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Krychton
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Edward Sarum The lamest part of this entire post is that you have to brag of your supposed victory because you did not win enough for all to know without being told.
TRUE victory is slef evident and does not need words to show it. Only the lame or the whipped use words to tell how"great" they feel they are. Revan you truly are a legend in your own mind, enjoy the delusions.
I think she brags about it because she knows it gets under your skin. Thats the intended part, judging by your response I'd say she can claim victory on that aswell. ----
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Edward Sarum
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:34:00 -
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In truth she does not get under my skin, I pity her. I pray for the day God will heal her delusions and let her see reality again. I only hope my attemtps to point at that reality can reach beyond the demon that possesses her and to the Amarr that is beneath..
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Krychton
Thats the intended part, judging by your response I'd say she can claim victory on that aswell.
Why, oh WHY did I refute the propeganda!!
Hot damn, victory is easy these days...
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Shayna BaoWolfe
Caldari Star Adder Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Krychton Those very words show how clueless you are to what is happening. You should leave the station a little more often. You'd be amazed to how much progress we have made in Bleak, and now Domain.
We have avenged the Covenant in Bleak, and now continue the crusade against Amarr Loyalist/supporters.
Krychon,
I do not see anyone slurring the Blood Inquisition here. If anything they are praising you and giving your pilots respect. Noone has claimed that BL-IN have not been active in the bleak - though I understand, as always, there are disputes over effectiveness and results. What would pod-pilots do if they could ever agree?
Now, Your comment quoted above suggests however that you link the talk about Verisum Family and percieved slights against the movement you represent.
Are we to understand that the Blood Inquisition is now formally allied with the Verisum Family in a reciprocal relationship?
Else is there some other reason you feel that the failure of Verisum Family to provide any meaningful change to the astro-political geography of the Bleak Lands means that your movement is no longer respected?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:44:00 -
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last weekend Intaki Union flew a small fleet of 20 Battleships/Cruisers class vessles into Providence.
Linkage
after low sec patrols we set up camp in r3-k7k and waited for the mighty Verisum Family forces. the few that came left very quickly, and just between us all here flying around in an interceptor or two (how'd you like my interdictor sphere?) does not mean you "own" space.
Further over the entire weekend the only fights were a few small skirmishes in Shatogas and surrounding area. Verisum has no real presence there while Aegis Militia, CVA and PIE are a constant presence. They were so few in fact we missed most of the fights
As to Blood Inquisition, they do seem to have a presence in the low sec of BleakLands near providence. But they are not of a significant number.
what is concerning to me is Sieesa's new technology that allowed her Navy Apoc to not just cloak, but truly vanish from space after being engaged and knocked to structure and in less than 15 minutes...we wish to know about this technology.
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Krychton
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shayna BaoWolfe
Originally by: Krychton Those very words show how clueless you are to what is happening. You should leave the station a little more often. You'd be amazed to how much progress we have made in Bleak, and now Domain.
We have avenged the Covenant in Bleak, and now continue the crusade against Amarr Loyalist/supporters.
Krychon,
I do not see anyone slurring the Blood Inquisition here. If anything they are praising you and giving your pilots respect. Noone has claimed that BL-IN have not been active in the bleak - though I understand, as always, there are disputes over effectiveness and results. What would pod-pilots do if they could ever agree?
Now, Your comment quoted above suggests however that you link the talk about Verisum Family and percieved slights against the movement you represent.
Are we to understand that the Blood Inquisition is now formally allied with the Verisum Family in a reciprocal relationship?
Else is there some other reason you feel that the failure of Verisum Family to provide any meaningful change to the astro-political geography of the Bleak Lands means that your movement is no longer respected?
I admire your attempt in twisting my words, although I never stated that Blood Inquisition is allied with VF. We share the same enemies I assume, but we have two entirely different agendas.
As for respect, that all depends on you. I don't expect anyone to respect anything. Believe it or not I do respect honesty. I've seen VF determined to accomplish their goals, and they have.
