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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:44:00 -
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GOD HEAR OUR PRAYER
Today it has been slightly over a year since Doriam II was assassinated in cold blood. The hunt for his killer(s) continues yet the Amarrian Empire must go on. Those of faith who worship the true God of Amarr and serve this holy Empire pray daily for a new Emperor, a strong Emperor, one who will build on the legacy of the strong former Emperors of Amarr, expansion, reclamation, justice and redemption.
We of Amarr and those non-Amarr who support us have tried to lead a life an Emperor would be proud of. Now today, over a year since the tragedy, we still are without a leader.
To this end a RALLY FOR AN EMPEROR has been scheduled for Sunday, August 13, 2006 at 20:00 evetime outside Emperor station in Amarr. The event will last approximately 30 minutes and will feature guest speakers and a prayer led by myself that God may find us worthy.
All who support Amarr or have a desire for an Emperor to ascend the throne are encouraged to attend. This is a time to put aside individual differences and seek the common goal of a strong, just and powerful Amarrian Empire. I invite all who share the dream of an Amarrian Empire that spans the universe and a strong leader on the throne to attend.
From Emperor station after the rally those who wish to attend will proceed via convoy to the royal capital of Dam Torstad. There we shall again pray to God to fill the holy palace of Emperors past with a wise and strong leader who will usher in a new era for all the servants of Amarr.
Those who attend are asked to bring their most powerful warships, armed as heavily as possible, to show God that we are strong and committed to the advancement of the Empire. We must show God our strength so that he may see our resolve and grant us the Emperor we so desperately need.
In this time of uncertainty, when traitorous villany runs rampant and pirates hound the doorsteps of our Empire, we of Amarr and those who support us and are our friends must stand together against the threats and unite before God as one loud voice praying to Him for a new Emperor.
We ask God to judge our commitment and should we be found worthy grant us an Emperor. Likewise if we are unworthy we pray God grants us the ability to redeem ourselves before Him and reach a new higher level of faith.
This is our time, this is our place, this is the Empire we love. All who would see Amarr granted a new Emperor are encouraged to attend.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:48:00 -
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I personally extend invitation to the following corporations who have proven their loyalty to the Empire. All who would see an Emperor ascend the throne are invited to attend.
PIE Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA) Aegis Militia Alliance (AM) Imperial Star Guards 1st Praetorian Guard Paladin Imperium Intaki Union
There are other corporations who have also served as well as allies of Amarr including some Caldari and Gallante who may feel free to attend the rally. This is for all of us who would see an Emperor instead of an empty throne.
Archbishop
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Sempermalum
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:51:00 -
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hmm I wonder who put you in charge of who is allowed to come, do you now speak for god? Or is this rally only for those you personally deem faithful, to try and influence the choice of this emperor?
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:54:00 -
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Excellent! I shall make arrangements!
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |

Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:56:00 -
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Quote: hmm I wonder who put you in charge of who is allowed to come, do you now speak for god? Or is this rally only for those you personally deem faithful, to try and influence the choice of this emperor?
If you will look I said ALL ARE INVITED who support Amarr and want to see an Emperor ascend the throne. As the organizer of this event I have sent out invitations myself but it is by far a small list as compared to all who support Amarr.
Even a Caldari such as yourself, if you desire to see a strong Amarrian Emperor ascend the throne, would be welcome. We only ask you be respectful during the Rally and Prayer and that you want in your heart for Amarr to be strong.
All are invited who would see Amarr granted an Emperor again.
Archbishop
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Sempermalum
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sempermalum on 05/08/2006 03:59:45 Would I be pushed into the back, like so many of the true ammarrian guards, have done in the past, who feel that because they where born amarrian, that they do not have to prove there faith anymore, and instead constantly stand on the shoulders of the true faithful that do the majority of the work, but where not born as true amarrians???
Or will all of us that wish to see a strong reunited amarrian empire, whether they where true amarrian or others of faith, be treated equally?
and will all be there be under a neutrality act, or will cva pie and am be fighting vf, and disrupting the affair
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 04:13:00 -
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Quote: Would I be pushed into the back, like so many of the true ammarrian guards, have done in the past, who feel that because they where born amarrian, that they do not have to prove there faith anymore, and instead constantly stand on the shoulders of the true faithful that do the majority of the work, but where not born as true amarrians???
Perhaps you should read a diary entry I made regarding my father and my family history. You will see while I was raised the son of a wealthy Ni-Kunni industrialist in the KorAzor realm it was not always this way.
A FATHERS LEGACY
As you can see not all is as it appears. I am a Ni-Kunni thus I will never be as worthy as a pure Amarr. I know my place and I know my efforts must be even moreso sincere and worthy to prove I deserve the place God has granted me in the Empire.
Likewise there are some not even Amarr, Ni-Kunni or Khanid who serve the Empire. Garreck of the CVA is one such warrior who has learned his place. He realizes he is not Amarr and knows what he must do as a non-Amarr in an Amarrian Empire.
All of faith must prove it through actions but it is true those who are born pure Amarr are closest to God. Still even they can fall from grace through sin and corruption. Yet as pure Amarr they are still Amarrian.
