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HitGirl
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Posted - 2003.10.09 08:06:00 -
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We have decided to drop out of NVA! Dont have much more to say, as far as i know u already knew, but i dont have to explain myself to any1 just going officially with this, We are dropping out!
Chief Executive Officer
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HitGirl
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Posted - 2003.10.09 08:13:00 -
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Another thing we are reforming into another name, Ravens is no more:)
Chief Executive Officer
Inferno Corp: Where we are ultimate Destruction will follow |
TMX
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Posted - 2003.10.09 09:26:00 -
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2003.10.09 15:11:00 -
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NVA alienated yet another? |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.09 18:26:00 -
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I trust you will be returning the BSC war issue cruisers that you were lent Hitgirl? A shame we didn't see them in the fighting, but please contact me with details of the times and places you will return those ships.
Love and peace
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.10.09 19:32:00 -
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I think Jade and HitGirl are twins separated at birth.
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Moving again, comfort of the chase
Now and again, this my saving grace
Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove
Keep me alive and give me something to lose
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.10.09 20:44:00 -
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I must say HitGirl... I told you so!
Well even though we left Ravens without saying good bye I do want you to know that we felt you guys were being used as cannon fodder. That's why we left. It had nothing to do with you or ravens, we enjoyed your company and wish you the best of luck out there.
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.09 21:18:00 -
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To meet the literal definition of "cannon fodder", is it not actually a requirement to turn up to the fighting?
To the best of my knowledge hitgirl blagged a number of cruisers from the NVA and then avoided the entirety of the Venal civil war.
Hardly the actions of "cannon fodder" m'dear.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.10.09 21:44:00 -
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I have an idea...how about, just this once, we avoid the finger-pointing. Suffice to say, Ravens were never really a part of NVA.
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HitGirl
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Posted - 2003.10.10 08:37:00 -
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If u didnt knew we lost those ships and 5 more up there and around Venal area:( Amongst those 2 battleships:(
Chief Executive Officer
Inferno Corp: Where we are ultimate Destruction will follow |
Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.10.10 09:54:00 -
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::grin::
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Yuen
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:03:00 -
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By the way, if it was a lend,honour should tell you to give them back even if you have to buy them new, my dear HitGirl.
Just my 2 cents.
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:34:00 -
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The terms of the BSC lend/lease were that if the ships were lost in battle there was to be no charge. Lots of them were lost in battle by honourable NVA corporations. The problem is, Ravens of Vahalla and Hitgirl spent almost the entirety of the civil war mining scordite in empire space (in the words of a former ravens pilot now looking to go straight in a corp with a better reputation).
I have one report of hitgirl actually being in Venal during the war, and no report of her losing a ship there.
I fact the only record I have of hitgirl losing a ship was in CFS space where she was accused of pirating. Hardly an illustrious war record.
Hence my response to her casualties claim is a resounding ...
Chinny-Reckon! (with jimmy-hill theatrics)
(apologies to non-uk schoolkids of the eighties)
Basically, no, I don't believe it.
Love and peace
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Drago Musevni
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Posted - 2003.10.10 16:10:00 -
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OMFG God Jade, I had done my damnest to forget that stuff, now you dredge it back up....Damn you!!! Chinney-reckon.....what a phrase!!
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mewoa on 10/10/2003 18:14:36
To meet the literal definition of "cannon fodder", is it not actually a requirement to turn up to the fighting?
To the best of my knowledge hitgirl blagged a number of cruisers from the NVA and then avoided the entirety of the Venal civil war.
Hardly the actions of "cannon fodder" m'dear.
Then your knowledge is flawed, as I recall about 3 weeks ago while we at Huff were being recruited for the NVA Ravens were fighting their buttÆs off. Albeit, they were disorganized and getting the tar beat out of them they were at least showing up for the fight and trying. How can you say she avoided the entire fight? She was getting **** canned just about every time I logged on for a while there. I recall several times where they asked for assistance from other NVA corps and got only token support. No they were not in the thick of the fight but they were on the fringes.
It was a very frustrating time for them and I think you owe them that credit.
Just my opinion but If I were an NVA member and did what they did and got the treatment your giving them I'd not want to be a member. If youÆre not aware of any of this then maybe you should look into it and not fret so much over assets. Give them a break they put up an honest effort for you and you should give them something in return. If your NVA is dam great I'm sure you can spare a few ships; sort of a medal for their services to you.
As for haveing records of these events, I can understand you don't, you spent the entire war in the propaganda room worried about that bounty on your head.
No offense 'chert' but take the foot out of your mouth before you try to talk, it's a bit difficult to understand what youÆre saying sometimes. Besides you'll get a bad taste in your mouth if you keep it up.
But on a more important note may I add: the problem NVA had here with Ravens and even why Huff and other companies never completed their petition to join your alliance was simply this; your council appears to have a tendency to neglect noticing the efforts of the smaller corps in your alliance (Hence no record of our services to you).
Huff for example chooses to keep its membership under 20 members, itÆs easier for us to coordinate ops and take care of our individual members that way. Does that reduce our effectiveness in any way? No of course not. We specialize in particular areas of the game and serve a function for the greater alliance. Your recruiters and council failed to see this and became irate when the subject was addressed. They were only interested in black ops recruits and or Battleships (We only had 7 at the time). Mining for isk or building equipment and ships wasn't enough for you.