I do respect those who i've met on the field of battle. PIE especially, who actually undocked to defend their honor and space.
You can take that however you want, propaganda, lies, unholy. It doesn't really make a difference. ----
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/08/2006 14:14:37
Originally by: Krychton I've seen VF determined to accomplish their goals, and they have.
VF have accomplished their goals?
Have we ever even received a straight answer as to what their goals actually are?
VF reminds me of an archer who fires an arrow and then paints a target around where it hits, before shouting "Look, I scored a bullseye!"
The only difference is that VF still manage to paint the target in the wrong place.
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Petrus Illyusanov
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Quote: when I engage everyone knows that I stay to kill or die. I don't use wcs and I dont warp even in blobs of 8x1 as it has happened
Please teach your cunning fighting tactics to all of your race.
*Petrus, sits at his work table scanning the news feed while waiting for his crews status report*
'Hmmm...there was nothing here last time I checked now...oh right all the usual people saying more of the usual things.'
*He pauses at the above one, reads it, reads it again, a wide grin breaking out, a moment later there is a loud thump as he falls over laughing hard and holding his sides*
'MAKER...ohh...MAKER...that is...BRILLANT! Priceless even.
*After getting the chair and self back into normal position he flips to a different topic sure that nothing else said can compare*
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Krychton I've seen VF determined to accomplish their goals, and they have.
No, they haven't.
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Amandi Casimi
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:35:00 -
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I would like to point out that Revan has NOT reached her goals. When she delcared war, she listed 3 very specific goals with her war on Aegis Militia, which she did not meet. I will go over them.
1. Have Admiral Graylin leave Aegis Militia. 2. Have Admiral Graylin appologize to VF for some comments or something. 3. Have Admiral Graylin's corpse delivered to Revan's hanger somewhere.
Lets see... all have failed.
So... no matter how many ships you claim to have killed, or how much ISK you think you cost AM/PIE/CVA, you still have not won. And they are correct Revan, Omnicient Order is NOT Verisum Family. They are a group of highly skilled, and EXTREMELY well paid mercs. We have had some good battles against them. Losing some, winning some. Hard to say the same about Verisum family. I think we won all those.
And honestly Revan, Omnicient Order with all their pilots are barely a nuicance when you compare them to previous pirates we have had in the area. The Sudden Death Squad gave us more problems then you guys do.
Here is my challenge to you Revan. Make real friends. I wanna see if Verisum Family can survive more then a week without any mercs to come help you.
Let neutrals be neutrals.
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Amandi Casimi
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:37:00 -
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And oh... having your hired thugs attack neutrals in our space is lame. If you want to hurt us, fight us. Attacking non-combatants shows that you have become nothing but pirates.
I checked this morning... Verisum Family in all their might has 75 members now.
Let neutrals be neutrals.
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Sieesa
Amarr Liberated Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:13:00 -
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Quote: what is concerning to me is Sieesa's new technology that allowed her Navy Apoc to not just cloak, but truly vanish from space after being engaged and knocked to structure and in less than 15 minutes...we wish to know about this technology.
A cheap trick, I fully admit, but I knew why everyone was there. Normally, I don't have a problem fighting, or even dying, it "has" happened before. However, at that moment, I decided to deny the very thing that a lot of people gatherred there desired most. Probably not even my death specifically, but the removal of my ship. I have bigger concerns on my mind than integrity or honor at this moment, and so I freely admit that I "cheated"..... I do appologize to all those "friends" of mine that I have disappointed, but in the end everythign will be better, you will see....everything will be better...
And for clarification, heavensong did not enter structure...or at least not entirely, she had about 1/16th armor remaining. Not really important, but necessary for accurate accounting.
Sieesa Morgan.
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Krychton
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Krychton I've seen VF determined to accomplish their goals, and they have.
No, they haven't.
