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Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:36:00 -
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So according to this article, in theory there will be new trade hubs all over new eden since a lot of people will not be able to get to Jita (or the other 3) as easily.
Also, if you would like for your trade hub to show in searches (assuming this article is correct) so as to better advertise business, please mail me their location, and I shall add them to this list.
First 5 are taken from this website:
(I will update these in the near future, adding specific station locations as well when I get home)
(listing goes: Specific system, importance - region - Faction. Nullsec factions will also be included)
Hisec Trade hubs:
Jita, largest trade hub - The Forge region, Caldari
Amarr, major trade hub - Domain region, Amarr
Rens, major trade hub - Heimatar region, Minmatar
Dodixie, major trade hub - Sinq Laison region, Gallente
Hek, major trade hub - Metropolis region, Minmatar
Lowsec Trade Hubs:
Nullsec Trade Hubs:
(If this list gets too big I will create a post on my blog and transfer this information to that and place a link here)
~As for a discussion~
What are your opinions on what trade hubs will likely spring up? (if you have a good system in mind please EVEmail it to me so I can add it to the list)
Opinion on the article?
Opinion on supercaps using stargates?
How will this effect them?
Possible strategy alternatives to blob fleets?
I recognize there are a ton of forum posts about this. But from what I can tell, this will be both an amazing change for those who are tired of the impossible size of nullsec empires, and an enraging handicap for those that maintain those huge empires.
Fide et honore.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:40:00 -
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nah, it'll still just be jita. |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:42:00 -
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Actually, with the latest industry changes I do believe that ... ... tradehubs will cease to excist within the next years ... ... and people will suddenly smarten up ... ... and start selling locally.
Hi Dave! I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:43:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:nah, it'll still just be jita.
From what I can tell, many people will not be able to or will not be willing to make the trip all...the...way...
I didn't say Jita will die. I didn't say "Jita's successors". I said "Jita's grandchildren". Indicating a family enlargement. Fide et honore.
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:44:00 -
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Such things as this aren't planned. They happen. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:47:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:So according to this article, in theory there will be new trade hubs all over new eden since a lot of people will not be able to get to Jita (or the other 3) as easily.
The only actual fact in that article is this quote:
GÇ£If we can predict the effects of changes we make. Players will be able to (some of you are always smarter than us), and changes that can be predicted are changes that can be addressed, and solved problems are boring. If we can know what the exact consequences will be for changes weGÇÖre making, weGÇÖve already failed.GÇ¥ GÇô CCP Greyscale
Anything else is speculation.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
129
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:48:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:So according to this article, in theory there will be new trade hubs all over new eden since a lot of people will not be able to get to Jita (or the other 3) as easily. The only actual fact in that article is this quote: GÇ£If we can predict the effects of changes we make. Players will be able to (some of you are always smarter than us), and changes that can be predicted are changes that can be addressed, and solved problems are boring. If we can know what the exact consequences will be for changes weGÇÖre making, weGÇÖve already failed.GÇ¥ GÇô CCP Greyscale Anything else is speculation. Mr Epeen 
Ofc it's speculation lol that's simply for the discussion part. The real purpose of this thread is to make it easier for people to find what trade hubs are closest to them. Fide et honore.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:48:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hi Dave! no. |

