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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:13:01
Quote: Ummm excuse me.. but I think somewhere inside of this post you hit the nail riggggght on the head. Yes they are facts, and yes that IS what matters. Or what are you looking for?? Fairy tales?
The fact that Eliphants are the largest land fairing mammal is a fact, but it is of no relevence here. Much the same way that the little list you brought up was in fact created, but it doesn't prove or disprove you're point. So why bring it up?
Quote: This is a tadbit confusing. Your saying one can only be 100% sure of something if he himself said it? I dont need to have said it to be 100% sure that these quotes were cut and pasted directly off the private Sinister / CA forums. Which they infact were, as I offered to prove to you if you want to challenge their validity.
How did you get them off these private boards? COuld it have been from a disgruntled Sinister or CA member who may have a bone to pick with their former commrades? Is it impossible that they have undergone some editing in between the cutting and pasting?
Quote: Yes, you can either stop fighting their war for them (afterall it was their decision to start it), or you can convince them to undergo a complete political surrender, with following reinbursments payments (which have not yet been, named, so I find it funny how you already state them to be unpayable).
It has been stated many times by former Sinister victims that they demand "full" reinbursments, meaning 100%.
Quote: Considering they are infact a large and organized alliance of supposedly profesionals players, one should assume that they can indeed be made responsible for their actions like any mature person should be expected to. If they cannot be, I would question your reasoning in allying to a corporation who deems itself not responsible for its own actions, and avoids responsiblity by simply running away.
They have been chased across the universe, been forced to disband, and suffered substancial losses. This is nothing?
Quote: I could ask the same of you.
Please refernce my first reply to one of your senseless posts.
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:14:14 I swear I didnt hit the post button.
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:13:33 wtf?
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:15:35 please delete
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:16:26 please delete
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:16:03 please delete
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:15:12 please delete
________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |

dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 10/10/2003 03:07:22
Quote: Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 10/10/2003 00:14:48 please delete
Try to hit the "edit" button, and then the "delete" button yourself
Double posts can be ok, but you must have worked hard to make 8 posts
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Nasty Ways
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:25:00 -
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Quote: How did you get them off these private boards? COuld it have been from a disgruntled Sinister or CA member who may have a bone to pick with their former commrades? Is it impossible that they have undergone some editing in between the cutting and pasting?
He offered two times to tell you the names of the posters so you can check back with them.
But obviously you think it makes you look cool if you just continue trying to look... stupid.
Now watch how he will attack me for the 2nd point, while evading the 1st...
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who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |

Xeris
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Posted - 2003.10.10 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Xeris on 10/10/2003 01:43:55 Edited by: Xeris on 10/10/2003 01:43:38
Quote:
Quote:
So, in short, you post like you fight.
And if you fight like you post, the enemy has the difficult task of destroying you before you do.
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Quote: And if you fight like you post, the enemy has the difficult task of destroying you before you do.
dude, owned.
reclaimer, go kill yourself.
So, whats it like to suck your own ****?
Too lazy to get my sig changed |

Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.10 01:45:00 -
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are you suggesting the 'mr blonde' is I? |

Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 10/10/2003 07:53:40
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The fact that Eliphants are the largest land fairing mammal is a fact, but it is of no relevence here. Much the same way that the little list you brought up was in fact created, but it doesn't prove or disprove you're point. So why bring it up?
Your just acting stupid now. Every child can see the relevance between the posted quotes and the discussion at hand, yet you cant. I suggest you fly to empire space, look for a non-minmatar, and then have him explain it to you in a 5 day seminar. Apparently anything less is futile.
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How did you get them off these private boards? COuld it have been from a disgruntled Sinister or CA member who may have a bone to pick with their former commrades? Is it impossible that they have undergone some editing in between the cutting and pasting?
Geez, 3 times I offer you to proove it to you personally, and 3 times you ignore it, and post the same garbage. As I stated before. They are 100% accurate. Stop making an idiot out of yourself by ignoring what I write.
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It has been stated many times by former Sinister victims that they demand "full" reinbursments, meaning 100%.
Do you actually think the process of political surrender with following payments would be one conducted by the full board of victims? You are truly either completely naive, or an idiot.
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They have been chased across the universe, been forced to disband, and suffered substancial losses. This is nothing?
Yes, it is nothing, compared to what will happen if they choose to continue. By the way, having 4-5 of their members now playing under a different corp tag is not really what I would consider "disbanding".
Why cant the CA or Oracle send people to the boards who arent complete muppets? I have yet to encounter a post by you guys that has even started to scratch any of the brought arguments, much less actually prove something. Picking apart my posts and throwing random insubstantial assumptions, and faulty logical conclusions around isnt exactly awe inspiring.
(and ya, press edit -> delete to get rid of those multiple posts..)
The Chronicles of Xanadu |

dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 11:15:00 -
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May I ask what members of CA are doing in Aunenen? One of the few places where pirates hang out.
When I passed through yesterday, there were one member of Shinra and one member of Section 13(or section 8, I can't remember which one is the one in CA).
And you guys are really trying to make us believe that there are no pirates in CA?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2003.10.10 11:33:00 -
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I'd just like to remind all parties that my services are still available incase you wish to move your discussions beyond the mere constraints of these forums. The fee is but nominal.
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Thumbar
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Posted - 2003.10.10 11:33:00 -
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Dalman
OMG I have seen members of Mass and Sinister ships in the same system they must be in cahoots :p. Your ignorance about curse really shines through when you suggest Section XIII members would engage in piracy. Who died and gave you the right to decide where people could fly in the Eve universe anyway?
What we have with SA are a bunch of people who are ignorant but think they now it all, that think they can impose their will on the rest of the world by force, then fail at it time and time again and get their ass handed to them. Wait a minute this all sounds vaguely familiar to me. Where have I heard this story before?
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Macky
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Posted - 2003.10.10 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Macky on 10/10/2003 11:46:46 blah blah blah....this conflict is as natural as me taking p1ss after a few beers.
and i still want the 100 mils that you pirates owe me, if you skanks are too cheap to redeem yourselves with isk send leya over. if she turns out to be a guy im gonna have to kill him, after getting my satisfication of course.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:07:00 -
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Thumbar,
I was asking why they were there if not for pirateing. Instead you just make a post without content.
I'm saying that: *Aunenen is a well-known system where pirates camp. *There was only 2 people in local when i jumped in, both CA. *They were NOT passing through, they had stopped in that system. *They were not afk (or at least not the Shinra guy, since he responded in local(all he said was "STFU" though )). *There are abolutely no reason for anyone to mine or chain NPC's in that system.
So, unless you can tell me what they are doing there, I'll say they are camping.
And to say they are camping for us makes no sence at all. MASS members "never" pass through there. I doubt any other SA or FA do that either.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Yuen
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:51:00 -
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Quote:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sinister are still pirates. They are playing a shell game with people and characters. Their ideals have never changed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please present proof of this, rather than simply words. As stated we will do our utmost to bring any such incident to a satisfactory conclusion for all parties involved.
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I've seen CA members working with Pirates in other regions in the last week and not just Sinister. I've seen pirates at blockades allow CA members to pass unharmed.
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Where, when, by who?
Maybe in Catch Region? Dear Sarkos, try ask your fellas Cyrus Virus and Milk... maybe they can enlighten you about it. but please DO it... seems that Catch is outside Curse... or it would be namen CURSE instead of CATCH. Am I wrong sir?
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Thumbar
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Posted - 2003.10.10 13:38:00 -
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"*There are abolutely no reason for anyone to mine or chain NPC's in that system."
The mighty Dalman has spoken so it must be so.
Actually this "we cant prove anything we claim but you can't prove our unproven claims are wrong" tactic kinda rings a bell. If only I could remember where I've seen it used before:p
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Thumbar
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Posted - 2003.10.10 13:40:00 -
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Yuen, you might want to wake up and realise CA and SA are at war, what did you think, they would only shoot you in curse?
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Uber Miner
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:36:00 -
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Quote:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sinister are still pirates. They are playing a shell game with people and characters. Their ideals have never changed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please present proof of this, rather than simply words. As stated we will do our utmost to bring any such incident to a satisfactory conclusion for all parties involved.
quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've seen CA members working with Pirates in other regions in the last week and not just Sinister. I've seen pirates at blockades allow CA members to pass unharmed.
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Where, when, by who?
Maybe in Catch Region? Dear Sarkos, try ask your fellas Cyrus Virus and Milk... maybe they can enlighten you about it. but please DO it... seems that Catch is outside Curse... or it would be namen CURSE instead of CATCH. Am I wrong sir?
Stain freely admits to killing people in the Catch Region. I guess they are pirates. Or, the product of a massive double-standard.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:54:00 -
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Quote: Yuen, you might want to wake up and realise CA and SA are at war, what did you think, they would only shoot you in curse?
May I enlight you with explaining this for you?
One of the reasons for the current war is that players like Cyrus and Milk were shooting at SA pilots at gates in Catch BEFORE the war started.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 15:01:00 -
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Quote: "*There are abolutely no reason for anyone to mine or chain NPC's in that system."
The mighty Dalman has spoken so it must be so.
Thumbar,
     
