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Samantha Kensington
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Posted - 2006.08.07 06:33:00 -
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I have a character that has maxed research skills and can operate 10 lab slots at once. I have another with maxed ME research skills, between the two characters currently I can run 15 lab jobs.
I am trying to setup a 2 man corp that will solely rent out Lab slots to the community to service the need for ME slots that empire is currently lacking (as in 7+ day wait times to research a single ammo BPO for 2 days, etc. etc.)
I wanted to purchase a medium POS put 5 labs on it and park it in 0.6 space.
My question is this: If my character is completely neutral to all factions and nations what standings do I need to aquire to be able to deploy the POS in 0.6 space?
I am very interested in knowing the quickest way to raise my standings if I need to, to whatever is needed. As I am gathering the last bits of POS parts, fuel and skills on the character I can spend time gaining faction with gallente if I need to.
Please help.
-Sammy
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Hockston Axe
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Posted - 2006.08.07 07:29:00 -
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IÆm not completely qualified to answer this, as IÆve never manned a POS myself, but to anchor in empire space you need a faction standing equal to the system sec you are anchoring in. i.e. to anchor in 0.6 Gallente Fed space you need a 6.0 standing with the Gallente Federation, 7.0 to anchor in 0.7 and so forth. From what IÆve picked up you only need the standing to anchor the tower and structures, if your corp standings were to drop you could still use the POS, but not be able to anchor new structures. (You also need to add starbase charters to your POS fuel calcs.)
Since you are using two characters it becomes more complicated, as BOTH characters will need to have high standings with Gallente to make your corp standing 6.0+ with the Fed. You will need corp standings of 6.0+ which is an average of all corp memberÆs (2 in your case) standings. Or you could get one character to 6.0+ standings, make your corp with only that one toon, setup your POS, then have your other character join the corp after youÆve set up the POS. Doing so will drag down your corp standings, so you canÆt anchor any new structures, but it saves you the considerable time required to raise two characters to 6.0+ faction standing.
As for getting your standings to the required levelà many will say Cosmos missions, which is true, however they generally require fairly high corp standings with the Cosmos agent corps and some higher level skills like hacking and archaeology to complete. Mission running is of course the only way to raise standings. Kill missions give the highest per mission corp standings, but thatÆs not what youÆre after. YouÆre after the storyline missions (given every 16 regular missions) and faction standing, which can be triggered the fastest by running multiple courier missions at once. Find a place where you can run 5 or 6 courier missions at a time, (and something else to do while your ship does the back and forth) and watch the storyline missions come rolling in. It will take quite a while to get your standings up there. You may want to find a nice 0.5 system to save you some time mission grinding (As youÆll only need a 5.0+ standing to anchor in.).
Hope that helps a bit and if IÆve gotten anything wrong I would assume someone would chime in with the right info.
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Samantha Kensington
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Posted - 2006.08.07 07:43:00 -
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So would the connections skill help this if I trained it up?
And is there anything else that would raise my faction standing with gal as well?
-Sammy
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar
The Phoenix Legionaires
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Posted - 2006.08.07 08:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Samantha Kensington
So would the connections skill help this if I trained it up?
And is there anything else that would raise my faction standing with gal as well?
-Sammy
Nope, the corp standings are based on your base standing, that is the standing before your connections skill.
COSMOS missions raise standings with factions.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hockston Axe
Since you are using two characters it becomes more complicated, as BOTH characters will need to have high standings with Gallente to make your corp standing 6.0+ with the Fed. You will need corp standings of 6.0+ which is an average of all corp memberÆs (2 in your case) standings. Or you could get one character to 6.0+ standings, make your corp with only that one toon, setup your POS, then have your other character join the corp after youÆve set up the POS. Doing so will drag down your corp standings, so you canÆt anchor any new structures, but it saves you the considerable time required to raise two characters to 6.0+ faction standing.
IIRC If the second pilot has NO standing towards the faction eg never has done a single mission for them or any other faction that may influence the standing towards that faction only the standing of the first pilot will be counted. At least that is how it works towards NPC<>Corp standings, not sure if that applies to factions as well.
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Samantha Kensington
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Samantha Kensington on 07/08/2006 15:07:58
Okay then three questions:
1. If I raise my connections skill on the character to say lvl 5, and then begin doing missions with the character (highly unsavory) the higher skill would let me go to higher lvl agents quicker correct? Which would allow my standings to increase faster?