I don't speak for VF, nor do I care what their objectives where. Although I can see how something like that maybe hard to achieve. After all, all Graelyn had to do is sit back and allow his brethren bare his sins. I believe thats what happen, thats what caused so many to leave AM. No direction, and a failed command. AM can call that a victory, I call it a disgrace. ----
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Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Krychton
Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Krychton I've seen VF determined to accomplish their goals, and they have.
No, they haven't.
I don't speak for VF, nor do I care what their objectives where. Although I can see how something like that maybe hard to achieve. After all, all Graelyn had to do is sit back and allow his brethren bare his sins. I believe thats what happen, thats what caused so many to leave AM. No direction, and a failed command. AM can call that a victory, I call it a disgrace.
For a person who doesn't speak for them, you're incredibly vocal.
Graelyn's been online and working just as all of us in AM have. His support ships have been used to great effect in AM's engagements with pirates in the bleak lands.
As for the leadership, it's still fairly solid. Of course you commenting on this is the height of hippocrassy considering that a large number of active pilots staged a coup against your own CEO and splintered away.
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Aran Cole
Minmatar Xerxes Enterprises Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:30:00 -
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This is rich. I invite anybody who wants to know the truth to stop by The Bleak Lands and see. VF's only presence in Bleak is the merc corp V7 who seem to be ill-prepared for this war. Whenever Revan logs in she is held in station or hunted down in her "safespots" and podded.
Revan, I'd love to hear how you think yourself responsible for any drop in AM membership. Of the people or corporations that have left, the only ones that had any engagements with VF were the members of SHOD. We kicked out Bashi. ITEMP/TEMP-H have been inactive save for 2 or 3 members for months before the war with VF. Then there's Sieesa and her camp. I'll give you full credit for turning them into heretics. Job well done.
As far as corps leaving VF, we have UPAY, AIL, KCS, Lions, and possible some others because I honestly can't keep up with the revolving door of mercenaries. I have a feeling that V7 would not have been long for this war, either.
I know this won't convice you to stop your propaganda; you're deranged. I just want to say that no one believes you. Not the Amarr Loyalists, not the Minmatar Terrorists, and not any of the deep-space alliances who may be keeping tabs on this conflict. We can see that you made up your "victory conditions" once they were already met. Verisum Family are a laughing stock. I'm frankly embarassed to have flown with you at one point. _______________________
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Sidyous
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 19:51:00 -
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Sometimes I feel a bit guilty for not donating isk to jesters such as Revan, after all they are not slaves, but as they seem to insist on making people laugh so much then it makes me think why pay someome for services they provide for free. Of course sometimes I do wonder if Revans condition is more serious and perhaps professional help is required.
Lord Sidyous CEO Auctoritan Syndicate CVA
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah
Originally by: Krychton I don't speak for VF, nor do I care what their objectives where. Although I can see how something like that maybe hard to achieve. After all, all Graelyn had to do is sit back and allow his brethren bare his sins. I believe thats what happen, thats what caused so many to leave AM. No direction, and a failed command. AM can call that a victory, I call it a disgrace.
For a person who doesn't speak for them, you're incredibly vocal.
I think the 'vocal' Amarr on here just about qualifies for Krychton offering his typically logical points of view. You'd do well to learn from him.
Originally by: Soratah Graelyn's been online and working just as all of us in AM have. His support ships have been used to great effect in AM's engagements with pirates in the bleak lands.
He's just quoting numbers and statistics in regards to percentage of enemies engaged etc. While VF have undergone shifts in structure, they've not wavered from their goals. In the meantime, one can only comment on the reduction in our enemies against us.
Perhaps you are simply cutting down on your less worthy members. Perhaps you're refining the alliance pilots available and removing the fatty excess. In all essence, the volume of Aegis Militia certainly appears to have been butchered. The question remains as to who was holding the cleaver...
Originally by: Soratah As for the leadership, it's still fairly solid. Of course you commenting on this is the height of hippocrassy considering that a large number of active pilots staged a coup against your own CEO and splintered away.
Not all pilots who sign up to our lifestyle can bear it. The few who moved away were merely Gurristas looking to kill Amarr and finding space lacking. I hear they're a lot more successful in the State, where pilots tend to actually fly. My support goes with them.
