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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.09.04 07:13:00 -
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Russian and Wild wrote:
is the evga 1000w not a good power supply? I tried to do some readings on reviews and such and it seemed to do well.
It is a good power supply, albeit imo overpriced, but it's ridicoulously oversized for your rig. With a single graphic card and a modern cpu 600w will already be more than enough |
Adrie Atticus
the shadow plague The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.09.04 08:27:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:I am sorry to do this but you said 'good components' and you post an Asus board. Use a Gigabyte instead, seriously! The support from Asus is bad. Gigabyte has much better support and I haz connections to Taipeh directly . You also posted some G-somewhat RAMs and I would go Kingston HyperX instead, those even like overclocking with life long warranty! Harddrives I would prefer Seagate but they don't have SSD drives as far as I know. If you want a good SSD, do not use Samsung, use Intel / Kingston and maybe OCZ. Also keep in mind that you will need an appropiate power supply. This I cannot stress enough. It is one of the most important components of your rig. And if you have somewhere at the range of 60$ US, go by and APC surge protector, for lightning protection. You won't be sorry.
1) Gigabyte and ASUS have the same return rates in europe and USA, less than 3 units difference last month.
2) Life-long warranty is less than 3 years in most cases, the first instance you replace the motherboard the memory warranty seizes as it's not the same computer anymore. It's not your lifetime, it's the lifetime of the memory you originally installed.
3) All commecrcial mechanicals are awful, all enterprise mechanicals are awesome, no need ot be brand loyal.
4) Samsung has higher MTBF (not a few percent, talking multiples here) compared to every other SSD manufacturer outside of Intel. You cannot buy better than Samsung Pro or high-end Intel drives.
5) Surge protection is godlike, I agree.
Russian and Wild wrote: is the evga 1000w not a good power supply? I tried to do some readings on reviews and such and it seemed to do well. the reason i went with the samsung is also due to good reviews from multiple websites so i was willing to give it a shot. ill look into those kingston rams, that life long warrenty is good. I know asus does not have best support, but out of all the computer products ive used asus is the one brand that hasnt given me a failure yet so im going to try and stick with it. and I already have that surge apc protector, its a good investment :))
It's a good pwoer supply, except you're paying too much for the power. Unless you are going to run 3x of those graphics cards, stay on a 550-600 watt Seasonic (highest quality commercially available). Keep the samsung and on the memory just buy whatever has 3 years or more of warranty, makes no difference. Asus is as good as other brands, people are just thick when they don't have wholesale/importer figures for warranty and failure rates. |
ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:37:00 -
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You can run 6 clients very well on a 6 year old system....
Just make sure to have at least 8 gb of ram because 4 GB is rough going.
I've had awful luck with seagate over the last 25 years. THe last seagate drive I bought bricked itself and the last seagate drive I used in a build went bad after a few months.
Asus ASrock Gigabyte MSI all produce good quality boards and all have roughly the same level of customer support. There are aberrations when dealing with each company.
I've used Kingston Gskill Crucial Patriot Corsair all which have worked fine. THe only ram I've had issue with was a cheap pair of Patriot RAM and newegg replaced them quickly.
I have a preference for Gskill but that's because they tend to be cheaper for the quality. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:38:00 -
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Just buy some PLEX instead of upgrading "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:10:00 -
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Mr Mac wrote:i7 is overkill really I have i5, 16GB, GTX660 Im running 2xEVE, Diablo 3, WoW same time Also have Visual Studio, Photoshop and some apps runing No lag or spike
Some of us only buy 1 computer every 8 years though, so getting good stuff is a good investment. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Mobbel Ernaga
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:34:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:You can run 6 clients very well on a 6 year old system....
Just make sure to have at least 8 gb of ram because 4 GB is rough going.
