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Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
642
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:55:00 -
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Since CCP is making them subcaps by nerfing the jump drives in to the ground, We should be able to dock these fine ships of nerfdom. it will allow us to use the characters for other things while waiting for the Cool down timer to expire. |
Budrick3
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
52
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:57:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Since CCP is making them subcaps by nerfing the jump drives in to the ground, We should be able to dock these fine ships of nerfdom. it will allow us to use the characters for other things while waiting for the Cool down timer to expire.
agreed |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4773
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:02:00 -
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Outpost Upgrade, Supercapital Docks: Tier 1: 1 Super; Tier 2: 4 Supers, Tier 3: 16 Supers
Password locked and visible on the outpost but can't be engaged. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
642
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:13:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Outpost Upgrade, Supercapital Docks: Tier 1: 1 Super; Tier 2: 4 Supers, Tier 3: 16 Supers
Password locked and visible on the outpost but can't be engaged.
what about npc stations in lowsec or nullsec. just let everyone dock wherever like it is now with no hard limits. otherwise what happens when joe blow super pilot number 8932 decided he is quitting eve and dosent resub? his super would still be docked. big power blocks like the cfc could lock out npc stations by just docking their supers there.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1914
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:21:00 -
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james 315 called it... EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
642
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:24:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:james 315 called it...
called what?
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1914
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:06:00 -
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it was an article on TMC where james 315 said CCP should nerf super cap hp and let them dock. too long ago for me to be bothered to dig up though. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
642
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:09:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:it was an article on TMC where james 315 said CCP should nerf super cap hp and let them dock. too long ago for me to be bothered to dig up though.
so another idea that wasnt james 315 idea now becomes his idea. gotcha.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1914
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:17:00 -
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geeze i put it down for cheap laughs. you must be quite the joykill in black legion comms... EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
642
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:25:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:geeze i put it down for cheap laughs. you must be quite the joykill in black legion comms...
i am sure you know all about black legion coms and how much we dont use them, at all. |
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1915
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Posted - 2014.10.03 02:21:00 -
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theres that award winning sense of humor again EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
1750
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Posted - 2014.10.03 04:08:00 -
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Hmm... I don't know if I can support this. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2014.10.03 04:29:00 -
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Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.10.03 04:53:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it.
The neat thing about lore and RP is that it can always be expanded upon. Just because there weren't stations big enough in the past doesn't mean there can't be in the future.
"New planck technology allows super capitals to dock" "Bigger stations constructed to allow for super capital docking" so on and so forth. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
500
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:36:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:theres that award winning sense of humor again
internet spaceships is serious business....
this just the fun thing about opening new doors as it were....always get the peeps who say well....how about this door now.
Gates were a consolation prize for the changes coming my take on it. Not seeing the need to expand it. POS mod can house them and well call me old school, this would be why when you plan to fly the really big rigs, you generally plan on having the sitter to go with it. |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
154
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:40:00 -
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Solj RichPopolous wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it. The neat thing about lore and RP is that it can always be expanded upon. Just because there weren't stations big enough in the past doesn't mean there can't be in the future. "New planck technology allows super capitals to dock" "Bigger stations constructed to allow for super capital docking" so on and so forth.
But they can fit thru the tiny gates |
Jandor Ikahrus
Emperors of Nowhere
0
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:52:00 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:Solj RichPopolous wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it. The neat thing about lore and RP is that it can always be expanded upon. Just because there weren't stations big enough in the past doesn't mean there can't be in the future. "New planck technology allows super capitals to dock" "Bigger stations constructed to allow for super capital docking" so on and so forth. But they can fit thru the tiny gates
They'll probably write some lore about how they ride along the outside of the gates warp tunnel instead of inside it.
Anyway, OP post doesn't seem to bad. Maybe it should have cost associated with it, pilots having to rent super cap hangars out. |
Agonising Ecstacy
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:24:00 -
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Yeah - I guess there was an implicit agreement between player and ccp - that when you committed a pilot to a supercapital, that's pretty much all you would be able to do with that pilot. Which was fine. Many people were willing to make that sacrifice. Myself included. Now supers will be changed in the extreme, and that agreement needs to be looked at again.
I will either sell my super or if I cant get good money for it, just sit in it, un-subbed, until I can - or never - whichever comes first. One less account (that's not meant as "I'm quitting! rage rage!" - but if I can't get out of my super, and I can't really use it very much - why would I sub the account at all..? I could sell it and take a loss yes - but then what do I need the account for anyway...?
Anyhow +1 from me |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
400
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:56:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it.
