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Cista2
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:13:00 -
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In the video about Oceanus, they say that groups of modules will be "condensed", so that "we don't have any of the junk named modules that noone has any use for".
Can anyone explain what this means, or link to more info?
Does it mean that some modules will no longer drop as mission loot as that "useless" type, but as a more generic useful type?
Does it mean that redundant modules will cease to exist in game? Or will they still have a separate market slot? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:18:00 -
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I would tell you because I totally know everything about that but I won't cause I'm such a biatch.
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Solette Cheli
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:22:00 -
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I can't think of that making sense.. Unless they mean merging different modules, but I can't think of any examples where that would work.
I doubt they're going to be removing meta1-3 items either, since they're not used much. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:35:00 -
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The FanFest presentation CCP Fozzie and CCP Rise gave suggests things like the various lazers - Imp Navy, Sansha, Blood EANMs (and a couple of others) are (IIRC) absolutely identical; the idea appears to be to make each better in one sense, be it range, tracking, fitting, cap use...etc.
How that might apply to (for example) the EANMs is an interesting question however.
They may also be talking about T2 mods where the Meta 4 is at least as good, easier to fit and cheaper (see the list thread in Ships and Modules). |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:36:00 -
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I can only assume he was talking about age old modules that don't exist anymore ...
... but that's a slippery slope to walk on.
Like all the old gyrostabs that are of no use anymore, but are still on the market.
Will players get compensated if they are removed?
Questions about questions ... speculation leads nowhere in this case.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.09.25 08:52:00 -
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Now what is the chance they'll just skip the devblog and release it without details and feedback?
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague
The Bastion
374
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:13:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Now what is the chance they'll just skip the devblog and release it without details and feedback?
I'll give that 90% and force players to create their own tables. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:15:00 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:The FanFest presentation CCP Fozzie and CCP Rise gave suggests things like the various lazers - Imp Navy, Sansha, Blood EANMs (and a couple of others) are (IIRC) absolutely identical; the idea appears to be to make each better in one sense, be it range, tracking, fitting, cap use...etc.
How that might apply to (for example) the EANMs is an interesting question however.
They may also be talking about T2 mods where the Meta 4 is at least as good, easier to fit and cheaper (see the list thread in Ships and Modules).
That would be very sad.
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Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers
GANOR INC.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:37:00 -
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http://www.schildwall.info/screen/2014-09-23_20-52-37.png
My guess is that they will change the fitting of T1 to like the current Meta 4. Acording to this Screenshot there will only be two variants betwen T1 and T2, one will probably be the old Meta 4, and the other one probably with more AmunitionCargo, fof or something like this. |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:40:00 -
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Gosti Kahanid wrote:http://www.schildwall.info/screen/2014-09-23_20-52-37.png
My guess is that they will change the fitting of T1 to like the current Meta 4. Acording to this Screenshot there will only be two variants betwen T1 and T2, one will probably be the old Meta 4, and the other one probably with more AmunitionCargo, fof or something like this.
Am I understanding this right?
They might remove variants of modules with lower cpu needs?
That makes no sense...
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden
Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:42:00 -
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Removal or fixing of Defender missiles. |
Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:02:00 -
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My read is, it's part of a long-ranged effort to rename modules to names that more closely define what the module does, and to remove duplications, or modules made obsolete (sic) by game changes, or newer modules.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Cista2
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:00:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:My read is, it's part of a long-ranged effort to rename modules to names that more closely define what the module does, and to remove duplications, or modules made obsolete (sic) by game changes, or newer modules.
Yes I think that is clear.
What I am wondering is, what then happens to those modules, if you have them in your inventory or fitted on a ship?.
Will they:
a) dissapear (hardly)
b) change name?
c) change stats?
d) will they go from marketable to non-marketable?
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Hengle Teron
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:52:00 -
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No what they said was, that during this "tiericide" for modules it can happen that some of the modules will have less types than now (meta 1-4) |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:13:00 -
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Cista2 wrote:In the video about Oceanus, they say that groups of modules will be "condensed", so that "we don't have any of the junk named modules that noone has any use for".
Can anyone explain what this means, or link to more info?