6 is a lot, at least with 4 you shouldn't be disappointed. My system was bought in September 08 and does that, wasn't a highend system at thta date. Anyway I would suggest buying 2 of those cheap 5+ year boxes, maybe put in a decent graphicscrad and run 3 on both. It's not so much about what the computer can actually handel it's more some kind of failproof so chances you get hit hard by Murphys law are lowered by half. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:25:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Mr Mac wrote:i7 is overkill really I have i5, 16GB, GTX660 Im running 2xEVE, Diablo 3, WoW same time Also have Visual Studio, Photoshop and some apps runing No lag or spike Some of us only buy 1 computer every 8 years though, so getting good stuff is a good investment.
If you have a budget for high end, it's better to buy 2 mid grade PC over those 8 years than 1 high grade one. It's sad but still true. |
Wingzero Mileghere
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:41:00 -
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Russian and Wild wrote:EVERYONE! Thanks for help! You all helped in opening my eyes to different things :) I ended up going a bit higher than needed setup, which will also help me in playing other games than eve (THERES OTHER GAMES THAN EVE?) Cooler Master HAF XB EVO Cube High Air Flow Case Intel Core i7-4790K Processor ZOTAC nvidia geforece gtx 770 4gb ASUS atx ddr3 LGA 1150 maximus VI formula EVGA supernova 1000 wat g1 atx power supply samsung 840 pro series 512 gb ssd (+ exta mechanical hd for basic data) Corsair Vengeance Pro 16gb ddr3 2400mhz pc3 some cooler master case fans + cooler master hyper 212 evo cpu cooler asus 24x dvd drive win7 home premium i only went with 16gb for the time being since i dont think eve will use more then that (can add more down the road) hopefully this works out well for me, my first pc buitl
Personally I would have run a AMD setup but nothing wrong and actually a nice setup ASUS regardless of what has been said here are great boards and yes the EVGA power supply will do just fine and for your first build you did good at least you didn't use a AMD video card with a intel processor you matched everything well and left room for improvement down the road so nothing wrong with the build at all
you did good |
5yndr0m3
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:11:00 -
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The best thing you could get is multiple monitors when multi boxing. For the longest time I only used 1 and it was ok, all windowed etc. then I upgraded my PC and bought another monitor. I cannot see myself going back to just one. |
Charles Muffins
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:05:00 -
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Russian and Wild wrote:Hello Comrades. I seek advice on a pc build intended for eve multiboxing cilents (at the most 6ish) this would be my first pc build, before its all online ordered or store bought and I am not as computer savvy as most in this game so this is why I come to you for ideas. I've done a little reading on multiboxing setups that others have had, and this is my idea. please give input if you see a major flaw in the plan: : Intel-« CoreGäó i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 : ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER ATX w / Intel GbLAN, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 1x M.2, 6x SATA 6Gb/s : G.SKILL 32GB (8GBx4) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory : EVGA Superclocked NVIDIA GeForce GT 740 4GB GDDR3 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Dual Card, Non-SLI) : 240GB Intel 530 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 490MB/s Write + 2 TB Seagate Mechanical Harddrive for basic data From my reading its very important to have enough ram and a good motherboard to facilitate the transfer of data between all parts, will this work with the dual video cards? I am grateful for any input here since most of my pc knowledge comes from reading other people talk on forums or if you multibox and could share your proven setup I would appreciate too :D
I feel bad for you. The 5th gen Intel processor comes out summer 2015. |
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Russian and Wild
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:17:00 -
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Wingzero Mileghere wrote:Russian and Wild wrote:EVERYONE! Thanks for help! You all helped in opening my eyes to different things :) I ended up going a bit higher than needed setup, which will also help me in playing other games than eve (THERES OTHER GAMES THAN EVE?) Cooler Master HAF XB EVO Cube High Air Flow Case Intel Core i7-4790K Processor ZOTAC nvidia geforece gtx 770 4gb ASUS atx ddr3 LGA 1150 maximus VI formula EVGA supernova 1000 wat g1 atx power supply samsung 840 pro series 512 gb ssd (+ exta mechanical hd for basic data) Corsair Vengeance Pro 16gb ddr3 2400mhz pc3 some cooler master case fans + cooler master hyper 212 evo cpu cooler asus 24x dvd drive win7 home premium i only went with 16gb for the time being since i dont think eve will use more then that (can add more down the road) hopefully this works out well for me, my first pc buitl Personally I would have run a AMD setup but nothing wrong and actually a nice setup ASUS regardless of what has been said here are great boards and yes the EVGA power supply will do just fine and for your first build you did good at least you didn't use a AMD video card with a intel processor you matched everything well and left room for improvement down the road so nothing wrong with the build at all you did good