As to 'coups', they happen all the time in the Blood Inquisition. Cyshade wouldn't have been our leader so long, after filling in the mighty shoes of both Hira'razhir and Myadra, were she not capable enough. I myself have attemtped to wrestle control from her and failed.
Sani Sabik is about the most powerful leading and the rest knowing their place. I know my place now within the corp, as do everyone else. But you can't blame people for trying. Only the worthy succeed - something your entire race has yet to understand.
You'll learn soon enough. Sani Sabik raises the mighty and destroys the weak. Your survival is quite impressive so far. Maybe you're not as weak as I thought...
...ever considered joining? ~~~~~
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien While VF have undergone shifts in structure, they've not wavered from their goals.
Actually, they've gone from demanding certain reparations from Aegis Militia concerning Admiral Graelyn's harsh words, to claiming to control the Bleaklands, to resorting to piracy in the Bleaklands, to now retreating from the Bleaklands entirely and apparently attempting to take over Providence in a very short period of time.
Aside from the well recorded objectives surrounding Admiral Graelyn, they've made no real objective known...through words or actions. They bounce from one direction to another, desperately seeking some sort of success or victory while trying to set the terms of that victory based on criteria of their own choosing.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien While VF have undergone shifts in structure, they've not wavered from their goals.
Actually, they've gone from demanding certain reparations from Aegis Militia concerning Admiral Graelyn's harsh words, to claiming to control the Bleaklands, to resorting to piracy in the Bleaklands, to now retreating from the Bleaklands entirely and apparently attempting to take over Providence in a very short period of time.
Aside from the well recorded objectives surrounding Admiral Graelyn, they've made no real objective known...through words or actions. They bounce from one direction to another, desperately seeking some sort of success or victory while trying to set the terms of that victory based on criteria of their own choosing.
I'm sorry, didn't you get the memo?
A little bird once told me that those who seek to destroy the Amarr must do so from multiple angles as the corrupting taint is found in many places.
I claim to not know all the goals of an alliance of such complexity, but I severly doubt either of us truly understand their motivations and goals.
The fact that you see this all as quite random, however, leads me to believe that I know more than you do... ~~~~~
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
A little bird once told me that those who seek to destroy the Amarr must do so from multiple angles as the corrupting taint is found in many places.
Verisum Family do not seek to destroy the Amarr Empire. A little Sieesa told me that she seeks to restore the Amarr Empire to its former glory. Said so in front of a pretty large crowd, in fact.
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
The fact that you see this all as quite random, however, leads me to believe that I know more than you do...
Per above, apparently not.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Verisum Family do not seek to destroy the Amarr Empire. A little Sieesa told me that she seeks to restore the Amarr Empire to its former glory. Said so in front of a pretty large crowd, in fact.
If restoring involves attacking and destroying every Amarr supporter, then I'm all for it.
I still don't think you're quite there... try harder. ~~~~~
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
If restoring involves attacking and destroying every Amarr supporter, then I'm all for it.
That's non sequitur.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:47:00 -
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It's perfectly obvious: Destroying what exists to rebuild anew.
I understand perfectly that part. ~~~~~
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Yoshito Sanders
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.03 21:55:00 -
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I would just like to point out that Aegis Militia destroyed a Gallente Navy Comet belonging to a VF corporation the other day. That alone is worth the 60 million ISK (the vast majority of which is uninsurable) that Revan claims Verisum Family has lost in conflict with the Militia.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:10:00 -
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Why would anyone trust the numbers of a woman that is allegedly drinking Martini all day?
Now recruiting!
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien It's perfectly obvious: Destroying what exists to rebuild anew.
If the restoration of the Amarr Empire to its former glory is to come, it will come at the hands of the very supporters of the Empire you claim to wish destroyed. I should figure that would be obvious enough.
Given Sieesa's statements of support of the Empire, I should think Blood Inquisition would be just as interested in seeing the demise of Verisum Family as they would any of the loyalist paramilitaries.
