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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:50:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I don't particularly find "Anal" offensive, nor do I understand why it's at all relevant.
Its the topic of this thread Obviously. What's not relevant is my personal opinion on it in the context of your post.
But by all means, continue with your word play trolling. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:50:00 -
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So, someone who created a character using language a 9-year old boy might come up with finally got their name changed by CCP?
So what? Cry me a river OP, these buckets ain't gonna fill themselves. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
475
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:51:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Sometimes I think the human race is devolving rather than evolving.
I agree 100%
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:55:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I don't particularly find "Anal" offensive, nor do I understand why it's at all relevant.
Its the topic of this thread Obviously. What's not relevant is my personal opinion on it in the context of your post. But by all means, continue with your word play trolling.
If by "word play trolling" you mean putting forward a point of view that you haven't understood and are now trying to insult me for, then ok.
Considering you did say that personal opinion was the delinator of offensive, I should think that your opinion on the actual topic of the thread is very relevant.
If it isnt, your participation here is, by default, either to derail or to troll the thread. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:01:00 -
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I was going to post something. But CODE. knows why.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:01:00 -
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I was going to post something. But CODE. knows why.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
475
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:05:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:So taking offense at someone's name is meaningless because it imposes your values on that person?
How many people taking offense does it require before those values start to be worthwhile?
...and who decides what is worthwhile and what is not? If only 1 person takes offense, Im sure that 1 person still thinks his values worthwhile. Everyone believes their own values to be worthwhile, which is why it's silly to throw a bunch of words under the umbrella of "being offensive." I would wager a bet on the fact that most people who are offended by "bad words" only feel that way because they've been told all their lives that said words are indeed "bad" without giving any thought to the notion at all.
Personally, I don't believe any word to be "bad." I mean, cmon... "I pooped" is acceptable but "I just took a s**t" is not? How can one be bad and not the other if they both mean exactly the same thing? IMO people are way too easily offended, and we have an epidemic of people believing they have a "right" to not be offended. I find the notion quite offensive.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:05:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I don't particularly find "Anal" offensive, nor do I understand why it's at all relevant.
Its the topic of this thread Obviously. What's not relevant is my personal opinion on it in the context of your post. But by all means, continue with your word play trolling. If by "word play trolling" you mean putting forward a point of view that you haven't understood and are now trying to insult me for, then ok. Considering you did say that personal opinion was the delinator of offensive, I should think that your opinion on the actual topic of the thread is very relevant. If it isnt, your participation here is, by default, either to derail or to troll the thread. If that was a "point of view" then maybe you should follow the logic of the discussion a bit more instead of just throwing out whatever first comes to mind. You've said that when someone takes offense at something it is meaningless if it does not ascribe to a set of values you are defining. My own point of view is irrelevant, the flaw is in the logic of using a single person's value system as the definition against which all others should be judged. |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:09:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:So taking offense at someone's name is meaningless because it imposes your values on that person?
How many people taking offense does it require before those values start to be worthwhile? ...and who decides what is worthwhile and what is not? If only 1 person takes offense, Im sure that 1 person still thinks his values worthwhile. Everyone believes their own values to be worthwhile, which is why it's silly to throw a bunch of words under the umbrella of "being offensive." I would wager a bet on the fact that most people who are offended by "bad words" only feel that way because they've been told all their lives that said words are indeed "bad" without giving any thought to the notion at all. Personally, I don't believe any word to be "bad." I mean, cmon... "I pooped" is acceptable but "I just took a s**t" is not? How can one be bad and not the other if they both mean exactly the same thing? IMO people are way too easily offended, and we have an epidemic of people believing they have a "right" to not be offended. I find the notion quite offensive. I agree, but I think that CCP has to walk a fine line where they enforce words that the majority find offensive, yet not too many or they risk marginalizing those who value their freedom of expression more. Ultimately, it comes down to the personal gm decision based on petitions sent in by players, because there is no other way to get those moral definitions. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:11:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:You've said that when someone takes offense at something it is meaningless if it does not ascribe to a set of values you are defining.
No I didnt. Thats the third time you have tried to make that erroneous assumption now and the third time I have denied it.
You obviously have no wish to have an adult conversation about this, and all you seem to do is try to insult anyone who disagrees with you.
I have asked you directly about what you think of the thread, the OP and what is being discussed in order to put it into the context of what Im explaining, and this, according to you is "trolling".
