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Apoc Cypher	Posted - 2006.08.02 05:17:00 - [1] Firstly; There was a post (its a few pages back now) on cyclone fittings for level 3 missions. My skills as far as hybrid and projectile turrets are about equal (but still need work, still no T2). Having recently been doing L2 w/my thorax, I've fallen in love with my blasters, I'm having a little trouble deciding, though the brutix may be the way I go, since my armor tanking is better than my shield. So, setups please?
Talori'i Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.02 06:16:00 - [2] For my brutix, before I lost it on Mordus Headhunters deadspace... setup was... Hi: 5x 250mm Compressed Coil Railguns, 2x Tractor Beams Mids: 10 MN AB II, 3x Cap Rechargers(Best you can afford) Lows: MAR II, 2x-3x Active Hardeners, 1x-2x Mag Field Stab II. Usually used antimatter. damage of roughly 130 average per shot. Tried blasters, and tried 6x 200mm Rails. the range sucked though. 4 8 15 16 23 42
Lola Scout	Posted - 2006.08.02 06:33:00 - [3] Brutix set up which worked v well for me: 1 Med Nos 6 Med Blasters (Modal Ions if you can get them) Stasis Web ABII 3 * F-b10 capacitor rechargers 2 Medium armour repairs II and T2 energised plating(mission specific) T2 medium drones Some ppl will probably tell u that this is a bit defensive (?) 'cos I dont have any stablisers in the lows, but I found that it worked well. And blasters are MUCH more exciting than effing railguns ;-) Cheers Mike
Nice View	Posted - 2006.08.02 06:40:00 - [4] Talori'i's setup is pretty close to my setup before I switched ships. Hi: 6x 250mm Prototype Railguns, 1x Tractor Beam Mids: 10 MN AB II, 3x F-a10 Capacitor Rechargers Lows: 1x MAR II, 2x Active Hardeners (rat specific), 1x Internal Force Field Array I (damage control) and 1x Mag Field Stab II. The Internal Force Field is really nice since not only does it give 14% resistance to all armor but also gives 58% across the board for hull too. Just incase
Talori'i Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.02 08:21:00 - [5] Originally by: Nice View Talori'i's setup is pretty close to my setup before I switched ships. Hi: 6x 250mm Prototype Railguns, 1x Tractor Beam Mids: 10 MN AB II, 3x F-a10 Capacitor Rechargers Lows: 1x MAR II, 2x Active Hardeners (rat specific), 1x Internal Force Field Array I (damage control) and 1x Mag Field Stab II. The Internal Force Field is really nice since not only does it give 14% resistance to all armor but also gives 58% across the board for hull too. Just incase I am actually trying to figure out how that fits. But I don't think you can fit 6x 250mm Rails without an RCU. 4 8 15 16 23 42
Depko	Posted - 2006.08.02 09:38:00 - [6] I strongly reccomend you to use Dominix in lvl3 missions. I assume you have just the basic skills, otherwise you would use a BS in lvl3. With basic skills you will be not able to complete some harder lvl3 missions. The best thing you can do in lvl3 missions is to be aligned to warp out instantly after hitting 50% of armor.
Nice View	Posted - 2006.08.02 10:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Talori'i Originally by: Nice View Talori'i's setup is pretty close to my setup before I switched ships. Hi: 6x 250mm Prototype Railguns, 1x Tractor Beam Mids: 10 MN AB II, 3x F-a10 Capacitor Rechargers Lows: 1x MAR II, 2x Active Hardeners (rat specific), 1x Internal Force Field Array I (damage control) and 1x Mag Field Stab II. The Internal Force Field is really nice since not only does it give 14% resistance to all armor but also gives 58% across the board for hull too. Just incase I am actually trying to figure out how that fits. But I don't think you can fit 6x 250mm Rails without an RCU. Like I said was a config a bit ago, maybe I missed something but I am pretty sure that this fits, the seven 250mm was the one that needed the RCU I believe. I will try and get over to the base my Brutix is at and check. Originally by: Depko I strongly reccomend you to use Dominix in lvl3 missions. I assume you have just the basic skills, otherwise you would use a BS in lvl3. With basic skills you will be not able to complete some harder lvl3 missions. The best thing you can do in lvl3 missions is to be aligned to warp out instantly after hitting 50% of armor. Way over-kill using a Domi, I was able to do some lvl3 when I tried in a Domi without even getting into armor and I was NOT Shield tanking. I switched to a Ferox for lvl3 for a more challenge.