I know my place and I know what I can never be. Yet in an Empire of opportunity and holy direction I really have no personal needs. My desires mean nothing as compared to the welfare of Amarr. I have no desire that matters more then God and Empire.
In many ways that is something all "true" to the Amarrian Empire share. A knowledge that we serve and are blessed. Even a Ni-Kunni born to a slave such as myself can be blessed with service and faith.
There is a place in Gods Empire for all who would serve Him and know their place.
Archbishop
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Valerius Morai
Amarr Shadow Lancers
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Posted - 2006.08.05 04:15:00 -
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I will be in attendance...this matter is long held by myself to be a critical matter to the faithful, and indeed, all loyalists. I will personally take up a period of vigilant prayer in the days approaching the rally.
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.05 05:01:00 -
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Can I come too?
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Yoshito Sanders
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.05 06:58:00 -
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I shall make it a point to attend, Lord Archbishop, and show my support for the Empire and the arrival of a new Emperor.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan Can I come too?

I believe the invitation is made for all...
An Emperor. Now that is a dream many of us share despite our differences of conduct in times when Amarr is lost on its own shadows. But with House of Sarum without an heir, what's the point to even think something is worth of hope? Now The holy city of Dam-Torsad... A few days after a Tetrimon Grand Master is sanctified, the chosen of the place couldn't speak more for PIEs philosophy: The very system where Lozera Riana was imprisoned, most likely tortured and died two years later.
I will think about this event. It can have a meaning, or as many others it will again fall unheard at the ears of a dead God that no longer exists.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Discorporation
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 05/08/2006 11:16:10 Good to see that the Amarrian Elite still know how to rabble like common folk. Good to see you haven't forgotten about your roots, Archbishop.
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AsheRaven
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 05/08/2006 12:05:29 I may actually attend, if not just to see what does not happen. The political regime of Amarr is of particular interest to me, even more so now.
I may even come with snacks
You needn't worry, Archbisop, I won't interrupt your gathering. I'll watch respectfully, an silently. If any guns are fired, they will not come from my cannons I assure you.
*Makes preperations to fly into the Dragon's Nest*
I may even come with snacks. I'll probably bring vintage Khanid ---------------------------------
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Arderich
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Arderich on 05/08/2006 12:20:46 This is a sad attempt of the liberal fraction inside the Amarr Empire to uphold the liberal ways of Heideran and Doriam.
The poster is the first evidence. Why are the royal houses within the Empire not sorted by alphabetical order? Why must house Tash-Murkon stand in the middle of all when even Uriam Kador recently questioned the Heir status of Tash-Murkon? From my point of view that's a provocation.
Why do the liberals try to accelerate a succession in a time when house Sarum does not have a Heir and when the scriptures of Tetrimon still has not been fully examined? Do the liberals want another democratic succession to honor the traditions of the Gallente Federation?
Originally by: Archbishop This is a time to put aside individual differences and seek the common goal of a strong, just and powerful Amarrian Empire.
Nice words, empty words. You invite Intakis and every heathen of this universe but 'forget' your brothers, the Dark Amarr. A succession today would only increase the time of suffering for another 500 years.
Ardishapur followers should not attend as long as the Tetrimon scriptures has not been examined. They for sure have an interest to see if this scriptures are the true words of God before a new Emperor will be chosen.
Sarum followers should not attend because such a hurried succession is not in the interest of house Sarum which stands without a Heir.
Kador followers should not attend because Uriam Kador has questioned the Heir status of house Tash-Murkon. A participation of the udorian house Tash-Murkon and the threat to have former slaves leading the Empire must be eliminated before a succession can start.
Khanid followers should not attend because we know God chosen one is still alive. We also know his time is is short. This is a timing clearly created by God to test our faith. Will the citizens of the Amarr Empire have the patience to take this chance granted by God for a reunification of Gods chosen people or will they listen to those Udorian supporters who have a selfish interest to prevent a reunification?
Dear brothers and sisters in the Amarr Empire. I can understand your wish to have a new Emperor but you must realize we are living in testing times. God is testing your patience. Do not fail this test of God.
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Sieesa
Amarr Liberated Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:02:00 -
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While I commend the attemtp Archbishop....perhapse a simple rally and prayer are not enough to bring us a new golden age, or a new Emperor...but there are things in the works to make your dream...and mine...a reality. I might be able to attend, time permitting, and I wish you all the best in this and every other ambition....as I hope that you will one day wish me in mine to see the Empire restored, and a new emperor on the throne....
God is a constant that overshadows us all...he will give us what we need...even if his hand must be forced on occaision.
Sieesa Morgan.
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ubah fo
Filthy Wyrm
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:24:00 -
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If planetside arrangements do not hold me back, I'll be sure to attend. ___________________
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Kehmor
Caldari New Roots Narcotics
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:26:00 -
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I will of course attend!
