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london
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Posted - 2003.10.07 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: london on 07/10/2003 17:24:40
With the possibility of an imminent war between the Amarr Empire and Minmatar Republic. In the latest headline by Lemetar Relem , it was stated the Gallante Federation would be obligated to follow suit and defend its Minmatar allies. ôThe Federation has always been a staunch ally of the Minmatar Republicùwe would have no choice but to aid our friends.ö Also, given the fairly recent Gallante and Caldari joint government interests in Crelier (sp?), it is highly unlikely that the Caldari would object to the Federations involvement and possibly jeopardize their established relations with the Gallante.
Some of the questions this has raised for me are:
where does this leave the average Gallante citizen, miner, trader, or businessman? - Are we too stand aside and let our navy protect our interests if Amarr ships storm our space in retaliation? Or are we going to be called upon for individual or corp action against the amarr?
Also, Is the government going to commission corps that manufacture weapons and supplies during time of war to aid our fleeting economy?
How will this affect *US*
some thought are welcome.
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.07 17:58:00 -
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If something like this does happen I'd love for them to add race specific bounties or rewards for players serving their respective empires as privateers. Make players choose whether they want to register as privateers for their race (don't allow privateering for other than your own race, make the one you chose actually mean something). This could essentially allow PvP combat in Empire controlled space if both parties have registered as privateers without aid from empire navies or CONCORD (kinda like the PK or PKLite system in AC where the players had the option to turn). Traders that want to remain neutral can do so and those wishing to fight for the greater good of the Republic can do so while defending their empire's space from the enemy or bringing the fight to the enemy.
Example - Let's assume the Caldari State and Gallente Federation are at war with one another. London signs on as a privateer for the Gallente Federation (allowing him to fire on and be fired on by other enemy privateers in every region of space). BahBah signs on as a member of the Caldari State. While the two are employed as privateers from their respective empires they recieve a weekly "donation" from their empires according to their effectiveness at de-shipping the opposing side (or it can be podding instead, doesn't matter). Let's say London takes out BahBah while he is hauling weaponry for his corp, London's privateer rating should go up by a small amount and act as a multiplier for his weekly "paycheck". Those that are bringing the fight to the enemy and getting high privateer ratings will have a larger paycheck at the end of the week than someone that decided to turn privateer and just sat in an asteriod belt mining. Make all privateer contracts last 1 week (like insurance used to) with the option to continue for as long as the player wishes to. I'd venture to say that huge RP corps could actually be very effective employing a large amount of privateers, each receiving a paycheck from the empire.
Crap...I'm sure I saw something similar to this with the bounty hunter registration concept. Don't mind me, I let my mind wander after I drank yet another CokeÖ....
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Yangja Isuko
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:21:00 -
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excellent idea about the privateer issue.
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:26:00 -
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This would be an interesting prospect. I to like the privateer idea, good one. I am curious however if a large scale conflict like this does insue, what happens to all the Amarr stations in Caldari and Gallente space? Do they default to the host Empire or stay in the soverignity of their respective corp?
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:27:00 -
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I just want a reason to pay attention to prime fiction, I'd love to care when the Amarrian emperor passes away or when disagreements are brewing in the OW-PUNK system betwen the Caldari and Gallente.
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:29:00 -
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This would be an interesting prospect. I to like the privateer idea, good one. I am curious however if a large scale conflict like this does insue, what happens to all the Amarr stations in Caldari and Gallente space? Do they default to the host Empire or stay in the soverignity of their respective corp?
Good question, I'll have to wait until I enter another Coke induced high before I can answer that one, lol.
/me pulls out a bag of chips....
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:38:00 -
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There will be an amarr civil war if anything with a few government backed incursions by minmatar forces to 'free' ammatar systems, no all out war, that would be way premature.
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:49:00 -
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We don't need anything huge to start with, just something to whet the appetite. Make all privateers display their race symbol in the place where the skull and crossbones would noramlly go (if they were a pirate) on the character assessment sheet with their fanaticism rating when you mouse over it, lol.
Link the fanaticism rating to their weekly paychecks or something...hell require a certain rating to fly the empire's new prototype warship. I just want to see a game that forces the players to assume a stronger link with his or her character ingame.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:51:00 -
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There were privateers from other countries looting their native lands ships in the heyday of piracy you know...