Celeste Storm Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Celeste Storm on 02/08/2006 12:36:27 Originally by: Nice View Way over-kill using a Domi, I was able to do some lvl3 when I tried in a Domi without even getting into armor and I was NOT Shield tanking. I switched to a Ferox for lvl3 for a more challenge. tbh, i dont think that most people do L3 missions for the challenge, but for cash and LP. If u seek challenge rat in 0.0 Syndicate.
Depko	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Celeste Storm Edited by: Celeste Storm on 02/08/2006 12:36:27 Originally by: Nice View Way over-kill using a Domi, I was able to do some lvl3 when I tried in a Domi without even getting into armor and I was NOT Shield tanking. I switched to a Ferox for lvl3 for a more challenge. tbh, i dont think that most people do L3 missions for the challenge, but for cash and LP. If u seek challenge rat in 0.0 Syndicate. I think you dont want to run SOME lvl3 missions, but ALL including the hardest and most PROFITABLE. I nearly lost my Dominix trying a new lvl3 mission after one of the patches. It was a Portal To War 2/5 and my friend lost a Tempest BS there ! I think you strongly underestimate lvl3 missions, or you are just picking up some very special easy cases of lvl3 and present them like all lvl3 are so easy. I have helped people doing lvl3 inBrutix, because they couln't solo it.
Krayd Devre	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:58:00 - [10] This is my brutix setup in which I was able to solo all lvl3's I encountered (not a few), without any problems . -HIGH- 200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [80xThorium Charge M] 200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [80xThorium Charge M] 200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [80xThorium Charge M] 200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [80xThorium Charge M] 200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [80xThorium Charge M] 150mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [40xAntimatter Charge S] 150mm Prototype I Gauss Gun [40xAntimatter Charge S] -MED- 10MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator -LOW- N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I N-Type Explosive Hardener I Medium Armor Repairer II 800mm Rolled Tungsten Plates I 5x Hammerhead I I was a bit dissappointed by the damage output, but still worked very good for me. May be a bit expensive with 7 proto-guns, that's why I went 'scout' instead. /Krayd
Shadowace Evi	Posted - 2006.08.02 16:57:00 - [11] sorry for the semi offtopic and very n00bquestion here but, how do armor hardeners work? is it something that turns on and gives you 50% protection to that type? and what types of damage do you run into most?
Tryptic Photon Gallente Asgard Protectorate Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.02 18:23:00 - [12] my brutix uber-tank hi - 4x 250mm Proto Rails, 3 150mm Proto Rails mid - all cap rechargers (eutectic or t2 if possible) low - 2x MAR2, 2x Active Hardeners (best named or t2), 1x named cap power relay add drones Gets your recharge time down to 162 sec. I can run both reppers or 1 repper + rails indefinitely, or everything for a very long time.
Krayd Devre	Posted - 2006.08.02 18:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Shadowace Evi sorry for the semi offtopic and very n00bquestion here but, how do armor hardeners work? is it something that turns on and gives you 50% protection to that type? and what types of damage do you run into most? yes, that's exactly what they do. What type you run in to depends on what npc's you're fighting. That's why you should switch hardeners to match your enemy, and maybe to balance your ship's natural resistances.