2. If I have my connections skill high, and also have my concord skill high would that be a dual boost? Aka a agent from concord would then have his standing towards me raised by both skills or does concord not let 'connections' effect them and will only be effected by 'concord relations'.
3. From a totally neutral standings (never had the character leave the station) about how long would it take to get from 0.00 standing with gallente to 6.0?
-Sammy
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Ricdics
Dreadnought Production INC
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:27:00 -
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Hey there. Contact me in-game and join my operation. I have a large POS in empire doing the same service you have advised of. Join me, will save you the required standings levels, as well as the POS costs. If you have already purchased, I will purchase off you.
We might even be able to organise something where i rent you labs or something to this effect. I will likely be building a second POS sooner or later and would want a competent pilot to run the operation.
I run up to 20 mobile laboratories through my research outpost. Click linkies below and/or convo for a chat.
Insured Research and Production Services
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Ricdics
Dreadnought Production INC
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Samantha Kensington
3. From a totally neutral standings (never had the character leave the station) about how long would it take to get from 0.00 standing with gallente to 6.0?
-Sammy
In all honesty, I would say 3 weeks of extremely heavy grinding, or at least 10 weeks of relatively hard work, or if you simply do a few missions a day, around 4-6 months.
Ricdic is my main, and the one anchored this POS. His gallente federation standing is approx 7.3 base, and he must have completed hundreds of level 4 missions, I would say he has built up anywhere close to 20 million LP in his mission running time (if he hadnt accepted offers). Occasionally didn't take the important missions for various reasons though. It is your call, but doing this your way is going to take you weeks to get to the required levels.
Having said that, whether you join us or not, I wish you the best of luck and offer you my advice whenever you need it.
Cheers
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Samantha Kensington
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Posted - 2006.08.08 06:38:00 -
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It isn't that I'm against working with someone else, mostly however it is I want a share of the profits and benifits too. I have everything in place just like you do, the POS, the character with the skills, the POS fuel for 4+ months, and the labs and defenses I'll need.
The only thing is, I have a bunch of my own BPO's I wanted to run through before I opened to the general public. Just the crap ones I don't want to wait 7+ days to get a slot for litterally 1 day worth of research.
While the idea is appealing of having it already setup, I don't know anymore what to do with this large standings problem in my way. I'm obviously willing to move it down to a 0.5 and go from there but that's still many months of crap. I'm exploring other options as well.
Such as:
1. Finding a player with 6.0 standing with gall.
2. Have them anchor the tower I need (requires lvl 4 anchoring)
3. Find one willing to give me the cost of the tower as a deposit while it anchors.
4. Then be willing to trade their deposit back for control of the corp and maybe give them 50 mill in return for the service.
5. Maybe as further payment offer them a lab slot for free for a month that I can run any BPO's through for them (like a swarm of ammo ones).
Alot of if's in there. But it is something I'm debating, I honestly don't know.
-Sammy
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Ethel Strudel
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Samantha Kensington
Edited by: Samantha Kensington on 07/08/2006 15:07:58
Okay then three questions:
1. If I raise my connections skill on the character to say lvl 5, and then begin doing missions with the character (highly unsavory) the higher skill would let me go to higher lvl agents quicker correct? Which would allow my standings to increase faster?
2. If I have my connections skill high, and also have my concord skill high would that be a dual boost? Aka a agent from concord would then have his standing towards me raised by both skills or does concord not let 'connections' effect them and will only be effected by 'concord relations'.
3. From a totally neutral standings (never had the character leave the station) about how long would it take to get from 0.00 standing with gallente to 6.0?
-Sammy
1. The Connections will let you get to higher level agents quicker but the Social skill will give you a higher percentage gain for each mission, so it helps to get them both up. In reality you will likely only need to get connections up to level 2 or 3 if you are grinding missions because by the time you are capable of going to higher level missions the grinding will have them available anyway.
