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Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:34:00 - [31] Is there an original thread about Smoske's death around here somewhere? I seem to recall reading it ages ago but EvE-Search turns up a whole lot of nothing. -----
David Godfrey Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:34:00 - [32] I hope smoske dad doesnt read this but you are sick and you will get what comes to you! --------------------------------- Ghey Seal of Approval
Leilani Solaris Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: Leilani Solaris All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion. Eve forum mods can remove sigs on goonfleet forums now? When you actually get a clue as to what went on, then you can troll. Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums. Instead of there being a load of threads on it here.
Jags Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:35:00 - [34] This tw@t deserves all he and the bunch of tards backing him up get. To disrespect a beloved friend of the EVE community who is sadly no longer with us is wrong. In fact I dont have words to describe how wrong that is. Expect retribution from every corner of EVE , You will not be made welcome anywhere after this.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:37:00 - [35] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 27/07/2006 16:38:28 Originally by: tseros I'm posting on an alt because we've been told we're getting fined or banned or something for posting here, but some things have to be said. perhaps you should respect your alliance's policies and not post. If you mock someone who has died in real life, it doesn't matter if the mockery happened in a game or on a forum. The mockery happened, and the insulted parties will get revenge in the only manner they can - ingame. It really isn't so difficult to understand this.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:38:00 - [36] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 27/07/2006 16:37:57 Opps double post
Nahual Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:39:00 - [37] this so better have been a bad dream, as david said, I hope that his father doesn't read this. Nothing else needs to be said, there are certain lines, some of them are crossed. ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:40:00 - [38] Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:43:34 Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:41:46 Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened. Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are (yes, tastelessly) attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased. The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate the involvement of almost the entirety of GoonSwarm with this game. Originally by: Leilani Solaris Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums.. Nobody in GoonSwarm brought mention of it here.
tseros	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic perhaps you should respect your alliance's policies and not post. If you mock someone who has died in real life, it doesn't matter if the mockery happened in a game or on a forum. The mockery happened, and the insulted parties will get revenge in the only manner they can - ingame. It really isn't so difficult to understand this. As far as I know, the only humor found in the situation by goons, is how people keep dragging this guys name up in threads about us for their 'political' motivations. It has nothing to do with some guy being dead. You've got idiots bringing his name up to spite people, you have got idiots making fun of the fact they do so, now you've got idiots declaring video-game war apparantly to avenge some poor **** who is dead. Retards.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:42:00 - [40] Originally by: Calenth Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened. Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased. The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate or perhaps you just weren't relevant until recently, and people actually didn't go to that hole of a forum until recently.
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:43:00 - [41] Edited by: Turiya Flesharrower on 27/07/2006 16:43:42 Originally by: Calenth Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened. Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased. The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate This man speaks the truth! It seems that BoB are trying to put a self-righteous slant on their continued crusade against any entities they deem to be potential threats. And the best part is that everyone is falling for it; the BoB propaganda machine strikes again! -----
budman905 Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:43:00 - [42] Originally by: tseros Edited by: tseros on 27/07/2006 16:32:43 Originally by: Judicator Edited by: Judicator on 27/07/2006 16:17:49 .... goons explode And anyone else stupid enough to get in our way. Judicator I donÆt care what happens in an internet spaceship game because seriously itÆs a game, but I am getting seriously sick and tired of things in a computer game being related to some bloke who died in real life okay. Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened. And then we have someone like you getting your jollies about a make-believe war about to happen, because some dude who is actually dead keeps having his name dragged out into the open and now thereÆs going to a fight in virtual space about it. It is getting beyond a joke now, and the forum mods need to sort a policy. I'm posting on an alt because we've been told we're getting fined or banned or something for posting here, but some things have to be said. 1st things 1st, Sorry E-R/E-U on behalf of our no-posting rule, Please excuse me to write this as this sickens me beyond belief. ... now thats out the way, i personally hope BoB and SirMolle pod you and your entire alliance over and over and over until you all quit Eve. I only wish that BoB would set me to +standings so i could fly with them to slauter your sorry a**'s. Gl BoB, Hope you fry every single 1 of them! =============================================== "Thank you for using the S.A.S Clone jump service, Have a nice day" =============================================== http://www.pwned.nl/
David Godfrey Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:45:00 - [43] Edited by: David Godfrey on 27/07/2006 16:45:18 Originally by: Calenth Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:43:34 Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:41:46 Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened. Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are (yes, tastelessly) attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased. The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate the involvement of almost the entirety of GoonSwarm with this game. Originally by: Leilani Solaris Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums.. Nobody in GoonSwarm brought mention of it here. Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again! --------------------------------- Ghey Seal of Approval
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Jags Expect retribution from every corner of EVE , You will not be made welcome anywhere after this. Erm. The amount of cooperation these guys have with ERA (your allies) in cache must've passed you by mate.
Cringeley Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:48:00 - [45] Please don't feed the alts. Tseros doesn't speak for us, neither does Calenth, and neither do I (except to remind everyone to please not feed the goddamn alts). Tseros, if you are a member of goonswarm then please stop whining. -------------------------------------------- Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust.
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 - [46] Originally by: David Godfrey Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again! Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet.