I cant possibly begin to imagine what you qualify as as actual discussion given that basis, and so I can only conclude this derailment on your part is the purpose of this discussion. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:12:00 -
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Bah... most new players aren't easily scared off or naive.... they've played other games, mostly combat games, and aren't easily intimidated by the candyasses we know and love in EVE.
Nothing to worry about, aside from the ongoing "brain drain" in devs.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6029
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:16:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: 3. I've seen our resident troll, Mr Epeen, relentlessly pursue Anal through many of the ganking theads that have come and gone lately. And don't let him deny it.
I can't deny that I pursue anal with great enthusiasm.
On line, off line, the laundromat, pretty much anywhere I can find a willing bubble butt
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
241
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:19:00 -
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19B KM. Name Change. Friends Gone.
So go start a twitter war. we can smack talk, trash talk, bang down that door. I will own you with my strategies, and shame you with my skills. I will write that check your face canGÇÖt cash and make you pay the bills. IGÇÖll beat you all year long. So hereGÇÖs a tiny violin to play a sad sad song.
(Wish I didn't steal this. But just go. Oh did I do that.) The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:19:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:You've said that when someone takes offense at something it is meaningless if it does not ascribe to a set of values you are defining. No I didnt. Thats the third time you have tried to make that erroneous assumption now and the third time I have denied it. You obviously have no wish to have an adult conversation about this, and all you seem to do is try to insult anyone who disagrees with you. I have asked you directly about what you think of the thread, the OP and what is being discussed in order to put it into the context of what Im explaining, and this, according to you is "trolling". I cant possibly begin to imagine what you qualify as as actual discussion given that basis, and so I can only conclude this derailment on your part is the purpose of this discussion. You say you've denied it, yet I haven't seen you give a single bit of reasoning for it. You consistently pick out a single sentence of my argument and use that as if it was all I said and argue against it. You asked for my opinion in an obviously baiting manner and in a way that wasn't relevant to anything I said. I could care less whether this thread is derailed, but it's obvious having a reasonable discussion with you isn't possible. |
Talon SilverHawk
Ronin Cartel The G0dfathers
688
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:28:00 -
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In before the ...... Anal...
Tal |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6994
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:32:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: I cant possibly begin to imagine what you qualify as as actual discussion given that basis, and so I can only conclude this derailment on your part is the purpose of this discussion.
You say you've denied it, yet I haven't seen you give a single bit of reasoning for it. You consistently pick out a single sentence of my argument and use that as if it was all I said and argue against it. You mean the bit where you clearly havent understood what Ive said and get it backwards, then regurgitate it at me as if its what I said?
If I dont point that out, then Im hardly going to make a case based on what you think I said, am I?
Derrick Miles wrote: You asked for my opinion in an obviously baiting manner No, I asked for it so I could illustrate my point. Its what one does when you discuss things, you try to understand things from others point of view. You must have a persecution complex if you think people asking your opinion is baiting you or attempting to entrap you.
Derrick Miles wrote:and in a way that wasn't relevant to anything I said. It was relevant to the OP, the thread and the point I made that you disagreed with without understanding it.
Derrick Miles wrote:I could care less whether this thread is derailed, but it's obvious having a reasonable discussion with you isn't possible.
You mean you couldnt care less. And if you are admitting to attempting to derail it, then Ill be reporting you for it. And dont try to throw what I have said about your inability to discuss things in a sensible manner back at me, as this rant from you has just shown me exactly how well you debate anything; like a ranting 16 year old who isnt allowed the keys to the car, apparently. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:35:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote: I could care less whether this thread is derailed, but it's obvious having a reasonable discussion with you isn't possible.
Don't think it matters if the thread is derailed, it's already a bit of a train wreak.
Plus the topic is effectively talking about moderation. So I expect it'll get locked sooner or later. |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
6557
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:40:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I could care less whether this thread is derailed, but it's obvious having a reasonable discussion with you isn't possible. Don't think it matters if the thread is derailed, it's already a bit of a train wreak. Plus the topic is effectively talking about moderation. So I expect it'll get locked sooner or later. Yeah, I'm a bit surprised that ISD hasn't locked this one already actually. The title does grab one's attention. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:48:00 -
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I had to literally like, unlike and then like the op again to show how much I liked. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:53:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:This isn't a scenario where a week old character is reported with an offensive name, which i imagine happens fairly frequently. The individual here has had the same name for 7 years which, to put into perspective as others have mentioned, is longer than many employees have been working for CCP itself. This character has openly flown around and participated in new eden for over 85 months with no or minimum protest, objection, or grievance. Just because nobody reported him for 7 years, doesn't mean that the wasn't offensive. And what about the other 332 using the word 'anal' in their name? How long have they been around?