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:07:00 -
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So many questions yet only God can answer them all. This simple prayer rally for an Emperor is merely a plea to God that he finds us worthy. Nothing more. Nothing is meant by the poster layout (you'll note KorAzor the house I am loyal to is last listed). Nothing is meant by the Dam Torstad convoy merely a personal plea to God at the location of the Emperors home (no slight to Tetrimon). I have invited personally those loyal to Tetrimon as well as those not and would be honored as a man of peace if even Grand Master Horm decided to attend although this is a not a political event and no statements regarding individual theology should be made.
This is a time of unity to bring all who would see Amarr led by a strong fierce Emperor ascend the throne. Those not of Amarr, those who do not share our love of God, those who do not understand what it is to serve, can not comprehend the void left when a true leader passes. There are those who disliked the modern teachings of Doriam II, I myself am fiercely loyal to his memory as a former servant, yet this event is not to recognize or distain any one Emperor. This is a plea to God for a NEW Emperor and nothing more.
To those who would sew dissent and distrust, asking houses not to attend for various reasons, to those who see some kind of subliminal message in a poster design I ask you this simple question.
Would Amarr benefit from a new Emperor who is of God, who is strong, who is brave, who is fierce, who can lead us into reclamation and redemption?
If your answer is YES then come to the rally and feel the fellowship for a short time of those who want the same thing. The entire universe will benefit from a strong Amarrian Emperor who leads with bravery and dignity. The Amarrian Empire, spanning over 40% of safe space, is by far the largest of the Empires. This is the home of the faithful of God and God is who we serve.
Put down distrust and suspicion. If you are a loyal Amarrian, dedicated to the desire that a new strong Emperor ascend with the grace of God, then this rally is for you. It is for us all.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:22:00 -
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Arderich. As I said I am a man of peace and this rally, this plea to God for an Emperor, is also a time to bring together those who would see Amarr led by someone worthy. I am sure the Khanid Kingdom wishes to see Amarr a stable prosperous place does it not? Lately the relations with the Dark Amarr have improved and I myself count several Khanid as personal friends. PIE itself has several Khanid origin officers now who have pledged fidelity to God and Empire but who are still Khanid.
Perhaps this rally for an Emperor will also provide another doorway to improved relations as well?
Arderich I invite all Khanid who would share the vision of a strong Amarrian Empire to the rally. The invitation of the Intaki Union was merely a personal nod as they stood beside the Amarr while a recent conflict raged in Amarr space and helped defend Amarrian citizens and industrial operations.
Ardishapur loyalists should attend because a strong Emperor will continue the examination of the Tetrimon scriptures and if proven valid will have the courge of conviction to see them implimented.
Sarum loyalists should attend because a strong Emperor will push Sarum to appoint an heir and likewise favor the military and reclamation efforts that are such a part of the Sarum legacy of honor.
Kador followers should attend because no change to Empire house standing will ever occur while there is no Emperor on the throne. Disputes about other houses will fester like an infection.
Khanid followers should attend because the rally is an opportunity to meet with others who would see Amarr strong and leave with the understanding that a wise Amarrian Empire could continue the efforts at reconciliation begun recently. Peace is good for us all is it not?
You read to much into the rally. It is a plea to God and nothing more. If you wish to attend please do I would be happy to have you as a guest. If you do not then do not. I would ask you though the question I asked above.
Would Amarr benefit from a strong Emperor?
When you answer this you will know where to be next weekend.
Archbishop
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Arderich Edited by: Arderich on 05/08/2006 12:20:46 This is a sad attempt of the liberal fraction inside the Amarr Empire to uphold the liberal ways of Heideran and Doriam.
No, this is a parayer meeting to pray for a new Emperor. If it is God's wish that we receive a liberal Emperor, then all loyal Amarrians will accept that. Likewise, if God decides to send us a more conservative Emperor, then all loyal Amarrians will also welcome him.
Quote: The poster is the first evidence. Why are the royal houses within the Empire not sorted by alphabetical order? Why must house Tash-Murkon stand in the middle of all when even Uriam Kador recently questioned the Heir status of Tash-Murkon? From my point of view that's a provocation.
I'm sure that it's coincidental.
Quote: Why do the liberals try to accelerate a succession in a time when house Sarum does not have a Heir and when the scriptures of Tetrimon still has not been fully examined? Do the liberals want another democratic succession to honor the traditions of the Gallente Federation?
I for one will trust the Succession Committee, the Privy Council and the Theology Council to come up with a suitable method of divining who our next Emperor will be.
Quote:
Originally by: Archbishop This is a time to put aside individual differences and seek the common goal of a strong, just and powerful Amarrian Empire.
Nice words, empty words. You invite Intakis and every heathen of this universe but 'forget' your brothers, the Dark Amarr. A succession today would only increase the time of suffering for another 500 years.
I'm sure that the Dark Amarr will be back within the welcoming embrace of the Empire, just as soon as they step into the light.
Quote: Ardishapur followers should not attend as long as the Tetrimon scriptures has not been examined. They for sure have an interest to see if this scriptures are the true words of God before a new Emperor will be chosen.
Sarum followers should not attend because such a hurried succession is not in the interest of house Sarum which stands without a Heir.
