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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:23:00 -
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This card gives all ships you control +1 attack if they have the same orgins as your starbase.
Now, does that mean any ship playable by that starbase, which would include things like say, an incursis for Caldari, or kestrel for minmatar, or would it be the one and true race orgin?
If the latter, isnt that something that people who don't play the MMO will not know?
I'm guessing it's just any ship you can play (which in my caldari deck's case, would exclude say, a Navitas that I take over with mutiny)?
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.06 08:45:00 -
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That would be my guess, I wonder how that would effect ships that you play directly into Serpentis Prime though...or if it would effect them at all...
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Qual
Gallente XanCom
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Posted - 2006.08.06 19:54:00 -
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If they have the race symbol of your race, its covered by this. For the purpuses of the CCG a ship like the Crusifier counts as both Amarr and Caldari.
"The short version: Qual is right." - Papa Smurf |
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Tallest
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Posted - 2006.08.07 05:59:00 -
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You can see the race origin of a ship by looking at the background of the card.
Crucifier is an Amarr ship, so it would only receive a bonus from Central Fleet Command if you have an Amarr starbase.
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Qual
Gallente XanCom
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Posted - 2006.08.07 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Qual on 07/08/2006 06:39:01
Originally by: Tallest You can see the race origin of a ship by looking at the background of the card.
Crucifier is an Amarr ship, so it would only receive a bonus from Central Fleet Command if you have an Amarr starbase.
You are kidding me right?
That REALLY needs a rulebook clarification. Especiallt as the rulebook specificly refers the the little left corner icon as the "Race Icon" in page 10 of the rule book. The background of the card is in no way reffered to in the rules as having any significance.
The only thing that talk for your interpretation is you "dev" icon and the fact that the term "Origen" is not covered at all in the rulebook.
I was, as I think many would, translating the Origen concept to be equal to Race as nothing else is hinted in the rulebook about such a differentiation.
"The short version: Qual is right." - Papa Smurf |
Trak Cranker
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Trak Cranker on 07/08/2006 11:17:01 I think the card is quite clear. Ship has to be of same race as your base. Otherwise it would just say all your ships.
Because they can't be in your deck if they don't have the race symbol on them(or none ofc.). The symbol in it self don't make them of that race or of that origin. It just designates if that race can use them.
I agree though. The rulebook needs to specify that distinction for non-Eve'rs.
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Qual
Gallente XanCom
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker Edited by: Trak Cranker on 07/08/2006 11:17:01 Because they can't be in your deck if they don't have the race symbol on them(or none ofc.). The symbol in it self don't make them of that race or of that origin. It just designates if that race can use them.
Well, until I have seen the text on all cards, I cant really rule out that a card might be able to make a ship change controller...
You read read it with knowledge og EVE-Online in mind. I try to read all cards and rules without taking that knowledge with me.
Which in the case of this cards really leaves two options.
a) Its a poorly phrased card that really refers to race.
b) A card that refers to a concept that is not to find anywhere in the rulebook, and not defined on the card.
In the gaming communites I frequent option a) would win due to it beeing the most simple explanation.
"The short version: Qual is right." - Papa Smurf |
Qual
Gallente XanCom
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
In the gaming communites I frequent option a) would win due to it beeing the most simple explanation.
My point is not to convince you that my reading of the card is right. be course its now clear tat it isn't. Im just pointing out how important it is to inlcude a definition for "Origin" in the rulebook, and define how card origen is seen on the cards.
"The short version: Qual is right." - Papa Smurf |
Trak Cranker
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker
I agree though. The rulebook needs to specify that distinction for non-Eve'rs.
:)
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Brokkur Helfari
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Posted - 2006.08.07 18:51:00 -
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You can blame me on this one Qual ;)
Tallest is indeed correct. The fact of the matter is that for the longest time, the ships all had their race origin written under "Card type". Such as:
Merlin Caldari ship > Frigate
Sigil Amarr ship > Industrial
But since the cards could easily be identified by their background color, we decided to save some space and skip the race origin since it also made the cards look "cleaner". Unfortunately there are (at least) two cards in the Core Set that target ships of a certain race origin without any further explanation, other than that players can see that same background and race name on the starbases:
Central Fleet Command "All ships that you control which have the same race origin as your starbase get [attack +1]."
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War Tattoos "Target Minmatar ship gets [attack +1] until end of turn..."
Regards,
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Qual
Gallente XanCom
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Brokkur Helfari You can blame me on this one Qual ;)
I dont blame people for mistakes. Would ruin my professional life as a bug hunter/systems tester...
"The short version: Qual is right." - Papa Smurf |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.07 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Brokkur Helfari You can blame me on this one Qual ;)
I dont blame people for mistakes. Would ruin my professional life as a bug hunter/systems tester...
I'll blame him for you then.
Does this mean you're going to have Pirate faction starbases when those cards come out, or will they be multi-racial?
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Draaken
Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.26 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Brokkur Helfari You can blame me on this one Qual ;)
Tallest is indeed correct. The fact of the matter is that for the longest time, the ships all had their race origin written under "Card type". Such as:
Merlin Caldari ship > Frigate
How are all the "Scout" ships treated then (Ibis, Velator etc), since they don't have a race icon .. would I go by the background and knowing that Ibis is Caldari, it's only affected by Central Fleet Command if I have a Caldari Tower? Or are those Scouts affected no matter what the tower/scout combination is? ____________________ first!!1!! -Capsicum
Originally by: Wrangler I lock, therefor I am.
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Tallest
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:02:00 -
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We have already stated that the race has nothing to do with the race icons in the upper left corner. Those are only there to determine which races can play the cards. The race of any given ship is determined by the background of the card. The Ibis is on a blue background with a large caldari symbol covering the lower half of the background. Thats a Caldari ship.
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