Does it mean that some modules will no longer drop as mission loot as that "useless" type, but as a more generic useful type?
Does it mean that redundant modules will cease to exist in game? Or will they still have a separate market slot?
i think they mean getting rid of meta 0 named mods, like the garbage in the 'hull upgrades' market group noone uses
so all t1 named mods will be the non-crap meta 1-4 |
Bill Lane
Military Gamers
The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:02:00 -
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There is a dev blog out on this. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-eve-one-module-at-a-time/ Enjoy.
http://www.militarygamers.com/ |
Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries
Limitless Redux
85
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:11:00 -
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They're changing the way the modules work, so for like lasers there will be one with lower cpu usage than the rest, one with lower powergrid, one with higher rate of fire, one with higher something or other.
basically making each meta a sensible choice depending on what you are doing instead of just using T1/Meta4/T2 |
S'Way
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:22:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:For example, nobody today uses Gamma or Microwave crystals anymore.
Yes they do. How else can we make rainbow laser ships for drunken roams ?
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Rekkr Nordgard
Ghost Platoon Member
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:23:00 -
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Am I reading this correctly? Is the meta Restrained Capacitor Flux Coil module going to be better than the T2 version? That can't be right.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-oceanus |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:26:00 -
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They want to be rid of meta levels entirely. There will only be Tech I, Tech II, Tech III, etc, and N/P Faction.
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Thalos Elongus
30plus
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:04:00 -
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They will create different fitting options for each module.
Right now there are none, and they plan to create some options.
Each Meta 1-4 Tier will have a special purpose. Meta 1 = Less CPU , Meta 2 = Less cap etc... They only talked briefly about it in a vid i saw. That will make all tiers viable, if you need to fit a ship a specific way |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:35:00 -
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It means the EFT warriors are going to have their panties in a bunch, if CCP does it right. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:55:00 -
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Ocih wrote:It means the EFT warriors are going to have their panties in a bunch, if CCP does it right.
Why? This is content for TRUE eft warriors :)
Anyways, ill believe when i see it, if anything can be guessed from the drone rebalance the change will be more back and forth instead of changing anything.
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.26 00:28:00 -
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Thalos Elongus wrote:They will create different fitting options for each module.
Right now there are none, and they plan to create some options.
Each Meta 1-4 Tier will have a special purpose. Meta 1 = Less CPU , Meta 2 = Less cap etc... They only talked briefly about it in a vid i saw. That will make all tiers viable, if you need to fit a ship a specific way
Except this is CCP, and if the Dev BLOG is any indication about the direction the shooty stuff is going, they are going to have another threadnaught on their hands.
It looks like LMLs will only have two named modules, one with better fiting, and another with an increased ammo bin size, but the same fitting as the T1 M0 module. Both of those have a bit of a ROF buff to them (13.6s vs 16s ROF ) so the only viable option is the one with the increased ammo bin. Seriously, CCP is going to make a new must have, cause everything else kinda sucks, rebalance of the modules.
Hey at least we get to have a different name to our new meta four 1 modules, so we got that going for us.
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Seneca Auran
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.26 01:38:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:My read is, it's part of a long-ranged effort to rename modules to names that more closely define what the module does, and to remove duplications, or modules made obsolete (sic) by game changes, or newer modules.
I'm actually not fond of the name changes. It's nice to have some flavor in the game, and it shouldn't be too hard to just pick a handful of named modules in each group to "save" and simply make that particular module the 'bonus to range/reduction in cap use/whatever' version.
Should we do it with ships next? I mean, how the hell am I supposed to know that a "Vexor" is a drone cruiser? I mean sure I could click the information button and find out but what is this, a slave labor camp? |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:23:00 -
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Barton Breau wrote:Ocih wrote:It means the EFT warriors are going to have their panties in a bunch, if CCP does it right. Why? This is content for TRUE eft warriors :) Anyways, ill believe when i see it, if anything can be guessed from the drone rebalance the change will be more back and forth instead of changing anything.
The only fit I am having a hard time with is daisy chain, Guardian that relied on Solace repairs.
The T2 will take too much PG and CPU and the best case scenario I could fit was a loss of 20% repairs. |
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