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An Obvious Spy
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:36:00 -
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Good day fellow capsuleers,
I've been playing Eve Online for quite some time now and even though I've been a highsec carebear and lucky enough not to get ganked while hauling and trading, I've heard lots about the evil things a bunch of bad people calling themselves goons do (suicide ganking, scamming, and even squashing content for small elite skilled pvp alliances in null security space). That, together with having read some of the in depth analysis on Gevlon Goblin's Blog has made me very concerned that goons could be a threat to the future of the game if they continue to terrorise other capsuleers unchecked.
Mordus Angels, a smaller null security space alliance with excellent killboard stats (seriously go check out on zkill!) has been waging war on the goonies and their allies for several year according to what I've heard, similar to the Marmite Collective in high sec space, and now claim to be goonie killer no. 1 in null sec space.
I saw their alliance donation board (http://mordusangels.net/index.php/donate) and would have been very happy to donate some of my hard earned iskies to their cause. But doing my due diligence, I looked at who else had donated isk and was shocked to see lots of goonies and goon allies had donated! Out of currently 52 people on the donation board, 26 (50%!) are from either Goonswarm Federation or an alliance from the Clusterf*ck Coalition (CFC)! They have even donated as much as over 50 million, and in one case even a very high sum of 420 million isk per donating capsuleer! No reasonable capsuleer would ever donate that much to an actual declared enemy.
As a result, I am deeply worried that Mordus Angels might just be another scheme by the goons to funnel money into their internal pvp while continuing to choke the life out of any who will not join them. My suspicions are deepened by the revelation that, in the past, Mordus Angels were even a member of the CFC at one point! I will not donate to them unless Mordus Angels can prove they are not, in fact, a goon front.
I hope these potentially scandalous revelations are interesting to any fellow capsuleer who wishes to limit the activities of the goons.
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
849
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:51:00 -
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Move along people. Nothing to see here. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6400
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:52:00 -
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Er, what. That can't possibly be the case.
Granted, it seems that recently goons have been all over their "home" and running "their" missions (providing you with the wonderful Barghest and so on) but it's just because anyone can dock at npc stations, there's nothing about it. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Iain Cariaba
313
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:53:00 -
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An Obvious Spy wrote:Doesn-¦t my tinfoil hat look pretty? I lol'd so hard at this.
With the trillions of Ian the goons make every month from rents and r64 moons, do you really think the few hundred million Morris Angels gets makes a difference? Or could, just possibly, a few goons that like to stay near home in VFK felt like giving some srp funds to the people they fight with who live next door? Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |

Naomi Niktos
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:58:00 -
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I categorically deny having anything to do with Mordus Angels. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2113
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Posted - 2014.09.14 01:21:00 -
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Confirming. |

Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
298
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Posted - 2014.09.14 02:04:00 -
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Well the GSF team camping the station was offering to help MoA with recruitment paperwork as well as selling departure permits. |

Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2014.09.14 02:50:00 -
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420 million ISK donation, that seems highly irregular of Goonswarm members. |

Zack Santana
Rubella Solaris Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2014.09.14 03:22:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:420 million ISK donation, that seems highly irregular of Goonswarm members.
I laughed pretty good here! |

Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1321
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Posted - 2014.09.14 05:26:00 -
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Give-a-fuc!kometer rating for goon "front" corps = 0.0
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
870
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Posted - 2014.09.14 06:37:00 -
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/facepalms
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Jan Siri Anaplion
Ring 3
0
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Posted - 2014.09.14 08:43:00 -
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I am deeply concerned about the lack of any official MOA response to this. Are goons trying to bury this story? As a wise man once said, everything is a trap, so we should be very careful who we funnel our money to. Setting up businesses under false banners is a well known danger. |