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:57:00 -
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Roger that, I'm just looking for a concept. I know that several priateers used to "double dip" when it came to favoring nations, blowing up each nation's ships in order to receive land and titles from the other country. It doesn't have to be that complex, but if it could be implemented that way I'd be for that too, lol.
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:14:00 -
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It would make EVE more interesting to have NPC factions waring against each other. It has been anounced that an ELO rate system willl be introduced. It would be interesting to see how the NPC conflicts effect our individual standings. Another point I would like to raise along these lines is, there are many ethicly diverse player corps in EVE. How will such a conflict effect players in there PC standings towards an Empire. Would it depend on idividual standing (i.e. agents and such) or PC corps being able to throw in their collective lot with one faction or empire?
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:29:00 -
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problem is introduction of racial-allowed kills or factions with currently mixed corps etc... now had the racials standing factions and corp standings/faction been in since the start....
somehow i can only see the "conflict" int erms of a story until a lot of others issues are resolved.
always part of the problem with trying to enforce a storline onto people where the effect is intagible... bascically it wont work and would cause even fewer to take any note of prime fiction.
We can only hope they put in relevant factions and give far warning of such... somehow... we doubt it...
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:44:00 -
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problem is introduction of racial-allowed kills or factions with currently mixed corps etc... now had the racials standing factions and corp standings/faction been in since the start....
somehow i can only see the "conflict" int erms of a story until a lot of others issues are resolved.
always part of the problem with trying to enforce a storline onto people where the effect is intagible... bascically it wont work and would cause even fewer to take any note of prime fiction.
We can only hope they put in relevant factions and give far warning of such... somehow... we doubt it...
I agree, on Chaos we see the race and faction skills available but I don't think they will really be implemented in a fashion that would directly benefit the game right now. I could be wrong on that point. I for one like the fact that the NPC storyline is progressing and we are seeing some addition of content with that. However I think the current crux of the issue like you mentioned Morkt, is that most players ignore prime fiction rules and are not really interested in RP-ing a certain "event" or occurrence without a direct benefit. I can see the logic in this and I can also see why a person who is interested in the game in the RP facet would want to see the NPC storyline progress. As for me personally I enjoy the fact that there is a NPC storyline and that there is some direct effect on the player population (i.e. Emperor Heir Champions). I however think that this needs to also happen more often and what is going on in Empire and non-empire space can be reflected into the over all story line. One thing I think that will lead to solve this problem is the NPC storyline having a direct effect on what happens in Empire space and what is happening in Non-Empire space (player driven) conflicts and alliances should have some direct effect on how the internal politics of the Empires work. I know that the NPC storyline is prewritten and will have some ômilestonesö in it that canÆt be deviated from, but there is a large potential for some player driven plots and storylines to be carried out along the way...
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london
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:59:00 -
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I completely agree with you Rinekar on the point about non npc factions and alliances counting for something, and possibly swaying the outcome of npc conflicts and events.
There was also a valid point mentioned about the diversity in corporations. How will a conflict like this affect mixed race corps?
(if only in RPing)
I think its somewhere in CCP's plan to allow us to shape this universe (one can hope).
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 07/10/2003 20:09:14
I'd imagine corporations would have to make an active pledge to be included in one side of the conflict or another for the privateer benefits that would render. A possible drawback would be diverse corporations or as in our case cults which do not pledge to anyone being left without any benefits but may suffer consequences of persecution in certain regions.
What I'm more interested in seeing is the perticular corporations matter more than they do for general faction standing, as it is now. It would be an incentive to do missions for a great variety of corporations instead of working for one specific employer.
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2003.10.07 20:17:00 -
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I have heard it mentioned in various areas by some devs on how this new rate system (ELO) may work. There is also some mention in recent CSM logs that certain standings towards factions and Empires may have a positive and negative effect on tolls on certain stargates and docking in certain stations. It will be interesting to see how this is put into effect. As for player owned corps being able to select an allegiance to a certain NPC faction or Empire this would be an interesting prospect. NPC conflict could be determined by players because of the financial and military clout a certain player corp. may have. This would also lead to more dramatic corp. wars IMO. One good example of this would be the RP Oracle and PIE conflict. Unfortunately their current conflict has no bearing on their native empires it would be interesting to see this change through the new ELO rate system...
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:17:00 -
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I've read somewhere that PIE and quafe is a real treat.
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