Ranko Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 - [47] It looks like the goonies has not only awoke the sleeping giant, but also gave it a slap to the face in the process... A member of the goonies offended not only BoB but many others in this game, so now they are going to have to pay price for their one member being a stupid and argogant person who has little or no care for those that came before him and who is still respected by many who play this game. Wake up, its time to die goonies... ---
Leilani Solaris Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:50:00 - [48] I think all of these goonswarm/smoske threads need to be locked and settled in game.
Ranko Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Leilani Solaris I think all of these goonswarm/smoske threads need to be locked and settled in game. Locked... maybe... Settled in game.... ohhh most deffiantly... ---
Franky B Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:54:00 - [50] Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower BoB will come out of Delve with a few HAC gangs, splatter some goons in Syndicate/CR for a few days and then return to their POS and ratting. We shall then be liberally showered with chest-beating BoB posts, declarations that justice hath been served and other completely farcical announcements which basically boil down to BoB taking any excuse to get out of Delve and do something while still retaining some of the air of mystery that they hold so dear. Thus it is written; thus it shall be. Do you honestly believe this? do you remember the "little operation" in EC? the "roadtrip" to deklein in christmas? and those werent even "personal".
DeathGrip Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:54:00 - [51] I have to agree with BoB on this one. FOr the goons that had nothing to do with this, I do wish you luck.
Rhakel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Is there an original thread about Smoske's death around here somewhere? I seem to recall reading it ages ago but EvE-Search turns up a whole lot of nothing. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=169571
tseros	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:55:00 - [53] Edited by: tseros on 27/07/2006 16:55:23 Originally by: budman905 1st things 1st, Sorry E-R/E-U on behalf of our no-posting rule, Please excuse me to write this as this sickens me beyond belief. ... now thats out the way, i personally hope BoB and SirMolle pod you and your entire alliance over and over and over until you all quit Eve. I only wish that BoB would set me to +standings so i could fly with them to slauter your sorry a's. Gl BoB, Hope you fry every single 1 of them! You are so stupid I cannot even articulate it. Originally by:** Cringeley Tseros, if you are a member of goonswarm then please stop whining. Fine. And my posts are my personal opinion if I need to post that.
Atandros Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 16:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Calenth Originally by: David Godfrey Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again! Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet. Why do you think BoB would need a pretext to attack you? -------
Furnok Dorn Jita Highway Patrol	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:00:00 - [55] Originally by: Calenth Originally by: David Godfrey Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again! Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet. welp looks like calenth is trying to online a Damage Control mod but he doesnt have enough cap :O
Astarte Nosferatu Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 - [56] I can't believe I'm actually supporting SirMolle and BoB on this one. If there are two rules on these forums, it's don't smack/flame recruitment threads, and don't insult/laugh with other people's real life problems. In any case, goons, you've offended a lot of people in a lot of alliances, so I seriously doubt you'll ever be able to live in 0.0 or empire even while being in Goonfleet/Goonswarm. One member of a 3000 member alliance just destroyed everything you worked for the last few months. Best thing to do now is to disband both Goonfleet and Goonswarm, and break up, as after this, you have no future left as an entity. Smoske was a good friend to many, and he will be honoured by those friends. Resquiescat In Pace.
Orest Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 - [57] Originally by: Cefte In a large corporation or alliance, policing the membership can be difficult. It is however, a neccessity to do so, despite such difficulty, to ensure a base standard of decency and discourse. After discussions among our leadership, a single member has been deemed to have broken the very low levels of decency we require our people to maintain. His roles have been removed, and he will be ejected from his corporation when the timer is completed. Thank you for your attention. Goons you are the lowest of the low. This time you pushed it too far. You will get elimated for this.
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 - [58] Originally by: Atandros Why do you think BoB would need a pretext to attack you? Political move. By coloring this as "defending the memory of Smoske" they make it look like they're doing something other than (attempt to, so far anyway) beat up on an alliance full of newbies because they don't want those newbies to grow into a threat. Makes it harder for us to call in allies or play the political game. Of course, that may just be my tinfoil, and it could be that BoB picked today of all days, when GS is locked in a death-struggle with d2, to pick up a four month old post, bring it here, troll with it, and then start a war over it in complete innocence and is genuinely offended. If so I apologize for my doubts. But to my mind it looks bad, it looks extremely convenient.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Faaip De Oiad	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:04:00 - [59] Originally by: Calenth Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. short attention span?? link ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.27 17:06:00 - [60] Originally by: Leilani Solaris Originally by: Mr Happ Originally by: Leilani Solaris Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 27/07/2006 16:21:33 Molle and his ego While i don't condone the goonfleet guys actions (freedom of speech anyone?) he shouldn't have put that kind of content in his sig, whatever, get over it. Bob being all self rightous n all, get over yourselves. No disrespect to Smoske or his family (or any other player that has left us) intended. Do you or did you know the guy? And by the love of all gods, what right do you have to make that kind of statement? Back the **** up fool, cause i cna tell you now, don't get involved in this If you have a problem with anything i said in that post you're very welcome to try and settle it ingame, leave it off the forums. Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, at least where i come from at least.. I also said in the post that i don't agree with what he put in his sig and it is very offensive and disrespectful. But as usuall BoB go sticking their noses in other people business once again... All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion. bring it of stfu, mr 4 man corp :)

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