2. Concord standing won't affect anything as you can't do missions for Concord.
3. This is a really hard one to answer! I did this a few months ago to create a research character and get their standings up with one of the R&D corps. I use them to afk courier missions and within a couple of weeks they were capable of doing level 4 courier missions with constant grinding. However, the skills take a while to catch up with that, so that held them back a little before they could start them (like having decent hauler skills for the bigger loads). You also have to factor in that even though you can do exclusively courier missions, it is the storyline ones that get your faction standings up and the majority of these have been kill missions. So you need another character capable of doing these on their behalf or it is a waste of time.
I have also done some of the COSMOS missions and whilst its true that they do give good faction gains for every second or third mission, they can take some time to while you work out how to get the items that the missions tend to require.
Ethel.
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Ricdics
Dreadnought Production INC
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Samantha Kensington
Such as:
1. Finding a player with 6.0 standing with gall.
2. Have them anchor the tower I need (requires lvl 4 anchoring)
3. Find one willing to give me the cost of the tower as a deposit while it anchors.
4. Then be willing to trade their deposit back for control of the corp and maybe give them 50 mill in return for the service.
5. Maybe as further payment offer them a lab slot for free for a month that I can run any BPO's through for them (like a swarm of ammo ones).
Alot of if's in there. But it is something I'm debating, I honestly don't know.
-Sammy
I am all for competition. God knows there is enough demand for us both to profit independently. My other account Ricdic is the one anchoring the current POS. The biggest problem, is that the person you want to join and set up your POS will have to stay in your corp for anywhere between 10-20 days just waiting for corp faction standings to match that of the player.
I would be happy to do the same for you if it werent for the huge amounts of time required to be in the corporation before the standings actually take effect. Unforunately, I see your only option as having to grind heavily.
My offer can be extended to you running your POS on a neighbouring moon in my corporation. You would have a couple of your own corp hangars to run your own services, as well as access to our contractors for work (secure as bpo's can't be taken). You could either do your own thing, or work as a branch of our corporation, handling part of our customer base. As long as you handled all of your own fuel etc requirements, I would charge you small weekly fee etc, or something of this sort. However, it really depends on the way it is run.
You have everything required to get started except the most important thing which is standings. I am offering mine, and the offer will only be open for approx 24 hours before our POS is deployed and standings begin to dilute due to non-standings people joining the corporation. Your POS would be your own to do with as you like, and offer whatever services you like. I suggest at the very least that you contact me in-game in around 4 hours and we can have a chat and see if there is a way we can work together in an environment that we are both comfortable with. Having your own POS means that you aren't costing me any money. And yes, mine will also be in gallente space, a lovely 0.6 system with an ice belt in a 0.7 1 jump away.
Cheers
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Traderguy
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Posted - 2006.08.13 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Traderguy on 13/08/2006 11:57:42
Originally by: Samantha Kensington
1. Finding a player with 6.0 standing with gall.
2. Have them anchor the tower I need (requires lvl 4 anchoring)
-Sammy
My main is a mission runner and has Gallente standing of over 7, cant remember exact figure, may be over 8 by now. I have my own solo corp which has corp standings with Fed Customs and Fed Intel of over 9 (not that this applies here)
I would be willing to do the anchoring (I neeed a couple more lvls of Anchoring first) I can pay you the deposit no problem and I would ask in return not cash, but use of a slot for my upcoming Tier 3 BS BPO's, to take them to ME 25 Pe 15 then make a pile of copies. Current Pos ME slots are going for around 10 to 12 mill per month so the total would be around +- 50mill
If helpful I can join your corp for the time it takes to anchor the tower and can do so again in future if expansion is required.
Additionally if you require any Jump clones my corp can do this for you, thro Fed Customs or Intel. reply here if interested this character is usually offline.
Can also ofer any services to mr Ricdics if I can help.
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Erast Akunin
Akunin Shipyards
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Posted - 2006.08.14 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Erast Akunin on 14/08/2006 09:23:21
Guys, im planning to deploy small POS (only for research purposes) to empire space.
Question: What are approx. fuel costs with small POS per month?
Sorry for thread hijacking 
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Contralto
Gallente
Binary Fringe inc
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Erast Akunin
Edited by: Erast Akunin on 14/08/2006 09:23:21
Guys, im planning to deploy small POS (only for research purposes) to empire space.
Question: What are approx. fuel costs with small POS per month?
Sorry for thread hijacking
I think the thread is yours OP seems to have abandoned it
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Traderguy
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Posted - 2006.09.06 09:14:00 -
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Check your mail Sammy
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