Kador followers should not attend because Uriam Kador has questioned the Heir status of house Tash-Murkon. A participation of the udorian house Tash-Murkon and the threat to have former slaves leading the Empire must be eliminated before a succession can start.
And just who are you to say what followers of those three fine houses should do?
Quote: Khanid followers should not attend because we know God chosen one is still alive. We also know his time is is short. This is a timing clearly created by God to test our faith. Will the citizens of the Amarr Empire have the patience to take this chance granted by God for a reunification of Gods chosen people or will they listen to those Udorian supporters who have a selfish interest to prevent a reunification?
If your King was truly the chosen of God, he would have won the succession trials instead of Heideran VII.
Quote: Dear brothers and sisters in the Amarr Empire. I can understand your wish to have a new Emperor but you must realize we are living in testing times. God is testing your patience. Do not fail this test of God.
Or could it be that God is testing our faith and wants our prayers for a new Emperor? Perhaps he wants us to prove our devotion and our worthiness?
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Sieesa
Amarr Liberated Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:32:00 -
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This of course would have been a perfect opportunity to use the Vindico Cruor...but, unfortunately, the timing is all wrong....not to mention the location....too crippling, too quickly. Bah....
Oh well....patience, patience.
Sieesa Morgan.
My Pain Is Legion |

Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 05/08/2006 15:34:07
Quote: "Or could it be that God is testing our faith and wants our prayers for a new Emperor? Perhaps he wants us to prove our devotion and our worthiness?"
I believe this is key. A year has passed since Doriam II was killed and while we have had the wisdom and guidance of the Theology Council and the Privy Council to lead us the throne of Amarr remains vacant.
I believe God is testing us and our devotion to the Empire. He is testing our worth and our hearts. Only in prayer can we come together as one unified voice for Amarr and pray to Him for an Emperor.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |

Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arderich This is a sad attempt of the liberal fraction inside the Amarr Empire to uphold the liberal ways of Heideran and Doriam.
The poster is the first evidence. Why are the royal houses within the Empire not sorted by alphabetical order? Why must house Tash-Murkon stand in the middle of all when even Uriam Kador recently questioned the Heir status of Tash-Murkon? From my point of view that's a provocation.
Why do the liberals try to accelerate a succession in a time when house Sarum does not have a Heir and when the scriptures of Tetrimon still has not been fully examined?
Originally by: Archbishop This is a time to put aside individual differences and seek the common goal of a strong, just and powerful Amarrian Empire.
Nice words, empty words. You invite Intakis and every heathen of this universe but 'forget' your brothers, the Dark Amarr. A succession today would only increase the time of suffering for another 500 years.
Ardishapur followers should not attend as long as the Tetrimon scriptures has not been examined. They for sure have an interest to see if this scriptures are the true words of God before a new Emperor will be chosen.
Sarum followers should not attend because such a hurried succession is not in the interest of house Sarum which stands without a Heir.
Hummm... interesting points to be considered. With Sarum without an heir and Tetrimon in disarray with its false Grand Master still at control I find this event a bit... without true purpose.
Maybe it won't be welcome... maybe.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Soratah on 05/08/2006 17:50:46 I see you have issues with the Tetrimon still... Revan when it comes to your point of view in these regards. I would assume that your biased is because of Tetrimon snubbing you, no?
Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn
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Aran Cole
Minmatar Xerxes Enterprises Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.05 18:44:00 -
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I will certainly attend and am deeply honored to be able to. _______________________
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Arderich
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:45:00 -
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As long as you agree with me - it's not good to have an udorian Empress - it's not good to have a succession without Sarum participation - it's not good to select an Emperor/Empress before the Tetrimon scriptures are axamined - selecting an Emperor/Empress before the death of Khanid II most likely will cause trouble for an unpredictable time with the Khanid Kingdom
as long I see no problem. Excuse me if I misinterpreted your intentions. As long you do not try to rush a succession without resolving the problems I have mentioned I have no problems with your rally. You might agree a strong Emperor most likely would have unquestionable authority if this problems are resolved before he became Emperor. By not resolving this problems the trouble will continue.
Originally by: Rodj Blake I for one will trust the Succession Committee, the Privy Council and the Theology Council to come up with a suitable method of divining who our next Emperor will be. You seemed more than happy with the arrangements last time when you fought in the championships in an attempt to represent Yonis Ardishapur.
Noone can argue I was supporting this succession. Nevertheless the succession would have been done with or without me. Therefore I participated trying to prevent the worst - Doriam Kor-Azor or Davit Tash-Murkon entering the throne. Unfortunatly I failed.
I did not trust Dasham Nestorik and his Succession Committee. When he said "we must hope that moderate and peace loving powers will take the throne. It is imperative to the trans-stellar peace that our leader [Heideran] tried to achieve" I knew the outcome of this succession was clear before the succession even started. I remember the treacherous annoing and the change of rules by the Succession Committee one day before the succession started. Intriges that isolated me one day before the pre-trials and forced me to fight without wingmen. Sister Wheya participated in the Vulpayne team which then had a slightly better chance with 3 of 4 allowed pilots. I fought alone and became third. I admit my contrahents were not very strong and I don't feel ashamed to loose a fight 1:4.