You're still not explaining what they were doing. Or are you trying to tell me that a single member from Shinra would make 40+ jumps to either: *mine by his own without a corpmate in an indy *chain 6k NPC's in a system where pirates camp most of the day(pirates which would shoot at this Shinra member unless they were friends)  
    
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 10/10/2003 17:09:12
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...You may kill a few cheap indy's....
Edit: Forgot to add that you were camping a gate with drones deployed. Three battleships (2 LVL2's) and one Blackbird met their end. You're gonna have to get a whole lot of indy's to make up for that failure.
Well ok... since you are to afraid, to lazy or to stupid to defend your allies indies we will continue to kill them. I'm sure you kewl dudes are way to busy manning your jump-in lag traps and gate camps to actually defend your allies.
Those "few", "cheap" indies have numbered about a dozen so far this week (and this week isnĘt over yet) and given us about 1500 Bistot. We figure each full indy is worth about three million or more when you take into account the ship, modules, and cargo. We avergae killing three per day which have more than covered our limited losses.
I admire Singular, unlike oyu he has a pair. I think Bach has destroyed his ship like three or four times this week and he keeps on coming back for more. You have to admire his tenacity.
Talk to Cosmology again and ask him to use smaller words. You did not get the story correct the first time. No drones, we chased him several systems and he logged out when we had him trapped and almost dead. No losses on out side. Two Scorpions and a Blackbird setup for chasing down indies could not kill a megathron in two minutes but we did get about 80% of the way there. But hey, he gave us a good chase and was tough enough to survive long enough to log out so he deserved to get away.
You may have the last word. This thread has gone way off it's topic and I won't post in it again.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Yuen
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:37:00 -
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Quote: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yuen, you might want to wake up and realise CA and SA are at war, what did you think, they would only shoot you in curse? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May I enlight you with explaining this for you?
One of the reasons for the current war is that players like Cyrus and Milk were shooting at SA pilots at gates in Catch BEFORE the war started.
Thanks Dalman, hope he'll understand this time. And, BTW Turam, that was to answer to who told that no CA were taking action OUTSIDE curse. Read the post before answering in a stupid way.
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:55:00 -
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Quote: May I ask what members of CA are doing in Aunenen? One of the few places where pirates hang out.
When I passed through yesterday, there were one member of Shinra and one member of Section 13(or section 8, I can't remember which one is the one in CA).
And you guys are really trying to make us believe that there are no pirates in CA?
I have seen MASS and EVOL in the legendary pirate nests PF and FD many times. So you must be pirates then. Interesting. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |

Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:59:00 -
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Seriously people. Do you really think you will achieve anything by posting long arguments here on this board. A 12 years old whould realize by now that this is just a contest in making the other side look bad. If you want facts or a serious discussion then contact any of the leaders ingame. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |

Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:42:00 -
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yes noctoz, that maks sense.
go talk to sarkos, leader of oracle. according to him it's a fact that evolution has no reason ot be in fountain killing sinister and their allies.
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.10.10 22:05:00 -
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Will you dudes shut up, you've embarrassed both sides enough.
Lets just kill each other and stuff.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.10.10 22:50:00 -
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im not embarresed :? we give facts you twist the truth and lie :D we have nothing to be embarresed about :D
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