Actually I petitioned myself and CCP told me my name doesn't break the rules.
Sad panda. Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave
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Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
241
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:55:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:In before the ...... Anal...
Tal
Let's talk.
Big Spoon, I be. <3 The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:55:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:In before the ...... Anal...
Tal
Let's talk.
Big Spoon, I be. <3 The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
241
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:57:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:This isn't a scenario where a week old character is reported with an offensive name, which i imagine happens fairly frequently. The individual here has had the same name for 7 years which, to put into perspective as others have mentioned, is longer than many employees have been working for CCP itself. This character has openly flown around and participated in new eden for over 85 months with no or minimum protest, objection, or grievance. Just because nobody reported him for 7 years, doesn't mean that the wasn't offensive. And what about the other 332 using the word 'anal' in their name? How long have they been around? Actually I petitioned myself and CCP told me my name doesn't break the rules. Sad panda.
Of the roughly 500 that showed up, around 15oish were AnAlt. (of some form)
Made me laugh, but at I have no qualms about that. Just everyone else. WAIT! I think everyone needs to have whatever name they have pick to be reverted to a number & race! I can't wait to talk to CALDARI CITIZEN 11482952 about the show and or game last night! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:57:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Heavy Met4l Queen wrote:This isn't a scenario where a week old character is reported with an offensive name, which i imagine happens fairly frequently. The individual here has had the same name for 7 years which, to put into perspective as others have mentioned, is longer than many employees have been working for CCP itself. This character has openly flown around and participated in new eden for over 85 months with no or minimum protest, objection, or grievance. Just because nobody reported him for 7 years, doesn't mean that the wasn't offensive. And what about the other 332 using the word 'anal' in their name? How long have they been around? Actually I petitioned myself and CCP told me my name doesn't break the rules. Sad panda.
Of the roughly 500 that showed up, around 15oish were AnAlt. (of some form)
Made me laugh, but at I have no qualms about that. Just everyone else. WAIT! I think everyone needs to have whatever name they have pick to be reverted to a number & race! I can't wait to talk to CALDARI CITIZEN 11482952 about the show and or game last night! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4956
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:02:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Derrick Miles wrote: I could care less whether this thread is derailed, but it's obvious having a reasonable discussion with you isn't possible. Don't think it matters if the thread is derailed, it's already a bit of a train wreak. Plus the topic is effectively talking about moderation. So I expect it'll get locked sooner or later.
Dorrim did a sweep earlier and left this intact. There was some speculation as to why he might have done that... I don't think I'll be repeating my own suggestion just for the moment, not until I've decided whether I want to remain subbed or not. I'm on the fence at the moment. Been playing some Elite for a couple hours to check out the 1.4 Beta, which I realised I hadn't done yet. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Been playing some Elite for a couple hours to check out the 1.4 Beta, which I realised I hadn't done yet.
Is it free yet? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Novice Dryden
The Church of The Silver Flame
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:51:00 -
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Hi!
I don't want to open myself to discrimination. I suffer from a diagnosed personality disorder (ICD-10 F60.5). I suspect that with DSM V there are many diagnostic possibilities for me.
But now I am prepared to take a dictionary... and search every single maybe offensive character name... and submit an original, individual ticket.
Because the LAW is the LAW... and when one person can get in trouble for something... then everyone can get in trouble for it.
(Plus I saw a lot of people using "BOOBS" for their character name. Here in my mother's basement I don't have a lot of access to BOOBS... so that must be why the feminists are against me focussing too much on BOOBS! Praise Equality).
So this weekend will be spent petitioning offensive names. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:56:00 -
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MrHands Perforated Bowel
This is your new name. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.12 14:22:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: Not so sure about ISD Ezwal, though. I always strive to be unbiased as can be, so I don't mind one way or the other. What I do mind is the fact this is in essence a blatant attack at a GM decision, something which is quite against the forum rules.
Thread locked.
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.
12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.09.13 00:31:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:2. Its self-evident that our Community Leader, CCP Falcon, is a big fan of Anal.
Just saw this and had to chip in on this thread... that's a bit personal...
In after the lock.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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