The Ravens needed leadership and coordination but did your agents assist them with that? No you put them on a side burner and left them to fend for themselves(again, that's why you have no records). Now you have the gall to say they did not participate!
Shame on you æchertÆ! And shame on the good leaders of the NVA for allowing this post, you dishonor all who attempted to help this alliance weather active members or otherwise.
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:13:00 -
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BTW, I never cared much for the Ravens or HitGirl for that matter. But give credit where credit is due.
Doh!
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.12 22:48:00 -
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Mewoa, I assure you that you are wrong in almost every respect of your previous post. But don't take my word for it, ask the Ravens of Valhalla corp members who quit over Hitgirl's non-participation in the war.
And with regard to small corps you are similarly clueless in terms of NVA opinion; we owe a great debt to the very smallest corps, those that actually fought, like Pain Syndicate and Reikoko for example. I would advise learning a little more about the subject matter before posting in future.
Love and peace
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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.10.12 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Lottsa Pox on 12/10/2003 23:01:48
Jade,
Just wanted to mention that as one of the combatants during the numerous skirmish between NVA and opposing forces (former M3G4 member) I can confirm that at no time did I see any Raven corp members in the mix. We did see jericho faction once who had previously stated they were not a combatant corporation. So if jericho could show im sure ravens could have made an effort.
Enjoy the game. I know I am.
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya Pod
BioMass Cartel
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel
Podding a system near you |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.12 23:46:00 -
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lol mr pox, I know I was there, you chaps blew the crap out of me three times!
but then I never claimed to be a hotshot pilot!
love and peace
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.13 00:16:00 -
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To meet the literal definition of "cannon fodder", is it not actually a requirement to turn up to the fighting?
I spat my m0o-shake over my keyboard at that one! 
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2003.10.13 00:38:00 -
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who the hell is huff technologies...?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 01:25:00 -
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according to the thread it looks like huff technologies are some people who decided to break with hitgirl for unspecified reasons but still cling to the nonsense that ravens actually did something in the war, and that we should give hitgirl five cruisers in payment for her personal scordite mining effort ...
muppets in other words
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.10.13 17:01:00 -
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Then your knowledge is flawed, as I recall about 3 weeks ago while we at Huff were being recruited for the NVA Ravens were fighting their buttÆs off. Albeit, they were disorganized and getting the tar beat out of them they were at least showing up for the fight and trying. How can you say she avoided the entire fight? She was getting **** canned just about every time I logged on for a while there. I recall several times where they asked for assistance from other NVA corps and got only token support. No they were not in the thick of the fight but they were on the fringes.
It was a very frustrating time for them and I think you owe them that credit.
Just my opinion but If I were an NVA member and did what they did and got the treatment your giving them I'd not want to be a member. If youÆre not aware of any of this then maybe you should look into it and not fret so much over assets. Give them a break they put up an honest effort for you and you should give them something in return. If your NVA is dam great I'm sure you can spare a few ships; sort of a medal for their services to you.
As for haveing records of these events, I can understand you don't, you spent the entire war in the propaganda room worried about that bounty on your head.
It appears that I was indeed mistaken on this matter. The multiple incidents that I refer to were actually one and involved a 'non-NVA' incident with M3G4. 2 Thoraxes were lost and the attack was provoked according to my source.
The resone NVA did not respond was because the incident did not involve interests in Venal or PB.
My original source turned out to be a trader seeking to prevent our interests in working with NVA. The data I received looked authentic but on further analysis proved to be forged. My question is why? Someone was obviously trying to turn us against NVA but I guess that is moot at this point as the dammage is alredy done.
My sincere apologies to the members of the NVA.
As for haveing records of these events, I can understand you don't, you spent the entire war in the propaganda room worried about that bounty on your head.
No offense 'chert' but take the foot out of your mouth before you try to talk, it's a bit difficult to understand what youÆre saying sometimes. Besides you'll get a bad taste in your mouth if you keep it up.
And as for this Jade. You have my sincerest apology.
who the hell is huff technologies...?
Come to the Forge and Lonetrek and see us work. Then you will know who we are. There are few who can can work the fields as we do.
As for the Ravens; well, those of you who worked with us for the short time you were on thanks for the help.
As for the trouble I had with the NVA recruiters (you know who you are), We are not affiliated with Ravens any longer. We do not share their philosophy regarding combat (if there ever was one worth mentioning). Our position on mining rights still stands and we will not commit battleships to combat until we have a viable way of replacing them. But we will happily mine for any alliance that is willing to give us a fair cut.
Again, I appologize for the unwaranted accusations against any NVA members and especially Jade.
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 18:16:00 -
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Hmmm, well monsieur, it takes a big man to apologise and admit that a mistake has been made, and I appreciate your courage in doing just that.
Thank you.
I'm still a little confused about these "NVA recruiters" though, since I did most of the recruitment myself during the war, and tried to keep abreast of most agreements or partnerships that were made.
If you have problems with specific individuals then please drop me a line, I really take a stern line with those who damage the reputation of the NVA for personal advantage and mean-spirited personal gain.
The crux of my issue with Hitgirl in fact.
If people have been abusing trust and taking liberties then they need setting straight.
Love and peace
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:59:00 -
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Thank you jade...
I would discuss the recruitment issue with you in private as I will not put the individual on the spot here in the forums.
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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