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Yasir
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Posted - 2003.10.07 02:05:00 -
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What is the value of an Office? Our corp had policy in the early days of the game of opening an office everywhere they found one open so we have about 70 that we are paying rental on! Some of these are in very desirable locations and some are in out of the way places.
So what is an office worth? 10, 20, 50 100 million isk? I'm interested in everyone's opinion.
Yasir
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Jonask'ri
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Posted - 2003.10.07 08:49:00 -
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Personally.
Don't think they're worth anything ;(
Especially when you can leave stuff for other people (securely) by way of courier missions...
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Arkonor
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Posted - 2003.10.07 11:57:00 -
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people who sell offices = lame and should be podkilled
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Tzadkiel
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Posted - 2003.10.07 13:08:00 -
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we have about 70 that we are paying rental on!
 thx for blocking lots of ppl to expand and get offices to do so ...
shmock
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Perera
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Posted - 2003.10.07 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Perera on 07/10/2003 13:25:24
Edited by: Perera on 07/10/2003 13:24:38
Yup. Just because we're corp mates doesn't mean it's the only reason I'm agreeing with Tzad.
70 offices?
You use them all? You have more than one in a system? People who sell offices should be banned. You rent them, they do not belong to you. It's a massive loophole exploit that CCP haven't closed yet because the buying/selling part of offices seems to be an uncommon act, although correct me if I'm wrong.
That and the fact that some folk prefer not to use them. For those that do though, it's a pain in the a55 to fly around trying to find space in a good region and finding nothing, just a bunch of apparently unused, obsolete looking offices.
*and now breathe...*
Perera - Corp shrink!
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.10.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Falnaerith on 07/10/2003 13:32:43
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70 offices?
You use them all? You have more than one in a system?
Perhaps that's why he's trying to sell them? If you remember back a while ago, the same thing happened with indy and research slots. For a new corp with plans to expand, how could they not sieze as many assets as they could, especially with many larger corps using the same tactics?
I agree though that going out to rent each and every office you can find is a bad thing, but selling old offices? Don't really see much of a problem, though I do agree those prices are a bit high, considering who is probably buying them.
Course if they are in the outlying regions, I could easily see them being that much, b/c they ARE worth that much and more.
*EDIT* Typos, too early 
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.10.07 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Falnaerith on 07/10/2003 13:31:28
Double post.
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.10.07 13:36:00 -
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From the sound of the post, it would seem a smart buyer would just wait.
Sometimes, time is of great importance and someone might be willing to pay to have immediate or guaranteed access.
Do not hate him for wanting to clean house and make a profit.
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Yasir
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Posted - 2003.10.07 14:24:00 -
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These offices belong to my old corp Galactex, not my currnet corp Solar Wind. My alt is now the CEO of Galactex and the thought of traveling to literally every region accessible in game atm to release these is more than overwhelming.
As far as being Office pigs goes; I now agree with some of the posters. It was wrong to follow that policy. Most of these stations were secured in the first month of release though and you have to admit that it took some balls to travel to the ends of the universe in a Frigate!
Galactex is not hurting for money. It could hold onto these stations for another year if need be. I was wanting to help other corps by making these stations available and had no idea if they had value or not. Certainly my time and the danger involved in traveling to some of these places is worth something as it takes time away from playing my main.
So enough bashing! What is a station worth? 
Yasir
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Yasir
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Posted - 2003.10.07 14:25:00 -
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people who sell offices = lame and should be podkilled
Bring it on dude!
Yasir
Solar Wind |
Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.10.07 14:34:00 -
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I believe the devs said in a recent CSM that they were looking into shadow corps with a huge amount of offices and would do soemthing to clean it up shortly.
Here's hoping.
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Yasir
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Posted - 2003.10.07 14:42:00 -
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Actually Galactex was not a shadow corp. It was an active and viable corp with over 40 members. Then our CEO and 70% of our members quit the game and the remained decided to join another corp. There are now only 3 active members of the old corp left and I am trying to make things right.
Yasir
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 07/10/2003 15:41:23
Edited by: Bashar on 07/10/2003 15:38:44
Yeah it may have been reasonable at one time, but with a current roster of 3 its not. The bottom line is when the time comes that CCP puts some restrictions on offices, a corp like yours with 23 offices per member is going to be one of the first in line to lose most of them. My advice, if you need money is sell for around 1-5M now before you lose them to a patch. If you don't need the cash just have all three of you start unrenting them as you travel around on your normal activites...you wont get to them all anytime soon, but freeing up a few more open offices here and there might give you warm fuzzy feeling about doing something for the betterment of EVE ;)
By the way if there are only a couple offices you need, take the money out of the corp account and let all of them get taken away due to nonpayment. Just be ready to re-rent the ones you do need quickly before someone else grabs em.
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:36:00 -
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My corp rented offices in the regions where we worked in the early days. As time went on, the pirate alliances showed up and we were forced to pull up stakes and move our operations to unclaimed space. Since you can't unrent an office remotely and since some of our offices are on the other side of seriously dangerous blockades, there's not much we can do about it except allow the rents to lapse. I'm not willing to do that because if we don't have an office there, its impossible to recover impounded equipment, some of it quite valuable. Personally I have no need of the 22 office my corp has rented, many of them in regions we never visit anymore.
I have a problem with people saying those who have office space rented and do not use it should be podkilled, since most of us have good reasons for keeping those offices rented. If the game provided a mechanism by which assets in closed regions could be recovered, and offices unrented remotely, then getting rid of those offices wouldn't be a problem. As it stands there is no such mechanism.
In the meantime, I would be willing to risk the blockades if unrenting an office gave some reward worth the trouble. Hence, selling office space for at least the price of an adequate clone is the only incentive that will get me into those parts of the galaxy.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:57:00 -
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impounded equipment can be claimed any time someone with the ability to do so flies over. If you have a corp office it will be dropped into the corp hangar, if you do not, it will be dropped into the personal hangar of the person taking it out of impound. I have only done this with my CEO, so I don't know who is allowed to remove stuff from impound other than CEO ;)
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 20:04:00 -
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Last I tried to recover items from a corp hangar where we had no office it didn't work. You have to click the corp hangar button to get the offer to pay 5k for impounded stuff, but if you don't have an office there it tells you that there is no office and no corp hangar rather than telling you that property has been impounded. There's a shuttle I can't recover because of this, and no way to dispose of those items like it.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:21:00 -
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:41:00 -
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Did you try using the "trash it" option from the corp panel on your impounded shuttle?
I know impounded stuff will dump into your hangar if you are the CEO...last time i forgot to pay my rent, i clicked the ?open corporate hangar" button and it said my items were impounded...so i payed for them without first paying for the corp hangar again, and ended up with 800 asorted corp items mixed into the 300 I already had in my personal hangar :(
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:56:00 -
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It should be possible to outbid other corps on offices if they have a certain amount of it and it's not their HQ. Buying them out at the station and then the current owner can decide to up the bid or let the office go.
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Arkonor
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:59:00 -
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Bring it on dude!
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