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Ameki Haakar
Caldari
Empirical Productions
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:22:00 -
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I plan to sell 9,000 shares for 5,000,000 ISK per share. The IPO will last 2 to 3 weeks which should be enough time to sell all the shares.
Once the needed capital is raised I will buy the most profitable BPOs I will see on auctions and escrow. BPOs
will be decided by me but the shareholders will also be able to influence the decision. I will only buy BPOs
that are for sale at or below the recommended 12month pricing, whereby 12months of producing and selling
the item will pay for the BPO. I will also need to consider the BPO needed to produce the tech I variant of
the item and the availability of the materials and components. As well as this I must consider the popularity of
the item and sell in a Region which has high demand for the item.
Expenditures of profits:
75% of the money will be issued as dividends
20% of the money will be kept in the corporation wallet. So over the period of several months enough ISK will
be raised to buy another T2 BPO. This will further increase the value of shares and the ISK earned by the
shareholders.
5% of the money will go to my wallet though I may reinvest in the corporation from time to time.
My experience with tech II production is minimal but I have bought BPCs from escrow then gathered the
components and been able to produce a small number of ships and items. I see little risk and high profit with
tech II production because everything will be built in secure space and within a region with demand. I also
have experience within the tech I market but this gives vastly smaller profits in comparison.
I know in EvE terms I am a comparitively new character but this is my one and only account. So far in the game I have done production but was looking for a way to expand my business. I think I have covered everything I need to in this post but feel free to contact me with any questions you might have.
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Ricdics
Dreadnought Production INC
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:39:00 -
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Whether this is legit or not, I don't like your chances of raising 45 billion isk as such a new character with no real business plan. I would be reworking it if I were you, and set your IPO a lot lower. I can't go in-game (at work) to see how old you are, but the fact that your picture isn't showing, suggests to me that you are under 6 months old.
Cheers
Insured Research and Production Services
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Heikki
Gallente
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:40:00 -
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Uhm, 50 days old character who haven't done a single mission or tried any NPC hunting, eager to invest 45B of other people's money? With 55% of 20k shares staying in your possession?
Further minus points for:
- Not bothering to make fancy web sites with impressive calculations
In remote case this is genuine: T2 business is not that simple, you really should try to game and all the aspect it has to offer before you start wasting other people's ISK.
-Lasse
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EMFi Manager
EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:57:00 -
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Ricky and Heikki are right... I don't endorse this IPO.
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Barbicane
The Gun Club
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Ameki Haakar
...I know in EvE terms I am a comparitively new character but this is my one and only account. So far in the game I have done production but was looking for a way to expand my business. I think I have covered everything I need to in this post but feel free to contact me with any questions you might have.
Sorry, this is not the way to do it. You will not be able to raise 45B, or even 10B for that matter. I suggest you start with one advanced ammo BPOs. Get a small ammo print (avoid rockets, light missiles) for around 1B and start there. There is plenty of profit to be had from some of those prints if you're willing to to put in some work in selling the stuff.
You might even try an IPO to raise the money.
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Ricdics
Dreadnought Production INC
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:40:00 -
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Without trying to dishearten you too much Ameki. I think you should try a much smaller business, first working on the T1 market. If you can't turn a profit or significant overall profit working the t1 market, you won't have much with t2. 45b might get you a cerberus or recon ship bpo, where you can run maybe 3-5 units a week out of the factory. Maybe making 100m profit per unit, you would be looking at a return of 2b a month. So that would be basing your IPO off a 2 year return on bpo costs basically.
T2 is a very dangerous industry to be diving into right now, regardless of age. With the new R&D developments coming through, it would be best advised to hold off on purchases, as it is very possible the price of all t2 items could drop significantly thereby the bpo having a much lower value and much longer return on investment.
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Pang Grohl
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.08 21:45:00 -
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I will be eve-mailing you with questions. 
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Funky Witherbean
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Posted - 2006.08.08 23:43:00 -
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Before I say things that will seem harsh- let me encourage you to try to do business in Eve. I WANT there to be more companies, but companies done the right way. I would suggest starting with something smaller, and doing it well. If you have an intelligently thought-out plan for a modest endeavor, I suspect you can find some investment.
Ok that said, your investment opportunity really doesn't interest me, and this is why:
The things that make me think this is a bad investment are:
-I've never heard of you personally, and none of my extended circle have either
-The amount you're asking for is very large, and apparently arbitrary.
-The amount of work you put into thinking about asking for the sum suggests that you don't take the request seriously. You want 45 BILLION ISK and this is the kind of groundwork you do before making the request?
-I don't know that you would have any of the skills or knowledge of game mechanics to make this work
All of the above tell me you are extremely inexpert- either as a businessman or scammer, I don't know which.
For me to feel differently:
- You would have to ask for much less (and be able to illustrate why what you were asking for was calculated, not arbitrary).
- You would need partners, preferably with a lot more history doing honest business in eve
- You would need to demonstrate the ability to think, in detail, preferably with spreadsheets, about your business
- You would need to show me the kind of report I can expect about how you are taking care of the investor's money, and you would need to have a trusted auditor endorse the statements
- You'd need an experienced eve businessperson on your board of directors, so I knew you could get reliable advice when things got hairy
- You'd need to find a way that someone I trust could stop you from stealing all the assets, and then hire them to do so
I hope the above comes across as constructive criticsim. Like I say- I would like nothing better than for you to appear again with a fantastic business opportunity- but I do want to be harsh enough in my tone to discourage anyone feeling speculative.
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