principle of starting with a high price and seeing if they sell is sound, don't you think?
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.07 08:48:00 -
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20 million LMAO
Come on, losing a mining drone is a LOT easier to lose compared a Miner II (to NPCs for instance). By the way, the difference between a M2 vs M1 is a LOT bigger than harvester vs elite.
Reversed engineer a elite mining drone and get a bp from elite mining drone is far more worth than 20m.
Maybe, if it were not that every man and his dog will have reserve engineered a harvester bp at the same time. Most people that can afford to spend a lot on an expensive mining drone with low hit points (which is what an elite drone is) will also have a battleship, and in a battleship almost any of them can fit in 10 harvesters.
They have a niche role in agent mission cruisers but that's about it - only a fool would use an expensive and fragile mining drone in low sec space which is the only place where the small size might be a consideration so that you can mix and match. All you'd need is a missile or two from an angry NPC and there goes your cash...
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Jonask'ri
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Posted - 2003.10.07 09:37:00 -
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Heh Bashar, I did notice that you'r a trader. My smiley was intended to suggest that it was in your interest to get him to sell cheaply to you. Maybe I'd had a bit too much Quafe when I suggested 20mil, but the principle of starting with a high price and seeing if they sell is sound, don't you think?
High and Ludicrous are different things.
High, people will bargain you down.
Ludicrous, people will think you're an idiot and just ignore you.
*Points to post trying to sell perception implant at 75mil*
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 09:45:00 -
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In that case, I'll start selling my 250 gausses at 100 million. That's EASY money if you reverse engineer it, just sell 20 (production cost 50k?) and you're clear of the "BP" cost
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ULTIMA TREX
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Posted - 2003.10.07 12:31:00 -
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Lets not forget that the future better heavy combat drones will take up more space in ur cargo hold. so u might want more space in ur cargo hold hence use elites instead. if i use 10 harvies thats 1000m3 if i use elites thats 500m3 dependant of how large the better combat drones r i would greatley appreciate that extra 500m3.
and like Athule said elites r looking more tasty due to harvies rising in price.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 16:48:00 -
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Ah gotcha Lily, I thought you were implying I must be a stupid miner not a trader because of something I said in my previous post ;)
As to starting prices ridiculously high, I don't think its a good idea for most traders.
It depends if you value repeat business.
If your out to make a one time killing profit then move along, sure start trying to sell the items at the top end prices or even 2x top end prices before moving to more resonable prices - you might just get a sucker to buy. If and when he realizes he was ripped off, it will be to late.
Myself, I place great value on repeat customers wanting to shop with me long term, and telling their friends they got a good deal from me is crucial to the longterm success of my business.
Some items I do price right at the top end of the current market values, but generally these are only the high demand items, or items that I only have stock of 1-2 items and don't expect to be able to get more of in the near future. If it's a low demand item, or I have 50 of them in stock I try to set my price accordingly lower than market average (after all selling something at a discount is better for everyone involved than me taking it to the scrap heap)
For the rest, I try to set my price dead center of what other folks sell them for. Guess the upside is I don't have to worry about some stupid person I took advantage of declaring one man suicidal corporate war on me...or worse yet he may have some stupid friends to help him out ;)
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 07/10/2003 16:56:21
By the way ULTIMA TREX, there are currently no know plans to make any drones a differnt size. All techs of combat drones are currently 250m3.
The only thing I can think of that may affect the "value" of your drone space, is the rumored introduction or repair or salvage drones....but who knows if those will ever materialize. If it does...then perhaps we will also see this elusive item:
Name Drone Hangar I
Group Hull Modification
Race
Description This huge unit replaces most of a ships cargo with a large drone bay.
Base Price 1664
Volume 5 m3
Capacity 0
hp 20
Powergrid Requirement 40 MW
CPU Requirement 600 tf
Speed Bonus -10.00 m/s
Cargo Capacity Bonus -90.00%
Structure HP Bonus -15.00%
Max Passengers Bonus 0
agilityMultiplier 1
Primary Skill required Hull Upgrades
requiredSkill1Level 1
Tech Level 1
droneCapacityBonus 3000
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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ShiveringJunky
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Posted - 2003.10.07 17:04:00 -
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Well it has been an interesting read/discussion, and I have had a few in-game inquiries about buying. I think I will offload a few to the higher bidders. If you are interested contact me in game, ShiveringJunky. If we spoke yesterday and I said I would contact you prior to selling any, don't worry, I will be in touch.
Junky
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