Roche Pso Gallente Dark Side Technologies New-Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.02 20:21:00 - [14] Edited by: Roche Pso on 02/08/2006 20:24:42 Edited by: Roche Pso on 02/08/2006 20:21:31 Originally by: Celeste Storm Edited by: Celeste Storm on 02/08/2006 12:36:27 I think you dont want to run SOME lvl3 missions, but ALL including the hardest and most PROFITABLE. I nearly lost my Dominix trying a new lvl3 mission after one of the patches. It was a Portal To War 2/5 and my friend lost a Tempest BS there ! I think you strongly underestimate lvl3 missions, or you are just picking up some very special easy cases of lvl3 and present them like all lvl3 are so easy. I have helped people doing lvl3 inBrutix, because they couln't solo it. I am with Nice View on this, Domis are way too much for a lvl 3, I used to solo them all in my Brutix, at first some gave me problems but as skills came up they all became much easier. My setup was something like: 6x 200mm compressed coil, 1 x tractor beam (for looting) T2 AB, webber, 2x cap chargers T2 MAR, cap thingy, 3x energised plating 5x Hammerhead II At the end I had dumped the webber for another cap charger cos the hammerhead II makes such short work of any close up frigates. I now use an Ishkur, solo, and have had no real problems with any lvl 3 missions, including Portal to war, how you managed to almost lose a Domi on it I dont know.
Cosian	Posted - 2006.08.02 20:38:00 - [15] I too initially lost a Brutix on Mordus which was my first level 3....and frankly I hated the big ugly for quite some time unti I got a couple skills up and figured out the fittings....now I really like it.. I have decent drone skill which helps quite a bit and is a key part of fighting with the Brutix. My other skills aren't all that good but I run good Tech 1 equipement HIGHS 7 Modal Ion Accelerator Cannons - It's short range but with the Webber it work -or- 4 Modal 250mm Proto Gauss and 3 Dual 150 proto gauss - It might be 3 and 4 the other way around .... have not used the rail setup but sometime depending on the mission I do MIDS 2 Eutectic Cap Rechargers Tech 2 AB or MWD Fleeting Webber LOWS Medium Accomodation Vestment Repper Internal Force Field Array 2 Appropriate N-Type Armor Hardeners For the mission Local Hull Conversion NanoFiber Structure The nanofiber made a big diff....at least it feels like it did....the Brut handles much nicer now and the extra speed helps with engaging with my blasters
Cosian	Posted - 2006.08.02 20:39:00 - [16] Oh and I run the appropriate Tech 2 Drones ....... with the above setup
Talori'i Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.02 23:38:00 - [17] The only way I can see losing a Domi in Portal to War is by waiting for the fleet to show up. 4 8 15 16 23 42
Nice View	Posted - 2006.08.03 03:48:00 - [18] Talori'i was right I guess I did use a RCU with that setup. I thought I didn't but for six 250mm rails I would drop the Mag stab II and add the RCU. Before the damage control boost a few patches back I didn't use them much, not I use them in most of my setups. Also I have done all Lvl 3 missions in a Ferox since the last patch several times. Before a Ferox was a harder ship to use since I was all Rail trained and only small missile, now that I trained up missiles and shields, the Ferox is a walk in the park to do lvl 3 missions for me. The Brutix would be a tougher ship to run the missions in, I may have to try the "improved" missions in a brutix and see.
Dorque	Posted - 2006.08.03 05:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Roche Pso Edited by: Roche Pso on 02/08/2006 20:24:42 Edited by: Roche Pso on 02/08/2006 20:21:31 Originally by: Celeste Storm Edited by: Celeste Storm on 02/08/2006 12:36:27 I think you dont want to run SOME lvl3 missions, but ALL including the hardest and most PROFITABLE. I nearly lost my Dominix trying a new lvl3 mission after one of the patches. It was a Portal To War 2/5 and my friend lost a Tempest BS there ! I think you strongly underestimate lvl3 missions, or you are just picking up some very special easy cases of lvl3 and present them like all lvl3 are so easy. I have helped people doing lvl3 inBrutix, because they couln't solo it. I am with Nice View on this, Domis are way too much for a lvl 3, I used to solo them all in my Brutix, at first some gave me problems but as skills came up they all became much easier. My setup was something like: 6x 200mm compressed coil, 1 x tractor beam (for looting) T2 AB, webber, 2x cap chargers T2 MAR, cap thingy, 3x energised plating 5x Hammerhead II At the end I had dumped the webber for another cap charger cos the hammerhead II makes such short work of any close up frigates. I now use an Ishkur, solo, and have had no real problems with any lvl 3 missions, including Portal to war, how you managed to almost lose a Domi on it I dont know. Im gonna try this setup when the time comes, what ammo are you using?

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