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Dreez
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:15:00 -
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This is my idÚa on how to setup a Blackbird against an Apoc , depending on the Apoc to be armed for "war" not protection against ECM.
Anti-Apoc Blackbird setup:
Highslot-1: ? Highslot-2: Heavy Launcher+Torpedo/Paradise Highslot-3: Heavy Launcher+Torpedo/Paradise Highslot-4: Heavy Launcher+Torpedo/Paradise
Medslot-1: MWD Medslot-2: Webifier Medslot-3: ECM Phase inverter -6 Radar Medslot-4: ECM Phase inverter -6 Radar Medslot-5: ECM Phase inverter -6 Radar Medslot-6: WarpJammer
Lowslot-1: RCU/Cap-relay Lowslot-2: RCU/Cap-relay -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Im not sure fancy over the webber since it is bugged atm, but when CCP fixes it again it will be usefull .
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:19:00 -
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Looks pretty good unless the apoc is using FoF cruise missiles/drones (they actually hurt when you're in a cruiser).
By the way, how are webs bugged? I can only think of that they don't limit missile knockback (which will probably get fixed), plus that the graphic disappears sometimes. The effect is always there though.
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Nootami
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:47:00 -
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Apoc's dont have launchers do they?
Originally by: Cortex Reaver [22:39:59] [Oi]Nootami1 joined channel [22:40:02] [Oi]Nootami1 quit
Oh,look! Someone joined for a whopping .3 seconds! -CR
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:51:00 -
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They have two 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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ULTIMA TREX
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:02:00 -
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and id stay nice and far away from you with tachyons charged with Radio crystals and a MWD.
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DrEvil
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: DrEvil on 06/10/2003 18:43:07
On paper, its easy to set up 1v1 scenario. It's quite another to execute in-game.
If you are specifically looking for an a lone Apoc to battle with, an unsuspecting player is easy to kill.
If you challenge the Apoc to a dual, I imagine the Apoc to refit appropriately for your ship.
If you ecm rigth away, than their first action is to get away. No lock No love.
If you want to "hunt' apoc, stealth and passive targeter is better.
The key here is to get in web range so that if they do have a MWD, they wont be able to get away.
If the battle occurs near a gate or station, than a good chance they will be able to dock/jump even with being web unless like 60km out.
Why? they will have at least 1 em and 1 thermal hardner and probably a large shield booster and getting through 7000+ hp (shield and armor) takes awhile even with missiles.
With reload on your launchers, I would say it would take about 3-4 mins minimum to take out an apoc, solo. And if they MWD even at -80%, your missiles will help them with speed boosts to get closer to the gate/station. 
*One more thing, you want to bring explosive or kinetic missiles, switching missiles matched for armor weakness is sooo much more pro.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:18:00 -
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Sorry to break it for you, but one single cruiser can never destroy a battleship.
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:21:00 -
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especially if that apoc has +20 radar strength, then u can kiss goodbye to your BB very quickly
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:23:00 -
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Quote: especially if that apoc has +20 radar strength, then u can kiss goodbye to your BB very quickly
"depending on the Apoc to be armed for "war" not protection against ECM"
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:30:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: especially if that apoc has +20 radar strength, then u can kiss goodbye to your BB very quickly
"depending on the Apoc to be armed for "war" not protection against ECM"
Why wouldn't it be possible that an Apoc armed for was has ECCM?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 06/10/2003 18:50:00 Don't ask me - I'd never attack a battleship like that  Edit: Also I'd never use a config without any ECCM whatsoever.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:25:00 -
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Quote: Sorry to break it for you, but one single cruiser can never destroy a battleship.
I think that's a pretty big supposition, especially since single cruisers have destroyed battleships on several occasions.
A better statement would be something like:
Quote: One single cruiser can never destroy a battleship if the battleship pilot isn't stupid.
And I think we all know just how many stupid pilots there are out there...
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:57:00 -
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I think you would run out of missiles before the you killed it and if he had just one eccm device or backup scanner of a type other than radar you would be a hurting unit.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.10.06 23:06:00 -
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I pilot a blackbird almost exclusively. Here is the BS death toll.
1x scorpion 2x dom 1x megathron.
nuff said the bb owns thsoe ships if ur have any clue how to equip a BB. also it doesnt take long for 3 torps and a gun to widdle a bs down. I say 2-3 min tops and the bb can carry 50+ torps and cruise missels so ammo is no issue. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.06 23:14:00 -
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Quote: I pilot a blackbird almost exclusively. Here is the BS death toll.
1x scorpion 2x dom 1x megathron.
nuff said the bb owns thsoe ships if ur have any clue how to equip a BB. also it doesnt take long for 3 torps and a gun to widdle a bs down. I say 2-3 min tops and the bb can carry 50+ torps and cruise missels so ammo is no issue.
LMAO There are some really stupid pilots with battleships then.
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SS Vegito
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Posted - 2003.10.06 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: SS Vegito on 06/10/2003 23:55:07
Quote:
Quote: I pilot a blackbird almost exclusively. Here is the BS death toll.
1x scorpion 2x dom 1x megathron.
nuff said the bb owns thsoe ships if ur have any clue how to equip a BB. also it doesnt take long for 3 torps and a gun to widdle a bs down. I say 2-3 min tops and the bb can carry 50+ torps and cruise missels so ammo is no issue.
LMAO There are some really stupid pilots with battleships then.
Must be since another battleship can sit there and shoot me with torps and not hurt.
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.10.07 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 07/10/2003 00:33:12
Quote: I pilot a blackbird almost exclusively. Here is the BS death toll.
1x scorpion 2x dom 1x megathron.
nuff said the bb owns thsoe ships if ur have any clue how to equip a BB. also it doesnt take long for 3 torps and a gun to widdle a bs down. I say 2-3 min tops and the bb can carry 50+ torps and cruise missels so ammo is no issue.
duh......it doesn't matter you have clue or not, if those battleship pilots have clue, you can't do it. BB can be easily taken out if battleship pilot know what to do, but scorpion can't be taken out so easily when jammed, that's why scorpion is so feared (actually it doesn't matter you are jammed or not, scorpion just so hard to beat )
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Stonyvision
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Posted - 2003.10.07 09:02:00 -
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Even if you have him nailed nowhere form a gate/station...he'll just set the large shield booster to auto and log off. It's still the 2 minutes if i am not wrong. You wont kill him in 2 minutes with a BB.
Either bring a friend or just hope you find a dumb apoc pilot.
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