As long as the Tetrimon scriptures are not examined the authority of the Theology Council is questionable as well.
I neither trust the (old) Succession Committee nor do I trust the Theology Council. But I trust the majority of the Privy Council. They have made some very good decisions after the death of Doriam which led to an improved relationship with the Khanid Kingdom after the death of Doriam. I am confident you will listen to your Privy Council.
Rodj, I fought for Idonis Ardishapur, not for Yonis Ardishapur. It's a shame noone remembers this great man who was admired as the next Messiah by many Amarrians. Idonis Ardishapur set great examples how to deal with heathen: Ray Hardman or the Starkmanir will not question amarrian authority anymore. Idonis Ardishapur showed what it means to be Amarr.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:04:00 -
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Quote: "- it's not good to have an udorian Empress - it's not good to have a succession without Sarum participation - it's not good to select an Emperor/Empress before the Tetrimon scriptures are axamined - selecting an Emperor/Empress before the death of Khanid II most likely will cause trouble for an unpredictable time with the Khanid Kingdom"
It is not for me to judge who becomes our Emperor. The Emperor is our link to God and the one who leads us and our Empire. For a common Ni-Kunni like myself to pass judgement on any man or woman atop the throne would be completely improper. Thus I am not able to state a TashMurkon heir is good or bad. I merely serve those chosen by God to lead us. Nothing more and nothing less.
I do pray for the Sarum family to pick an heir. Since the trials they have been without a legal heir. Perhaps in the near future the vision of all those who support Amarr at this rally will be an inspiration to the Sarum and help them in their difficult decision. Again I dare not speak for a great house. House Sarum is a stronghold of honor and it is not for me to say what they should or should not do. It is my wish though that they appoint an heir quickly lest they be left out.
The Tetrimon Scriptures are still being studied. How long this will take is unknown. Either way an Emperor chosen by God to lead us will by the strength of his convictions and character be inspired to do the right thing whatever that is. Just as Doriam II allowed the studies to continue and opened relations with the Khanid the next Emperor may do the same or more. Who are we to say?
Finally the issue of Khanid II. We of the Amarrian Empire do not wait for an outside ruler to die before doing our business. Khanid II is not in the chain of heirs to the throne via the actions of family leaving the Empire rather than obeying the rule of suicide. That is a choice the Khanid made and make to this day. I will not disparage the man as I have never met King Khanid II. Yet I know as a moral Amarrian we must obey the traditions laid forth in our laws lest we become anarchy itelf. The status of Khanid II has nothing to do with our finding a new Emperor. It is only hoped (personally) the new Emperor will continue the path of the old in furthering the lines of communications between the Amarr and the Dark Amarr.
Archbishop
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Arderich
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Just as Doriam II .... opened relations with the Khanid ....
Doriam Kor-Azor was the first Heir visiting the Gallente Federation. He talked about recognizing the Minmatar Republic as a sovereign state. He tried to negotiate with Sansha. This is all true.
As far as I know he never opened relation with Khanid. Our relationship improved after the death of Doriam. That's the reason why I trust the majority of the Privy Council.
Quote: Finally the issue of Khanid II. We of the Amarrian Empire do not wait for an outside ruler to die before doing our business. Khanid II is not in the chain of heirs to the throne via the actions of family leaving the Empire rather than obeying the rule of suicide.
At least Khanid II is the oldest and most experienced royal Heir alive. Most likely he is the oldest and wisest Amarr in history.
The same old arguments over the past years, over and over. I even do not blame you because you learned nothing else but hatred towards the Kingdom since your birth. Can't you see the chance to make an end to this tensions or do you knowingly boykott this opportunity? We Amarr, Gods chosen people, might have the chance to unite and to serve one and the same Emperor if you have patience. Ignoring house Khanid would be a very shortsighted and childish behaviour. Don't be impatient like a Minmatar or Gallente. Amarr are making plans for centuries, not for days or years.
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Sarok Menak
Amarr Imperial Star Guards
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:31:00 -
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Be sure of the presence of ISGD.
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Shaikar
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:34:00 -
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Khanid II was once an Heir. However, he ceased to be so when he contested in the succession, lost, refused to follow the rules of succession, broke with tradition, looted the estates of the Emperor and led a rebellion against the Empire.
He is experienced alright, I'll give you that much.
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Johnny Twoshoe
Infinite Style Incorporated Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.06 04:39:00 -
[31]
I cannot guarantee my attendance, but I will do what else I can to support the Amarr in this most trying time. ~~~
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:05:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Arderich
- it's not good to select an Emperor/Empress before the Tetrimon scriptures are axamined
As far as I'm aware, should the Tetrimon manuscripts prove to be authentic, then we would still need an Emperor.
Furthermore, should the Order of St Tetrimon be successful in their endeavour, then the changes they seek would prove more credible if endorsed by a sitting Emperor rather than just the Theology and Privy Councils.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.06 10:03:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Shaikar Khanid II was once an Heir. However, he ceased to be so when he contested in the succession, lost, refused to follow the rules of succession, broke with tradition, looted the estates of the Emperor and led a rebellion against the Empire.
