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Viktor VonCarstein	Posted - 2006.08.09 08:54:00 - [1] What is it with belt NPC's disappearing. So many times now I go in to a belt ratting in 0.0 I kill 1 guy and the rest vanish. I have tried killing escorts first, killing BS's first it doesn't seem to make a difference. I can't scramble them all as an amarr pilot my mid slots are gimped already. An example of yesterday, I warp into a belt kill one of those hauling rats which have minerals there were 4 escorts and 2 more haulers left and they disappered. Doesn't matter what ship it is they all disappear. The only ones that I don't have a problem with are the named spawns they always stay and fight. Is this supposed to happen and so am I required to scramble all the NPC's, if so I am gonna have to train for a Scorpion.
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.09 08:58:00 - [2] Nagh its a feature afaik. They dont actually dissapear though, as far as i'm aware they actually just move to a different belt. But for bs spawns as long as you leave the escorts alone ive never had them warp out. Could be wrong on that, I'm not exactly an NPC'er Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.08.09 09:49:00 - [3] Like Ali says, they don't actually disappear. They relocate. I actually put a scram on them to see if that worked to keep them at the belt... it didn't. =P
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.09 09:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin I actually put a scram on them to see if that worked to keep them at the belt... it didn't. =P NPCs can MWD in deadspace too. CCP nerf NPCs! ----------
Azuriel Talloth M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.09 10:06:00 - [5] The weirdest thing is when they MWD off in a random direction as soon as you enter the belt, at like 2k/s which is pretty good for battleships CCP Please rename "Warp Disrupt Probes" to "Interdiction Spheres", thanks!
prsr Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:19:00 - [6] I've scrambled npc's with two points and they still warped out on me. I usually kill the ship with the highest bounty first, or the haulers in a hauler spawn. Works for me, although CCP would do good to change NPC's so they don't warp out when scrambled. -- .sig apathy ftw
Luigi Thirty Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin I actually put a scram on them to see if that worked to keep them at the belt... it didn't. =P NPCs can MWD in deadspace too. CCP nerf NPCs! Sansha BSes can MWD at 3km/s!
Dimitri Ravinoff	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:07:00 - [8] This is absolutly false. While NPCs can warp to other belts, they also sometimes just.... vanish. It is not a feature. Its totally outside the game mechanic and it is a bug. Here is a scenerio: You are ratting in 0.0 come upon a spawn of 4 Sansha's Loyal Cruisers and 1 True Sansha Battlecruiser. You target all 5 and they return the favor, all attacking you. You take out the 4 support Cruisers quickly. As you let the first volley out at the True Sansha, who has had you locked and has been dealing you damage for several minutes, he vanishes. NOT WARPS.... vanishes. as in, doesnt exist any more. This happened to me this weekend. As one of the previous posters suggested, I thought he may have warpped to another belt, as I know that sometimes happens. Rats warping is perfectly fine. I can do it, so why cant they? However, I was in my raven with torpedos and was looking directly at him, wating to watch my pretty torpedo explosion. I would have seen him warp, and seen what direction. This was not the case. Regardless, I was hoping i just missed the warp somehow, maybe in a fit of lag or something, so I hoped all 16 belts in the system twice on both accounts that I own (4 times in all), while scanning agressivly, trying to find his sorry butt. Nothing.... There were others in local, but they were all alliance mates. No one saw the True anywhere. I petitioned the incident. If the NPCs have the ability to vanish as soon as someone triggers an offensive action against them, after they have been attacking said pilot for several minutes, while locked, then I want that ability too! That, or respawn my freaking true sanaha battle cruiser and fix the bug ;)
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Dimitri Ravinoff This is absolutly false. While NPCs can warp to other belts, they also sometimes just.... vanish. It is not a feature. Its totally outside the game mechanic and it is a bug. Here is a scenerio: You are ratting in 0.0 come upon a spawn of 4 Sansha's Loyal Cruisers and 1 True Sansha Battlecruiser. You target all 5 and they return the favor, all attacking you. You take out the 4 support Cruisers quickly. As you let the first volley out at the True Sansha, who has had you locked and has been dealing you damage for several minutes, he vanishes. NOT WARPS.... vanishes. as in, doesnt exist any more. This happened to me this weekend. As one of the previous posters suggested, I thought he may have warpped to another belt, as I know that sometimes happens. Rats warping is perfectly fine. I can do it, so why cant they? However, I was in my raven with torpedos and was looking directly at him, wating to watch my pretty torpedo explosion. I would have seen him warp, and seen what direction. This was not the case. Regardless, I was hoping i just missed the warp somehow, maybe in a fit of lag or something, so I hoped all 16 belts in the system twice on both accounts that I own (4 times in all), while scanning agressivly, trying to find his sorry butt. Nothing.... There were others in local, but they were all alliance mates. No one saw the True anywhere. I petitioned the incident. If the NPCs have the ability to vanish as soon as someone triggers an offensive action against them, after they have been attacking said pilot for several minutes, while locked, then I want that ability too! That, or respawn my freaking true sanaha battle cruiser and fix the bug ;) Knowing that they do sometimes warp away/vanish.... Shooting the escorts first was a little stoopid dont you think Maybe the bs had a cloak Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin I actually put a scram on them to see if that worked to keep them at the belt... it didn't. =P NPCs can MWD in deadspace too. CCP nerf NPCs! Oh come on, even a very occasional NPCer like myself knows they love stabs... its the most common loot item after Miner I's

Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin I actually put a scram on them to see if that worked to keep them at the belt... it didn't. =P NPCs can MWD in deadspace too. CCP nerf NPCs! Oh come on, even a very occasional NPCer like myself knows they love stabs... its the most common loot item after Miner I's Burn in flames you liar ! We all know its basic co-proc's Possibly to help fit the stabs... It all makes sense ! Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Leonidas Rex Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:47:00 - [12] Ive seen this happen a quite a few times as well, and there is no warping involved, they simply disappear. When the age of man has passed, who then will tell our stories? Who will look back and wonder? Who will remember those before us? Who will know of the pains, sacrifices and joys we had?
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Leonidas Rex Ive seen this happen a quite a few times as well, and there is no warping involved, they simply disappear. They never actually warp, ever! as far as I know (apart from occasionaly they warp INTO your belt) But from my experiance quite often they simply move to a different belt. Is it possible they move to adjacent systems ??? Not too sure to be honest Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
D2O HeavyWater	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:04:00 - [14] Ive been up in 0.0 for the last week trying to fix my sec stat and I have seen this on a number of occasions. Sometimes you do get npc's dissapearing from one belt and re appearing in another. But also I have had NPC's dissapear never to be seen again.
Dimitri Ravinoff	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Knowing that they do sometimes warp away/vanish.... Shooting the escorts first was a little stoopid dont you think Maybe the bs had a cloak Alliaanna Cant cloak when you are locked, which he was. And figuring my tank was only so-so, taking out the other dps fast wasnt a bad idea. And rats do warp. You never had to drop a ratting trip and had the rats follow you to a jump gate or a station? happens quite often in 0.0. I've seen it alot while solo mining when I jump by miner out.


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