Thank you for the nice words, I tried my best to pair everything up accordingly, the rest of my parts arrive tomorrow so should be an experience. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6033
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:21:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Mr Mac wrote:i7 is overkill really I have i5, 16GB, GTX660 Im running 2xEVE, Diablo 3, WoW same time Also have Visual Studio, Photoshop and some apps runing No lag or spike Some of us only buy 1 computer every 8 years though, so getting good stuff is a good investment. If you have a budget for high end, it's better to buy 2 mid grade PC over those 8 years than 1 high grade one. It's sad but still true.
Not really. The only thing I've replaced in this thing in the last 8 years is the graphics card. It's a lot cheaper than buying a whole new computer needlessly. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24430
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Posted - 2014.09.05 06:25:00 -
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Charles Muffins wrote:I feel bad for you. The 5th gen Intel processor comes out summer 2015. I thought Pentium-« came out in 1993. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.09.05 08:26:00 -
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not sure what the criticism of AMD is about. it must be something personal. my rig works fine, and the bottleneck is still the graphics cards President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.05 08:38:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:not sure what the criticism of AMD is about. it must be something personal. my rig works fine, and the bottleneck is still the graphics cards
You always get camps.
Apple v Samsung
Apple iOS v Android
Apple iOS v Windows
Apple v Microsoft
Apple v Anybody with a brain (waiting for the rage )
Intel v AMD
Nvidia v ATI (AMD)
Ford v Chevy
Goons v Test
SA Forums v Reddit
The list goes on and on.
The thing is those in either camp will always swear blind the other is rubbish no matter what.
The truth is when it comes to components (Intel, AMD, Nvidia, ATI (AMD) etc there is usually very little in it and when there is a difference it is usually for a very specific task. |
ashley Eoner
333
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Posted - 2014.09.06 04:59:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Rain6637 wrote:not sure what the criticism of AMD is about. it must be something personal. my rig works fine, and the bottleneck is still the graphics cards You always get camps. Apple v Samsung Apple iOS v Android Apple iOS v Windows Apple v Microsoft Apple v Anybody with a brain (waiting for the rage ) Intel v AMD Nvidia v ATI (AMD) Ford v Chevy Goons v Test SA Forums v Reddit The list goes on and on. The thing is those in either camp will always swear blind the other is rubbish no matter what. The truth is when it comes to components (Intel, AMD, Nvidia, ATI (AMD) etc there is usually very little in it and when there is a difference it is usually for a very specific task. You really don't know much about hardware.
Samsung was the biggest supplier of components for the Iphone. Which made the whole lawsuit thing hilariously awful.
Intel and AMD use radically different core and CPU designs which result in differences in real world performance depending on the software being used. The task at hand has much less to do with performance then how the program performing the task is programmed.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.09.06 05:33:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:You really don't know much about hardware.
Samsung was the biggest supplier of components for the Iphone. Which made the whole lawsuit thing hilariously awful.
Intel and AMD use radically different core and CPU designs which result in differences in real world performance depending on the software being used. The task at hand has much less to do with performance then how the program performing the task is programmed. Congratulations on proving him right while trying to do the opposite.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6045
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Posted - 2014.09.06 13:41:00 -
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I got my iPhone 4 for free. It's ****. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
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