He is experienced alright, I'll give you that much.
It was traditional for the council of apostles to choose the Emperor from their ranks. In that time all the houses had equal voice.
If anything Sarum commited suicide and Khanid's succession were in protest of the Rites of Succession brought in by what can only be construed as a Despotism.
When one holds traditional values to an extreme they take such drastic measures in protest then they're perfectly within their rights to offer comments on these proceedings.
"Tradition" is a word that in the past has become somewhat... malleable.
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.08.06 16:00:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Shaikar Khanid II was once an Heir. However, he ceased to be so when he contested in the succession, lost, refused to follow the rules of succession, broke with tradition, looted the estates of the Emperor and led a rebellion against the Empire.
He is experienced alright, I'll give you that much.
Originally by: Shaikar Khanid II was once an Heir. However, he ceased to be so when he contested in the succession, lost, refused to follow the rules of succession, broke with tradition, looted the estates of the Emperor and led a rebellion against the Empire.
He is experienced alright, I'll give you that much.
Yes his crimes against God and Amarr is well documented, if he were to be Emperor there would be civil war. Would the poster above me please stand up? |

Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.06 18:17:00 -
[35]
Having pondered on the subject of this event, I still see the timing favoring only the weakest of the Houses and an unstable religious/political system.
Sarum needs to have an appointed heir. Tetrimon must get back in hands of a competent Grand Master so may the scriptures be released, there will be certainty of an accurate interpretation.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:07:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Archbishop on 08/08/2006 10:09:39 Double Post
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:10:00 -
[37]
I have been overwhelmed by the interest of many parties to the concept of the Rally for an Emperor. I am pleased it has gone over as well as it has and hope to have a large crowd in attendence.
That said I would ask all parties to note that several corporations and alliances will be in attendence and thus anyone at war with these corporations or alliances please note your scanners will be flashing red and valid war targets will be near.
These are:
PIE Corporation CVA Alliance Aegis Militia Alliance Imperial Star Guards
Also in attendence plan to be:
Several Mercenary Coalition individual members (who are Amarrian loyalists)
Please note as established Concord laws allow war targets to fire on each other in safe high security Empire space being in close proximity to any of these warships as an enemy is a risky situation. Therefore if anyone is attending who is at war with any of these corporations (or any others that may attend) it is requested you arrange a ceasefire with your enemy prior to the Rally event. When you have arranged this please evemail me a message stating that "we have arranged a ceasefire" with the names of those who discussed it.
It is up to individual enemies to establish ceasefires. It is our desire to have a peaceful rally and if you are knowingly visiting the rally while enemies may be there please be prudent and plan ahead for ceasefire. The Rally Organizer (Archbishop) will not be responsible for establishing ceasefires in the area and as a Director for only one of the above mentioned corporations can not speak for the others.
This is a rally of unity and hope for a new Emperor. If this is a dream you share and you want to attend start planning now and if you have an enemy who will be attending please work NOW to arrange ceasefire so you may attend. It is up to you to take this step.
Thank you,
Archbishop
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Corin Raven
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:26:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Corin Raven on 08/08/2006 11:26:43 An interesting concept for the Amarrian people you propose, Archbishop.
"The voice of the people!"
A fascinating irony -------------------------------
Proud Captain of the CRS Loki-II (Rupture Class) |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:28:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Corin Raven Edited by: Corin Raven on 08/08/2006 11:26:43 An interesting concept for the Amarrian people you propose, Archbishop.
"The voice of the people!"
A fascinating irony
The voice of the people proclaiming support for the Empire should always be heard.
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Corin Raven
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:30:00 -
[40]
This is not support, this is a Rally to create change, or at least enforce something your Khanid cousins so rightly say should be left to tradition.
I thought the Amrrian's claimed to be an enlightened patient people. The will of "God" should be on his own time table, and not cower to the impatient demands of his cattle. -------------------------------
Proud Captain of the CRS Loki-II (Rupture Class) |

Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:35:00 -
[41]
sadly in this case the will of God has to go through a lot of red tape...
honestly i'd like to be a knife and cut the red tape by proclaiming myself to... forget that just some daydreaming *looks for his medication*
this rally will demonstrate our dedication to God, Emperor and Empire! We are not going to rush things as we are not in a position to do so.
To carry the name of your leader as prayer on your lips is armor for the soul, faith being my shield and His guidance my holy sword! _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
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Corin Raven
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:41:00 -
[42]
I don't agree with your Empire or it's policy, but for a cultural point of view that was quite insightful. -------------------------------
Proud Captain of the CRS Loki-II (Rupture Class) |

Thorolfur
Caldari DeWinter-Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.08 20:43:00 -
[43]
I have already made arrangements to be present. May god be with the Amarr in their time of need.
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Lygos
ISS Navy Task Force
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Posted - 2006.08.09 02:07:00 -
[44]
I find this move towards the demos to be both unseemly and unnerving.