S'Way
Bitter Vets
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:53:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:nah, it'll still just be jita. This.
The fact you can dock and get anything you want in the same station is just too much convenience to give up. Even if you have to pay more for the goods to be hauled it's worth it. When buying mods and things there's nothing worse than finding you can't get that one mod to make a ship fit work in a small local market, so buying in bulk and shipping from Jita is just less of a headache. |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
129
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Posted - 2014.10.03 17:59:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Dave Stark wrote:nah, it'll still just be jita. This. The fact you can dock and get anything you want in the same station is just too much convenience to give up. Even if you have to pay more for the goods to be hauled it's worth it. When buying mods and things there's nothing worse than finding you can't get that one mod to make a ship fit work in a small local market, so buying in bulk and shipping from Jita is just less of a headache.
True, although it is very likely that for the sake of timing and convenience, those that are doing the hauling from jita are doing so to sell at a lesser trade hub.
Plus, if you are hauling all...the...way...home... it makes a HUGE target that can be exploited, thus possibly losing everything you just bought. Especially if you are headed to more dangerous areas of space or are traveling through them.
So it would likely be safer (imo) to buy locally, especially with the new ly limits, even though JF get a 90% decrease, that still may bite some people. Fide et honore.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:06:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Hi Dave! no. :( I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
132
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:45:00 -
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i dont see much of a change in the markets locations because people will still cart their items to the edge and jump into low or empire depending on your direction. For a market to move to Null sec it would only do any good if you are near NPC or else it will be like other null sec markets at outpost limited to just those that use that outpost. Low sec market points would be camped unless you use the blockade runners to move your good but even then i have seen measures enacted to attempt to stop me so i adjusted my tactics (god forbid if lag or a game freeze hit). What may happen is that some industrialist will stock the edge stations and the nulls will just make their guys build more rather then import their goods to avoid the fatigue on their taxi drivers. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Manfred Sideous
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.03 19:57:00 -
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Jita will absolutely remain as the main trade hub. However new regional and local hubs will pop up. @EveManny
https://twitter.com/EveManny |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:00:00 -
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I have it on good authority that Hek is Jita's red-headed stepchild.
To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes: CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:13:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:Jita will absolutely remain as the main trade hub. However new regional and local hubs will pop up.
Precisely my point. Fide et honore.
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Grave Digger Eriker
Grave Diggers Guild
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:14:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:nah, it'll still just be jita. Incorrect!!
Jita is only within 5LY reach of 2 lowesec systems that will be perma camped so JF pilots will not use jita with these changes.
Bye Bye jita
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Sir William Wallace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:24:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:I have it on good authority that Hek is Jita's red-headed stepchild.
Aye, I agree that it is a total ginger nut of a system.
FWIW I think it'll take a while for Jita to even remotely lose any of it's draw as the main trade hub. There's already a few lower profile trade hubs that, yes, don't trade in the volume of the main regional hubs, but that do tend to shift a fair amount of trade on a daily basis. To find them, all you need to do is check DOTLAN for where there's a concentration of level 4 agents and you're almost guaranteed to find somewhere with an active market. |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:26:00 -
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Sir William Wallace wrote:Doc Fury wrote:I have it on good authority that Hek is Jita's red-headed stepchild.
Aye, I agree that it is a total ginger nut of a system. FWIW I think it'll take a while for Jita to even remotely lose any of it's draw as the main trade hub. There's already a few lower profile trade hubs that, yes, don't trade in the volume of the main regional hubs, but that do tend to shift a fair amount of trade on a daily basis. To find them, all you need to do is check DOTLAN for where there's a concentration of level 4 agents and you're almost guaranteed to find somewhere with an active market.
I shall look into that. Thanks!
Question, why level 4 agents? o.O Jc Fide et honore.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:27:00 -
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lol Hek, the red headed stepchild of Jita.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Hi Dave! |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:30:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Sir William Wallace wrote:Doc Fury wrote:I have it on good authority that Hek is Jita's red-headed stepchild.
Aye, I agree that it is a total ginger nut of a system. FWIW I think it'll take a while for Jita to even remotely lose any of it's draw as the main trade hub. There's already a few lower profile trade hubs that, yes, don't trade in the volume of the main regional hubs, but that do tend to shift a fair amount of trade on a daily basis. To find them, all you need to do is check DOTLAN for where there's a concentration of level 4 agents and you're almost guaranteed to find somewhere with an active market. I shall look into that. Thanks! Question, why level 4 agents? o.O Jc
Same reason you rob a bank, that's where the money is.
money = lvl 4 mission whores
To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes: CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |
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Sir William Wallace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:35:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Sir William Wallace wrote:Doc Fury wrote:I have it on good authority that Hek is Jita's red-headed stepchild.
Aye, I agree that it is a total ginger nut of a system. FWIW I think it'll take a while for Jita to even remotely lose any of it's draw as the main trade hub. There's already a few lower profile trade hubs that, yes, don't trade in the volume of the main regional hubs, but that do tend to shift a fair amount of trade on a daily basis. To find them, all you need to do is check DOTLAN for where there's a concentration of level 4 agents and you're almost guaranteed to find somewhere with an active market. I shall look into that. Thanks! Question, why level 4 agents? o.O Jc
As Doc said above, it's purely down to volume of players in the surrounding systems of where the Level 4 agents are, there's a hell of a lot more players doing level 4's than level 1 and 2's. Where there's more people there's a more active market. If I'm not mistaken that's how Rens became the "hub" for Heimatar due to the level 4 agents around Frarn and Lustrevik. Same with Jita, there's (or there was, haven't been down that neck of the woods for a while)a fair number of Caldari Navy level 4 agents close by. |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:38:00 -
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Sir William Wallace wrote:FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!! Sorry, had to. :)
*kinks* (: I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Hi Dave! |

Sir William Wallace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:46:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Sir William Wallace wrote:FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!! Sorry, had to. :) *kinks* (:
:) haha, we had the chance a couple of weeks ago but bottled it :(
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Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:48:00 -
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It seems I shall be doing research on Agent locations and such.
I think if I do that ahead of time, I should write "Potential" vs "confirmed", so people know whether or not it's simply the location or if it can actually be considered a trade hub. Fide et honore.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:53:00 -
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Sir William Wallace wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Sir William Wallace wrote:FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!! Sorry, had to. :) *kinks* (: :) haha, we had the chance a couple of weeks ago but bottled it :( Don't worry about it, William .......
Hmmmmm....... I feel the strong need to make your avatar a kilt ........... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Hi Dave! |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:54:00 -
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Everybody come to Tash-Murkon! It's a nice shade of blue this time of year. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:57:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Everybody come to Tash-Murkon! It's a nice shade of blue this time of year.
Well most likely the actual trade hubs will start out where they don't have quick access to one of the big 4. If it's 20 jumps out, especially via lowsec, from one of the big 4, then that lv 4 station is probably viable to become a trade hub. Depending on how much traffic it gets. Fide et honore.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:00:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Everybody come to Tash-Murkon! It's a nice shade of blue this time of year. Oh, is it ............... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Hi Dave! |

Foxstar Damaskeenus
Soul Takers
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Posted - 2014.10.03 23:22:00 -
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Old Man Star is a factional warfare/ lowsec piracy trade hub. You can find many ships and fully fit them at Quafe station and some fittings at the other station as well. Everything, is competitively priced. Add that to your list. Unban Aglon! -áhttp://evenews24.com/2014/09/21/nulli-titan-reimbursed-soul-taker-pilot-banned/ |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
131
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Posted - 2014.10.03 23:36:00 -
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Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:Old Man Star is a factional warfare/ lowsec piracy trade hub. You can find many ships and fully fit them at Quafe station and some fittings at the other station as well. Everything, is competitively priced. Add that to your list.
I'm about to head home now. I'll look up the station and system name and add it asap. Fide et honore.
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