Of course, that wouldn't jive with current Verisum Family/Blood Inquisition relationships, would it?
Speak plainly: if you want to see the CVA crushed, then say so. You wouldn't be the only one. Speaking for myself, I'd be interested in seeing how far Blood Inquisition are willing to go to achieve such a goal.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
I'm sorry, didn't you get the memo?
A little bird once told me that those who seek to destroy the Amarr must do so from multiple angles as the corrupting taint is found in many places.
I claim to not know all the goals of an alliance of such complexity, but I severly doubt either of us truly understand their motivations and goals.
The fact that you see this all as quite random, however, leads me to believe that I know more than you do...
Blood Inquisition obviously knows. They are not blindly involved and I confirm the words of Mebrithiel. Ar per the war dec regarding Graelyn, I dont understand why you keep using that. those were conditions imposed so the war would be avoided. Never said conditions to "win" wars. VF objectives with Aegis militia has been achieved, one by one. If paramilitaries fails to know what VF IS and how we operate, its their problem. Suffice to say that it was involving Tetrimon, that is the reason for bleak lands strike in first case. that was the reason for taking Thakala, their headquarters. There is so much that CVA doesnt understand. Not the majority at least because one of their leaders knows what I speak about as well.
VF will proceed. goals are set, and as we achieve one by one, we keep moving one, changing, renewing, increasing and decreasing numbers as each operation and timing demands. I understand now that this bothers a lot my enemies as its done in a way they are not used to deal with. I'm pleased and dissapointed at same time, as I expected their brain to operate in a higher level than just coming here calling empty words. Herectic, this Title, that.. I've heard all of it before. It didn't stop me of doing what I must do, neither VF to accomplish their goals. It didn't stop Lady Morgan of proceeding with the objectives set either.
If they want ever to pretend to understand what VF seeks, they will need to do better than that. But I dont see it coming.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |
Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis Suffice to say that it was involving Tetrimon, that is the reason for bleak lands strike in first case.
Wait, so it didn't have anything to do with Admiral Graelyn being forced to resign from Aegis Militia or payment from Aegis Militia or delivery of Admiral Graelyn's corpse by Aegis Militia into Verisum Family hands?
Silly me.
Must be nice to change your stated objectives on the fly to make the final result look favorable.
If you get the nerve to leave Myyhera, I look forward to seeing you and yours in Providence. I'm sure you'll be met with the same warm reception you recieved in the "Verisum Family controlled" Bleaklands.
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:34:00 -
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Hmm...Tetrimon operations have continued untouched during your war, nowhere near Thalaka.
You've turned out to be a lot dumber about what's going on than I thought. Bonus. *smiles*
I shall link this little tidbit to the Grand Master so we can sit, have coffee, and laugh about you yet again. He seems happy he never got into your very warm bed, as you tried so vehemently to get him to do.
What have you achieved? Name one objective, besides making AM look invincible. (We most certainly are not, facing incompetent opponents is simply dumbluck)
The suggestion has been raised that you work for me, a construct to make Aegis look better, a laughingstock for hire. I gave the idea little thought unitl this thread.
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |
Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.03 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Hmm...Tetrimon operations have continued untouched during your war, nowhere near Thalaka.
You've turned out to be a lot dumber about what's going on than I thought. Bonus. *smiles*
I shall link this little tidbit to the Grand Master so we can sit, have coffee, and laugh about you yet again. He seems happy he never got into your very warm bed, as you tried so vehemently to get him to do.
What have you achieved? Name one objective, besides making AM look invincible. (We most certainly are not, facing incompetent opponents is simply dumbluck)
The suggestion has been raised that you work for me, a construct to make Aegis look better, a laughingstock for hire. I gave the idea little thought unitl this thread.
Dumber, war bed... you never cease to amaze me with your so selective and refined words. So childish. Your desire to be heard is such that you bring yourself to this level. Sorry kid, other than see you leaving at a 1x1 called duel, I had quite enough of you.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |
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