Geenemen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.09.14 10:03:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:An Obvious Spy wrote:Doesn-¦t my tinfoil hat look pretty? I lol'd so hard at this. With the trillions of Ian the goons make every month from rents and r64 moons, do you really think the few hundred million Morris Angels gets makes a difference? Or could, just possibly, a few goons that like to stay near home in VFK felt like giving some srp funds to the people they fight with who live next door?
Trillions of Ian? Morris Angels? Do you even proofread what you spew out? |

Buddy Scrap
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.09.14 11:24:00 -
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Morris Angels are a little known offshoot of Mordus, specializing in traditional English dancing rather than PvP. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1231
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Posted - 2014.09.14 13:53:00 -
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WARR !!!
Sorry, I just like shouting war  YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
822
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Posted - 2014.09.14 16:08:00 -
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Blah blah CFC blah blah war, I believe an angel Nestor died in uedama thanks to Pursuit of Happiness |

MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
20
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Posted - 2014.09.14 22:39:00 -
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Ummm ....
I swear the people in this game ...
OK.... let me explain....
the goons..... like to troll.... and in this case they like their names showing up on our donation board.... why.... cause they are goons and thats the kind of stuff they do. Now as far as them giving us isk....awesome send us more. They do it to be trolls however not to be nice in any way, or really help us.
I can with 100% certainty tell you ..that we MOA (Mordus angels) are ANTI goon and ANTI CFC , and we use the isk to kill goons and the CFC
if our kill boards do not show and prove that too you..well I dont know what will.
Mass
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whaynethepain
68
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Posted - 2014.09.14 23:22:00 -
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Yea, whatever.
I once joined Mordus Legion just when they begged a system sov holding, for their minning fleets, and were part of the CFC.
CFC kicked Mordus, because they dropped sov from funds issues.
Now Mordus are sworn to let someone know, they didn't want that space anyhow.
Getting you on your feet.
So you've further to fall. |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
870
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Posted - 2014.09.15 01:20:00 -
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Geenemen wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:An Obvious Spy wrote:Doesn-¦t my tinfoil hat look pretty? I lol'd so hard at this. With the trillions of Ian the goons make every month from rents and r64 moons, do you really think the few hundred million Morris Angels gets makes a difference? Or could, just possibly, a few goons that like to stay near home in VFK felt like giving some srp funds to the people they fight with who live next door? Trillions of Ian? Morris Angels? Do you even proofread what you spew out? I'm so pleased someone else picked up that. I bet he's on his phone and auto correct hahaha Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2014.09.15 06:05:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:I can with 100% certainty tell you ..that we MOA (Mordus angels) are ANTI goon and ANTI CFC , and we use the isk to kill goons and the CFC
if our kill boards do not show and prove that too you..well I dont know what will.
Killing goons just confirms that you're a Goon agent because that's exactly what a Goon would do
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
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Neo Kathura
New Order of Highsec
27
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Posted - 2014.09.15 07:02:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:Ummm ....
I swear the people in this game ...
OK.... let me explain....
the goons..... like to troll.... and in this case they like their names showing up on our donation board.... why.... cause they are goons and thats the kind of stuff they do. Now as far as them giving us isk....awesome send us more. They do it to be trolls however not to be nice in any way, or really help us.
I can with 100% certainty tell you ..that we MOA (Mordus angels) are ANTI goon and ANTI CFC , and we use the isk to kill goons and the CFC
if our kill boards do not show and prove that too you..well I dont know what will.
Mass Giving people loads of isk is trolling? I wish people would troll me.
CFC boards also shows lots of goon kills every month. Mordus Angels was once a part of the CFC. It stands to reason that MOA was set up as an independent looking wing of the CFC to run missions in Mordus space for faction rewards seemingly anti-CFC so that anti-CFC folks leave them alone and to generate light pvp content with the CFC for both sides. With goblin making such a spectacle of MOA setting up a donation board to funnel more isk from anti-CFC types straight into the CFC coffers is a genius move.
Some of us can see through your lies, goon scum. |

Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
54
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Posted - 2014.09.15 10:15:00 -
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It's true. Mordus Angels are actually controlled by the Goons, like a puppet master to a marionette. It's all a nefarious plot concocted by The Mittens himself in order to ruin your game. |

Iain Cariaba
322
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Posted - 2014.09.15 10:24:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Geenemen wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:An Obvious Spy wrote:Doesn-¦t my tinfoil hat look pretty? I lol'd so hard at this. With the trillions of Ian the goons make every month from rents and r64 moons, do you really think the few hundred million Morris Angels gets makes a difference? Or could, just possibly, a few goons that like to stay near home in VFK felt like giving some srp funds to the people they fight with who live next door? Trillions of Ian? Morris Angels? Do you even proofread what you spew out? I'm so pleased someone else picked up that. I bet he's on his phone and auto correct hahaha That would be correct. My apologies for the auto-correct SNAFU. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |

Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
112
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Posted - 2014.09.15 11:44:00 -
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Maybe those gewn members like people who actually take the time to fly in the middle of the north and bring the fight to them.
Content creation. |

Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.09.16 16:07:00 -
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Be quiet, everyone. You are ruining our plans -á |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20759
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:52:00 -
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Buddy Scrap wrote:Morris Angels are a little known offshoot of Mordus, specializing in traditional English dancing rather than PvP. Can they do strange and terrible things with a simple handkerchief and a bell?
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |

Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
337
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:28:00 -
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An Obvious Spy wrote:
As a result, I am deeply worried that Mordus Angels might just be another scheme by the goons to funnel money into their internal pvp while continuing to choke the life out of any who will not join them.
Really....
52 pilots donating an average of 50 mil isk.
MA used to be blue to goons. Seems more likely that it's old friends giving a pat on the shoulder for all the "gudfites" than some kind of secret Goon conspiracy.
I think you would probably choke on your own tongue if you had any idea of all what kind of a budget Goons actually work with. 2.6 billion isk is to them like throwing a penny into a wishing pond would be to you or me.
T-
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:44:00 -
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They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6183
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Posted - 2014.09.17 10:05:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
Man that's some really basic math that you managed to get wrong. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Maneck StreetPreacher
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.09.17 10:53:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
I don't afraid of anybody. |
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1331
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:01:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
******* idiot. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |

Buddy Scrap
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:36:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
I don't maths or afraid yo? |

Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
406
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:11:00 -
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Buddy Scrap wrote:Morris Angels are a little known offshoot of Mordus, specializing in traditional English dancing rather than PvP. Where do I sign up? Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |

Saeger1737
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
826
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:57:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Buddy Scrap wrote:Morris Angels are a little known offshoot of Mordus, specializing in traditional English dancing rather than PvP. Where do I sign up? Also thanks to the OP for giving me a good chuckle while I drink my coffee. Better have a higher IQ then some of the MoA pilots I've seen... Kennedy Assassination |

alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:13:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:I can with 100% certainty tell you ..that we MOA (Mordus angels) are ANTI goon and ANTI CFC , and we use the isk to kill goons and the CFC
if our kill boards do not show and prove that too you..well I dont know what will.
Mass
I have read stories about madeup disputes and "divorces" between corporation and alliance mates for the intent of infiltration.
You have been a proud member serving under the banner of the CFC as little as 3 years ago. How do we know this is not some elaborate scam to funnel isks to GSF leadership?
Can you point to any serious actions like killing a CSAA, taking some highend moons or perhaps infiltrating and stealing large sums of money? Killmails are a dime a dozen in a pvp game who knew |

Iain Cariaba
332
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Posted - 2014.09.17 19:23:00 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Buddy Scrap wrote:Morris Angels are a little known offshoot of Mordus, specializing in traditional English dancing rather than PvP. Where do I sign up? Also thanks to the OP for giving me a good chuckle while I drink my coffee. Better have a higher IQ then some of the MoA pilots I've seen... Kennedy Assassination durr, let's fly PvE ships in highsec during wartime Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |

Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
227
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Posted - 2014.09.18 07:49:00 -
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prolly because of the fuckton of CFC alts in mordus angels to ***** on Mordus Faction LP. 
and mordus thinking they achieve something with their powerpoint buddies :p
http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |

Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
60
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:26:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
lmao
Luwc wrote:prolly because of the fuckton of CFC alts in mordus angels to ***** on Mordus Faction LP.  and mordus thinking they achieve something with their powerpoint buddies :p
Nice try, goon alt. I think we've all caught on to your mind games now. |

Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
76
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:04:00 -
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Check out their pro pilot 1John Kennedy1. He lost 3 machariels worth 3 bil each in less than 2 hours. Not sure how much obvious it has to be that you are being stalked. |

Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4274
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:21:00 -
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Are MOA imploding? Certainly seems that way. Considering TEST did the same, it places more weight on the idea that a donation board is a sign of critical distress. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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CyberRaver
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:56:00 -
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Confirming we are all Mordus agents. you got us
Also yeah they so seem to be on a slope, anyone fancy skiing?
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MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
25
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Posted - 2014.09.18 21:13:00 -
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one corp was booted due to trolls, the other left cause of a troll , and one corp legitimately left so they can use thier supers and caps more however this was known months ago.
We are mostly mature players and do not allow "teenager" type trolling in alliance. Unfortunately that means some corps are not compatible in all cases.
Thats the truth of the matter , not that you want to hear it.
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.09.19 01:50:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:They troll with lot of small donations. They do it to prove "we don't afraid of MoA" (we just camp an NPC station because it's so much fun)
They donated less than 5% of the total 28B. Hint: 1x6B > 100x50M
I don't know how you managed do it, but everything you have in that poorly articulated post is wrong. A token force of alts of ours keep a camp up in 5Z, which caused strife within MoA and started to bleed it out of corps and members.
MoA does not impose fear in any null entity I know of. Rather, the emotion MoA tends to impose through it's sheer existence is laughter. Ask any pilot belonging to a serious sov holder in null of their opinion of MoA.
Our donations are a mockery. We are well aware that a few billion ISK every month going to MoA's coffers will not make MoA competent or relevant. The reason MoA does not have power, assets, sov and relevance isn't that they lack ISK. Rather, they lack the vision, the strategy, general competence at the base level and a good management. All of these weaknesses combined tends to create a result such as MoA. |

Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.09.19 01:54:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:one corp was booted due to trolls, the other left cause of a troll , and one corp legitimately left so they can use thier supers and caps more however this was known months ago.
We are mostly mature players and do not allow "teenager" type trolling in alliance. Unfortunately that means some corps are not compatible in all cases.
Thats the truth of the matter , not that you want to hear it.
It is like a riddle when you put it like that.
One corp booted - Due to troll Other corp left - Due to troll One corp left - Legit 5Z permacamped - Due to troll
However, anybody following internal MoA communication and members only MoA forums could tell that line membership of MoA is raging hard due to their ability to base in 5Z is permanently hindered.
Kudos for the attempt to avoid losing face though. |

Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.09.19 01:59:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Are MoA imploding? Certainly seems that way. Considering TEST did the same, it places more weight on the idea that a donation board is a sign of critical distress.
Funny how a certain personality laughed at and scammed in the past because of ideas such as donation boards has been King Midas in reverse with TEST in the past and now with MoA..
Everything he touches turns to solid human bio-waste. |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.10.06 09:44:00 -
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I catagorically deny all allegations Mordus Angels is made up of goon alts setting up this scheme to extract money from high sec capsuleers. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.*Snip* *Snip*-áPlease refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.*Snip* *Snip*-áRemoved part of the post for not having enough pssssshhhhhh. ISD Ezwal.-á*Snip* |

Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
810
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Posted - 2014.10.06 13:12:00 -
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CyberRaver wrote:Confirming we are all Mordus agents. you got us
But you promised that we were the only goon alt corps!  |
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