The Servus Servorum Dei is a sacred calling, and not simply a temporal office for a charge d'affaires in belligerent dealings.
Tend to the soul of the ecumene first, and trust in the path this brings.
If the Temple is not Pure, how can it be a more perfect lens for revealing the Divine?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:16:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 10/08/2006 02:16:53
I'll be there, praying we get a worthy Emperor for a change 
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Habraka
House Nosferatu Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.10 20:30:00 -
[46]
I'm interested, we'll talk tomorrow.
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Nag A'Carash
Amarr PRIORY OF AMARR
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Posted - 2006.08.11 08:26:00 -
[47]
I'm praying to God for a new Emperor, because only His enlightened presence may stop Amarr from drifting apart. Many fractions, all claiming to believe with true faith, are using absence of the Emperor as a chance to gain personal profits, not thinking about Amarr people, weakening our Empire and inviting our enemies to oppress Amarr nation. Only Emperor can put an end to it, only His holly aura can calm down internal enmity.
And finally I shall attend, because I believe this may be perfect opportunity to find what I'm looking for (I shall say no more)
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Lucian Alucard
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.11 10:26:00 -
[48]
Intresting, I will be sure to attend, I do hope that house Serum finally sorts its affairs though after these long years. Many people question this move but I think any show of solidarity at this point no matter how our opinions differ is better then being percieved as weakend or disorganised.
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Davlos
Caldari Swag Co.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 11:08:00 -
[49]
*grins wryly*
Wouldn't this be an invitation for the Minmatar to raid the place for the sake of disruption?
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Corin Raven
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.08.11 11:23:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Corin Raven on 11/08/2006 11:23:48 What would be the point?
This is an Amarrian internal affair. It's unliekly there will be any politcal or liberational profit in "disrupting" a rally.
I'll keep well out of it, nothing to gain nut pointless chaos.
Anyway, arne't one of the Houses still missing an Heir? -------------------------------
Proud Captain of the CRS Loki-II (Rupture Class) |

Davlos
Caldari Swag Co.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 11:34:00 -
[51]
I wouldn't know...
You know how irrational some organisations can be, just to make a political statement for the sake of proving their 'ideological purity', whatever that means.
Just like how the ancient Irish Republican Army, as the archives say, if it even did exist.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.08.11 12:21:00 -
[52]
House Sarum hasn't publically appointed a heir yet, which doesn't necessarily mean that there is no heir.
Now recruiting!
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.11 13:15:00 -
[53]
Although I personally Feel the strong ties of a diplomatic govenment pulsing though my Body, I Also know how it can be to live in a state of Anarchy.
The Empire has been my home for a long time now, And I have seen the pains brought on by not having a stable govenment. May your God grant you an Emperor quickly, to return order to the Amarr Govenment.
I shall join you in attendance, Flying my newly commissioned Apocalypse Battleship, What better way to show Honor to the Empire than to feild the best they have to offer!
CEO - MGTTG
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:52:00 -
[54]
I am pleased to announce the schedule of events for the Rally for an Emperor this weekend.
20:00 - All ships orbit Emperor Station in convoy. 20:10 - Roll Call of Present Corporations who support Amarr 20:15 - Formal prayer led by Archbishop of PIE Incorporated 20:20 - Guest Speaker Prayers - TBA 20:30 - Procession of ships interested proceed to Dam Torstad
Archbishop
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:47:00 -
[55]
Communication
In order to avoid misunderstandings let it be clarified that Verisum Family does not support this rally. It is an offense to conduct such thing without Sarum having an appointed heir. Regarding wars, no cease fire agreement was ever requested from /to VF. our wars proceeds as normal.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:57:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Revan Neferis Communication
Verisum Family does not support this rally.
oh no!
all three of you condemn this rally!
what ever will the Amarr Empire do?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.12 07:26:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Revan Neferis Communication
Verisum Family does not support this rally.
oh no!
all three of you condemn this rally!
what ever will the Amarr Empire do?
Point you as Empress and all IU as sub-slaves. That would probably suffice your ego.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:36:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Revan Neferis Communication In order to avoid misunderstandings let it be clarified that Verisum Family does not support this rally. It is an offense to conduct such thing without Sarum having an appointed heir.
That almost sounds as though we should prepare ourselves for yet another VF u-turn.
Quote: Regarding wars, no cease fire agreement was ever requested from /to VF. our wars proceeds as normal.
Then for your own sake, you and your hirelings should stay away from the rally.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.12 12:20:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis Communication In order to avoid misunderstandings let it be clarified that Verisum Family does not support this rally. It is an offense to conduct such thing without Sarum having an appointed heir.
That almost sounds as though we should prepare ourselves for yet another VF u-turn.
Quote: Regarding wars, no cease fire agreement was ever requested from /to VF. our wars proceeds as normal.
Then for your own sake, you and your hirelings should stay away from the rally.
Says who? The only one who could ever tell me where I should go or not is my husband Jeserat Verisum or an appointed Sarum official representant. For your own sake, mind your own corp.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.12 15:00:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 12/08/2006 15:00:05
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Says who? The only one who could ever tell me where I should go or not is my husband Jeserat Verisum or an appointed Sarum official representant. For your own sake, mind your own corp.
