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Sasha Stone
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:54:00 -
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hi, hope someone can help
my question is the bonus for range on Auto cannon ammo titanium sabot reads 12.5% bonus, is this a bonus or a penalty? if the later then what about the penalty on a thrasher of -25% rof? is that a bonus because it's a - figure
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Elk Dorengard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:57:00 -
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It's a range bonus. And Destroyers DO have a penalty to rate of fire. So in that case, numbers are self explanatory. (no always the case, anyway).
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Mudkest
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Elk Dorengard
It's a range bonus. And Destroyers DO have a penalty to rate of fire. So in that case, numbers are self explanatory. (no always the case, anyway).
cept that titanium sabbot redues optimal range instead of increasing it(as you would expect with 12.5% bonus)
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Mudkest
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:00:00 -
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yesh the bonus/penaltys are a bit odd at times, for titanium sabbot it's a penalty, and for trasher it's a penalty as well ;)
the ammo that actually gives a bonus to range gets a -50% to range bonus, fun isn't it?
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Sasha Stone
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:01:00 -
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so does that mean i get an extra 50% range om antimatter hybrid charges i always thought antimatter were the shortest range
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Elk Dorengard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Elk Dorengard on 04/08/2006 12:05:40
Nonono, AM reduces the optimal range. If the number on the ammo description is positive, it's a bonus. Period.
Bonuses go as this :
Carbonized Lead, Explosive et Kinetic, +60%
Nuclear, Explosive et Kinetic, +40%
Proton,EM, Explosive et Kinetic, +20%
Depleted Uranium, Explosive, Kinetic et Thermal, 0%
Titanium Sabot, Explosive et Kinetic, -12.5%
Fusion, Explosive et Kinetic, -25%
Phased Plasma, Kinetic et Thermal, -37.5%
EMP, EM, Explosive et Kinetic, -50%
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Sasha Stone
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mudkest
Originally by: Elk Dorengard
It's a range bonus. And Destroyers DO have a penalty to rate of fire. So in that case, numbers are self explanatory. (no always the case, anyway).
cept that titanium sabbot redues optimal range instead of increasing it(as you would expect with 12.5% bonus)
thanks
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Sasha Stone
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sasha Stone on 04/08/2006 12:12:28
Originally by: Elk Dorengard
Edited by: Elk Dorengard on 04/08/2006 12:05:40
Nonono, AM reduces the optimal range. If the number on the ammo description is positive, it's a bonus. Period.
Carbonized Lead, Explosive et Kinetic, +60%
Nuclear, Explosive et Kinetic, +40%
Proton,EM, Explosive et Kinetic, +20%
Depleted Uranium, Explosive, Kinetic et Thermal, 0%
Titanium Sabot, Explosive et Kinetic, -12.5%
Fusion, Explosive et Kinetic, -25%
Phased Plasma, Kinetic et Thermal, -37.5%
EMP, EM, Explosive et Kinetic, -50%
but titanium does not have -12.5 it says a Positive number
0 HPexplosive damage
3 HPkinetic damage
6 HPthermal damage
HPrange bonus 12,5 %
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Mudkest
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Elk Dorengard
Edited by: Elk Dorengard on 04/08/2006 12:05:40
Nonono, AM reduces the optimal range. If the number on the ammo description is positive, it's a bonus. Period.
Bonuses go as this :
Carbonized Lead, Explosive et Kinetic, +60%
cept that cabonized lead has a -60% range bonus listed(but it does increase range)
ammo range bonus listing should be fixed -_-
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar
The Phoenix Legionaires
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Stone
but titanium does not have -12.5 it says a Positive number
0 HPexplosive damage
3 HPkinetic damage
6 HPthermal damage
HPrange bonus 12,5 %
Hence it's a penalty. Look at Carbonized Lead. It extends your range by 60% and has -60% in the database.
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Elk Dorengard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:19:00 -
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Weird. Is that a thing related only to projectile turrets? I've never noticed such a thing with hybrid charges... Or I'm so used to them I don't ever notice?
Anyway, the chart I gave you is correct, so you should refer to it to know how it works.
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Mudkest
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:24:00 -
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hybrid charges and crystals also seem to suffer the same problem.
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Sasha Stone
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Elk Dorengard
Weird. Is that a thing related only to projectile turrets? I've never noticed such a thing with hybrid charges... Or I'm so used to them I don't ever notice?
Anyway, the chart I gave you is correct, so you should refer to it to know how it works.
it's the same on hybrid ammo antimatter is listed as having a 50% range bounus,
thanks to everyone for their help
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