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Nashrak Lighthammer
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Posted - 2006.08.07 14:38:00 -
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Greetings Evelings,
I would like to know how to mahe the perfect miner /refiner.
What race should he have ?
What kind of education ?
Where to put the bonus stats ?
What skills are important, what should he learn ?
How many Sp would this miner need to be"perfect" ?
what ship should he fly ?
Should he learn to use drones ?
Please let your brainjuices flow, and tell me your opinions.
And remember :
The minerals must flow...
Best regards,
Nashrak
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Hopey
Gallente L.O.S.T. Foundation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Hopey on 07/08/2006 16:03:45
Originally by: Nashrak Lighthammer Greetings Evelings,
I would like to know how to mahe the perfect miner /refiner.
What race should he have ?
not sure that race is as important as starting stats - but IMO, Gallente make good miners :)
What kind of education ?
if you mean in terms of char creation, then you might just wanna pick the 'miner' class, or use this toolto get you where you want to go
Where to put the bonus stats ?
can't go wrong with Int, Mem or Willpower - but go to the item database and check out a miner's skills, pick your attributes based on which skills need what
What skills are important, what should he learn ?
for mining you should get industry skills (like mining, refining, ice harvesting), drone skills (for mining drones), spaceship command that finally lets you get into a mining barge (and beyond), some trade skills (to sell bits), and then other skills you find will benefit you
How many Sp would this miner need to be"perfect" ?
not sure that there's ever a 'perfect' character defined on SP - i have a 4 million sp miner who has a LONG way still to go - yes, i have some great skills, but i can't use exhumers, i can't refine all materials at the same level, i need to finish up on Drone Interfacing so i can get to Adv. Drone Interfacing, etc, etc - I think with the current choices i have in my queue (check out Eve-mon for long-term planning) i'll end up with about 6 million SP's, but will still have a LOT of skills to learn that'll help me be a 'perfect' miner
what ship should he fly ?
[b]depends on race and skill - look in the item database at ships, most races have a 'mining frigate' you can use till you progress to (say) a cruiser, although I realised that i wasted a lot of time mining in a cruiser as opposed to mining in a barge with strip miners attached - if you're serious about mining, I'd work towards getting into a barge asap but until then, a frigate/destroyer/cruiser will suffice
Should he learn to use drones ?
[b] yes, yes, and yes again. it's a long-road, but when you get to Drone 5/Drone Interfacing 5/Advanced Drone Interfacing 5 then you get (i believe) 10 drones that are 100% more effective than the 5 drones you can control at just Drone 5. One drone doesn't help much when mining on a big scale, 5-10 drones CAN make a difference. It's another good reason to go Gallente :P
Please let your brainjuices flow, and tell me your opinions.
And remember :
The minerals must flow...
Best regards,
Nashrak
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Hopey
Gallente L.O.S.T. Foundation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 16:08:00 -
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man, when did these forums get SO damn flaky?
just took me like 10 attempts to get this response right :|
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Hopey |L.O.S.T. Foundation ~~~~| |

Hopey
Gallente L.O.S.T. Foundation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 16:18:00 -
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Oh, and about the drones - i mentioned mining drones, but one of the most beneficial uses i've found for them are a deterrent while mining - if i have a horde of combat drones buzzing around me while I'm orbiting a rock, i've seen pirates warp in and hestitate, giving me extra time to get away (although i'm always aligned to a warp jump, just in case!)
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Sovelis
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Posted - 2006.08.08 13:51:00 -
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Besides beign a slight deterrent for Pirates drones also can take care of Rats in .6 or .7 pretty easily.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.08 15:32:00 -
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Check Out the guide our corp Founder wrote here
Goes in DEEP DEEP detail on how to be a good miner.
I'm still working on getting the Charts into HTML so they don't fall apart, but other than that, the page works fairly well.
Good mining- Jobie
CEO - MGTTG
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Jason Hawke
Caldari Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2006.08.08 18:21:00 -
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Actually my 5 light scout drones with adv interface 1, is able to take on rats in .5 space... I have only had to kill 3 at a time, but i am certain I could take on groups of 4 no problem.
Remember, mining drones skill gives you 5% increase each level. Drone interfacing gives you 20% each level. Mining foreman (not sure if it works with drones) gives you 2% increase.
That is a total of 130% increase in your drone mining. (120% if mining foreman doesn't work for drones)
Now add 5 more drones to the operation. That is an increase in yeild of 260%.
That isn't too bad. Live by the Sword, Die from Bravado. |

Elerie Dana
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Posted - 2006.08.09 06:37:00 -
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I cannot reply really on how to be a perfect miner, however I feel the need to point out that some of the information in the responses is incorrect. The advanced drone interfacing skill only allows you to use 1 drone control unit per level of skill. If you look at them carefully, a drone control unit can only be used by carriers. Therefore you can still only use 5 drones to mine. Still even without this skill drone interfacing is very useful to mining drones (which do add up with 5 of em). Just didn't want anyone spending hard earned isk on a skill they cannot use for the purpose intended.
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Maghook
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Posted - 2006.08.09 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Elerie Dana I cannot reply really on how to be a perfect miner, however I feel the need to point out that some of the information in the responses is incorrect. The advanced drone interfacing skill only allows you to use 1 drone control unit per level of skill. If you look at them carefully, a drone control unit can only be used by carriers. Therefore you can still only use 5 drones to mine. Still even without this skill drone interfacing is very useful to mining drones (which do add up with 5 of em). Just didn't want anyone spending hard earned isk on a skill they cannot use for the purpose intended.
If you add correctly drones lvl 5 (5 drones) and advanced drone interfacing (5 drones) equals 10 drones you can control
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Elerie Dana
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Posted - 2006.08.09 11:44:00 -
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And if you had read my post you would see that Advanced Drone Interfacing allows for adding a Drone Control Unit to your ship not adding another drone. Unless you have over 75000 PG on your ship which is what each Drone Control Unit is listed for then you cannot fit them on anything except Carriers. Carriers carry fighters which don't mine. So please read the post before slamming it and do some research.
Link to Drone Control Unit Info: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/drones/droneupgrades/24283.asp
Link to Advanced Drone Control Skill Info: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/drones/24613.asp
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Maghook
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Posted - 2006.08.09 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Maghook on 09/08/2006 12:05:56
Originally by: Elerie Dana And if you had read my post you would see that Advanced Drone Interfacing allows for adding a Drone Control Unit to your ship not adding another drone. Unless you have over 75000 PG on your ship which is what each Drone Control Unit is listed for then you cannot fit them on anything except Carriers. Carriers carry fighters which don't mine. So please read the post before slamming it and do some research.
Link to Drone Control Unit Info: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/drones/droneupgrades/24283.asp
Link to Advanced Drone Control Skill Info: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/drones/24613.asp
While i thank you for pointing that out , i have seen 10 drones being controlled without any drone controls. (and no it wasnt the gallente HAC or whichever one adds drones or a carrier/mothership ). I hardly deem it nessasary to call it "slamming" your post. If you Reread my post you will see it contains nothing more then an opinion brought forward for correction.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.09 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jobie Thickburger on 09/08/2006 15:17:30 Drone Interfacing USED to give you 5 extra dones when maxed out.
With RMR, The skill was nerfed to giving a 20% bonus to Drone Abilities, Thus allowing you to get the same effect (more or less) from 5 drones, while cutting back on the lag that 15 drones would cause under normal circumstances.
There are ONLY 3 types of ships that can use multiple drones...
Carriers, For obvious reasons Motherships, because they are carriers on drugs, And the Guardian Vexor, But I dare you to find one.
CEO - MGTTG
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