Yes, I'm sure that an appointed Sarum offical representative told you to align yourself with Blood Raiders and pirates.
Lady Jamyl must be rolling in her grave.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Commander Thrawn
Fluffy rabbit killer's inc
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Posted - 2006.08.12 16:40:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 12/08/2006 15:00:05
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Says who? The only one who could ever tell me where I should go or not is my husband Jeserat Verisum or an appointed Sarum official representant. For your own sake, mind your own corp.
Yes, I'm sure that an appointed Sarum offical representative told you to align yourself with Blood Raiders and pirates.
Lady Jamyl must be rolling in her grave.
lol
even Minmatar heritics, aren't so low as too align themselves with Blood raiders. Revan must truly be mad.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.13 01:59:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Archbishop on 13/08/2006 02:01:10
I am honored to report a prestigious representative of the Theology Council itself will be present at Dam Torstad to great the arriving convoy of ships from Amarr after the rally. This high ranking member of the Theology Council will speak at that time regarding the importance of an Emperor and His place in our lives. While the rally itself will be an experience to cherish having this special honored guest speak to us makes Dam Torstad the center of the Rally in reality.
Also the Rally has a guest speaker scheduled. This person has dedicated his life to the Empire and will lead us in a prayer for House Sarum that a new heir might ascend the family and take his or her place among the five legal heirs thus affording House Sarum representation when an Emperor is chosen. Several have asked about this and it is agreed House Sarum should be represented if possible.
All who attend the rally and travel to Dam Torstad afterwards for the meeting with His Lordship are asked to be respectful and courteous. It is not every day an honored representative of the Theology Council arrives to speak to the people of Amarr. We must not forget our place. His Lordship is a traditionalist and should be addressed as either "your Lordship" or "Deacon".
Archbishop Rally Organizer
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.13 02:02:00 -
[63]
Jamyl isn't dead. 
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Astarte Nosferatu
House Nosferatu Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.13 11:22:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Jamyl isn't dead. 
My thoughts exactly .
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Arron S
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.13 12:02:00 -
[65]
yes Archbishop sure can hear the word of god esp. after taking his Drop dose.
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Uzen Ghirraz
Amarr The Silver Hand
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Posted - 2006.08.13 18:19:00 -
[66]
I will be there.
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Aeina Caeraen
Caldari Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2006.08.13 20:54:00 -
[67]
Apparently, CONCORD decided to attend the rally: Camera Drone Link 1 Camera Drone Link 2 Sensor Enhanced
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.13 22:33:00 -
[68]
The rally was a huge success with over 100 captains participating as attendees. The audience heard from several dignitaries including His Lordship Deacon Lozerno Azir of the Theology Council and Grand Master Horm of the Tetrimon faith.
Thank you all for attending. I will be posting a full report along with exclusive photographs of the rally here soon.
Archbishop
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maGz
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.13 22:36:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Archbishop
The rally was a huge success with over 100 captains participating as attendees. The audience heard from several dignitaries including His Lordship Deacon Lozerno Azir of the Theology Council and Grand Master Horm of the Tetrimon faith.
Thank you all for attending. I will be posting a full report along with exclusive photographs of the rally here soon.
Archbishop
Uuuhhh everyone can take pictures of the inside of a station, so what's so exclusive about your photographs?   ________________
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.13 22:37:00 -
[70]
Quote: Uuuhhh everyone can take pictures of the inside of a station, so what's so exclusive about your photographs?
Official photographs are taken by official photographers. Any others are disallowed. Also the vanatage point of photos taken from the podium to the audience is quite different from others. Since the podium was a restricted are not anyone could just walk up and take a photo.
I hope that satisfactorily answers your question. I know as a pirate youre a busy person.
Archbishop
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.14 07:20:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 14/08/2006 07:23:15
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Revan Neferis Communication
Verisum Family does not support this rally.
oh no!
all three of you condemn this rally!
what ever will the Amarr Empire do?
Originally by: Aeina Caeraen Apparently, CONCORD decided to attend the rally: Camera Drone Link 1 Camera Drone Link 2 Sensor Enhanced
Concord had plenty of reasons to decide to attend. After proving unable to secure The rally, it was held in doors and no procession to Dam Torsad happened. This is to prove that things are not in control of the hands of the ones who claims to hold it. The Empire is changing.
To the rally itself, in doors many interesting things was said. backdoors, even more. Time of reflection.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |

Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.14 08:45:00 -
[72]
Plans spoiled perchance Revan? *Sits back and chuckles*
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.08.14 09:15:00 -
[73]
Revan wasn't even in Amarr - must have been holographic images that attended.
Now recruiting!
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Sieesa
Amarr Liberated Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.14 14:05:00 -
[74]
Please note....the Lady of Verisum made no comment that she actually attended..merely that interesting things were said...Never assume that you hold all the cards just because you have four aces in your hand....the game can change at any moment.
Sieesa Morgan.
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