Yeah and Jita clearly fits all those 200k battleships docked in there right now :) |
Ellendras Silver
The Scope Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:21:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Since CCP is making them subcaps by nerfing the jump drives in to the ground, We should be able to dock these fine ships of nerfdom. it will allow us to use the characters for other things while waiting for the Cool down timer to expire.
ok i missed that, truth is am not very active in eve atm link? or is it speculation?
Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it.
and docking 1000 carriers is ? not saying that they should be able to dock, just saying that ypur argument is weak at best Carpe noctem |
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elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2014.10.03 16:31:00 -
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Just put a hard limit on stations that says that at any given time only 50 capitals and 2-5 supers can dock at the outer docking ports of an NPC station or new docking ports structure - introduced as outpost upgrade - of player stations. signature |
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
787
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Posted - 2014.10.03 16:34:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Since CCP is making them subcaps by nerfing the jump drives in to the ground, We should be able to dock these fine ships of nerfdom. it will allow us to use the characters for other things while waiting for the Cool down timer to expire. While waiting for your cooldown timer to expire, you can have fun warping from gate to gate in slow motion and jumping stargates that are smaller than your spaceship. Look on the bright side: your supers warp so slowly, the timer will have expired after only 2 or 3 jumps! Targeting, Sensors and ECM Overhaul |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
500
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:59:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it.
Gameplay story segregation. Individual players have more cargo than the total volume of the station it's in, not to mention all the other people docked and storing stuff there. Carriers and dreads shouldn't be able to fit either, but they do. |
mannyman
Catastrophic Operations The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:01:00 -
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agreed, there should be a outpost upgrade for supercaps to dock. the supercaps will now get more or less stranded after the patch. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1322
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:05:00 -
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+1 If this is actually a CCP trap that removes your ship from the game Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
902
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Posted - 2014.10.18 13:06:00 -
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Solj RichPopolous wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Obviously they can't dock because they are almost bigger than the station.
RP won't allow it. The neat thing about lore and RP is that it can always be expanded upon. Just because there weren't stations big enough in the past doesn't mean there can't be in the future. "New planck technology allows super capitals to dock" "Bigger stations constructed to allow for super capital docking" so on and so forth.
Except that there is no need to improve the conditions of super caps. Under current mechanics. People are already using them. A buff like this would only be warranted if the use dropped to a point below what CCP intended. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
163
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Posted - 2014.10.18 14:34:00 -
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this will make it far to easy to horde suppers not to mention if they can be stored in a station they can be sold on market meaning that more people will be willing to build them since they can now sell them w/o risk of a scam just exploding the numbers of suppers in the game.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
778
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Posted - 2014.10.18 15:11:00 -
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I'm going to quote myself from another thread discussing the exact same thing...
Phoenix Jones wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:You are suggesting that we would stock up an unknown number of supers in stations, but because we currently have to use holding alts, that it's too expensive? I don't think that means what you think it means.
Also, if a coalition is stocking up on trillions of isk worth of supers in multiple stations, that is trillions of isk worth of sunk cash that provides very limited value to the coalition. I would argue that the trillions of isk worth of stockpiled supers would be more valuable distributed as regular SRP to keep all of our tens of thousands of pilots in a combat capable ship across multiple points in the warzone. I'm suggesting Everybody would stock up on unknown numbers of supers in stations... everywhere. There would be no limiting factor on the amount of supers one person or one group could control except for the speed of its production (which most are just straight-out bought from producers). Currently a person or group can only have as many supers as they have pilots, else they risk them by storing them at towers which have their own set of issues (constant fueling, open targets, forgetting to stront, abandoned, theft, roles, etc). Allowing Supers to dock would be removing that controlling check in the game. If you want to use a legion of holding alts, no one is stopping you, but each of those alts has a holding person behind it, be it a active member, or a director/ceo storage account for backup supers. Is storing supers on alts or in POS's the best option, I don't believe it is. But neither is storing them in indestructible stations.
This has been asked every hour, every week, from different supercap pilots. The main issue of docking is this.
Is it something you have control over or something that's your fault? No. It's **** poor planning by the developers as well as coordinated efforts by mega blocks that caused the current issue.
Eventually will they be dock able... Maybe. There is a list of issues that has to be addressed first before something like this could be considered. Yaay!!!! |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
902
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:52:00 -
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Any change made to any ship is about incentive. Incentive for people to fly them.
Currently Eve has no need to increase the incentive for more people to fly super caps. Regardless of what the situtation currently is for super cap pilots They're obviously fine with it as Eve has many times more supers than CCP intended. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:31:00 -
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As there is already a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
The Rules: 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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