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Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.04 03:40:00 -
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I just trained into a Jump Freighter and am still working on the calibration and fuel economy skills. I hope if the calibration skill becomes less- or non-useful in November, my SP would be refunded so I could decide whether to keep it in that skill, or put it into something different.
CCP has not released enough information so I know if I should change my plan. What do you think, Internet Space Pilots? |

GreenSeed
1185
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Posted - 2014.10.04 03:46:00 -
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they will never refund anything ever again, unless they outright decide to remove a skill, instead of changing what the skill does. if they didn't do it for adv industry, they wont do it for any Jump skills. |

Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
316
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Posted - 2014.10.04 03:46:00 -
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Take the simplest route and train it to 4, and if it does turn into a useless skill you wish you never trained, then you can consider it to be just another one of your mining skills. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |

dark heartt
507
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:18:00 -
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Good luck getting a skill refund as it will still be useful. http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Just an Aussie with a mining laser and too much time.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20866
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:40:00 -
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In respect of SP reimbursement you have 2 hopes, and Bob has been dead since 2003. The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |

Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:44:00 -
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I've got to say, as someone who has been playing eve for only 6 months, this is especially frustrating. I was already annoyed when I trained a bunch into rigging skills, some of which are currently useless (CCP will revisit drawbacks...) and changes to my drone skills were confusing (and my drone range & skill queue bugged for a day or two), although I don't think they disadvantaged me.
CCP Folks, if you are going to make frequent changes like this, maybe you should revisit issuing SP refunds.
If you refund my Jump Drive Calibration SP and I decide I still want those points in that skill, I'll just put them back into it. If I don't, at least I can put those SP into something different; so I have less reason to be aggravated. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5695
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:44:00 -
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Quote:What do you think, Internet Space Pilots?
I honestly think you should biomass, along with every other self-entitled scrublord that feels the need to spam the forums with a new thread about the jump changes every five minutes instead of posting your 'concerns' in the official feedback thread. Doubly for you though for also being a self-entitled scrub that thinks SP are refundable just by virtue of no longer liking what you've committed to training.
#DealWithIt GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16939
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Posted - 2014.10.04 06:05:00 -
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Anyone still waiting on those SP refund petitions from the Drake/Cane nerf?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
614
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Posted - 2014.10.04 06:08:00 -
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JD Cal I kind of agree.
We can use the points for the eventual Fatigue cooldown and timer reduction books they will add. |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 06:38:00 -
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The OP is a notorious liar.
In one thread he claimed to be a new player, in another he claimed to be expert in DDOS prevention.
You lot should feel bad for responding. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5695
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:20:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone still waiting on those SP refund petitions from the Drake/Cane nerf?
No, I didn't have enough SP at the time for it to be a legitimate threat to my entitlement. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:25:00 -
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I'm the covert star of this thread.
Everyone is thinking of me ... ... every time he reads S. P. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
155
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:35:00 -
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They should remove your sp just for posting that you want sp refunded. |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:39:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:They should remove your sp just for posting that you want sp refunded. He's a troll. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Elsa Hayes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:47:00 -
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AHAHA its Pro Tips, the self proclaimed leading authority on net coding and DDOS attacks.....
Tomorrow he will be the lead titan manufacturer in EvE.
Here is a pro tip for pro tips, you might be able to fool people if you tell another story every day, but unlike people forums do not forget and after having made a fool out of yourself already better bio mass and roll a new char for your weak trolling.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4619
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:49:00 -
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Pro TIps wrote:I just trained into a Jump Freighter and am still working on the calibration and fuel economy skills. I hope if the calibration skill becomes less- or non-useful in November, my SP would be refunded so I could decide whether to keep it in that skill, or put it into something different.
CCP has not released enough information so I know if I should change my plan. What do you think, Internet Space Pilots?
Aah, the next special snowflake that thinks he is entitled to something.
How cute.
*pets* Special Snowflake on the head. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4619
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:50:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone still waiting on those SP refund petitions from the Drake/Cane nerf?
No, but all the industry skills I invested in my character, still want them back since the Industry overhaul.
And gametime refunded for the time I spent grinding standings so I could anchor a high-sec POS on a moon. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:51:00 -
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Elsa Hayes wrote:AHAHA its Pro Tips, the self proclaimed leading authority on net coding and DDOS attacks.....
Tomorrow he will be the lead titan manufacturer in EvE.
Here is a pro tip for pro tips, you might be able to fool people if you tell another story every day, but unlike people forums do not forget and after having made a fool out of yourself already better bio mass and roll a new char for your weak trolling.
The angryness and fake superiority in your post makes you vulnerable and easily manipulateable. The aggressive undertone is nonsense and only shows him that he is successfull.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4619
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:52:00 -
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Elsa Hayes wrote:AHAHA its Pro Tips, the self proclaimed leading authority on net coding and DDOS attacks.....
Tomorrow he will be the lead titan manufacturer in EvE.
Here is a pro tip for pro tips, you might be able to fool people if you tell another story every day, but unlike people forums do not forget and after having made a fool out of yourself already better bio mass and roll a new char for your weak trolling.
Judging from your post, he is very succesful at trolling, specially you. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:53:00 -
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People who react angrily to trolls are victims.
You people really are clueless about yourselves. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:59:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Elsa Hayes wrote:AHAHA its Pro Tips, the self proclaimed leading authority on net coding and DDOS attacks.....
Tomorrow he will be the lead titan manufacturer in EvE.
Here is a pro tip for pro tips, you might be able to fool people if you tell another story every day, but unlike people forums do not forget and after having made a fool out of yourself already better bio mass and roll a new char for your weak trolling.
Judging from your post, he is very succesful at trolling, specially you. You should check your own responses too. Your fake superiority ... see above ... is also a symptom. Easily verifyable by looking at all those who keep eating bait and keep argueing.
I have talked to quite a few about this and their responses can be summed up as ... ... "I want to show that he makes a fool out of himself." ...
... not realising the manipulation, because all a troll wants is that people keep replying.
People are stuck in "being right", which makes them easy targets.
The OP is pretty good actually, but pushes the lies way too much. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5697
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:01:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:People who react angrily to trolls are victims.
You people really are clueless about yourselves.
You'll excuse me if I consider you thinking you know anyone better than they know themselves as little more than pretentious self-inflated arrogance. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:04:00 -
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Even Sibyyl got infected by this at yome point and refused to listen as much as everyone else, until a certain line pushed her out.
Paralhrasing....
"You wouldn't talk like that to someone in reallife, when the person is standing next to you. Your behaviour would have actual consequences."
I can even make a list of common victims and easy targets, in case anyone is interested.
A meta troll thread, so to speak. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10345
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:06:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Solecist Project wrote:People who react angrily to trolls are victims.
You people really are clueless about yourselves. You'll excuse me if I consider you thinking you know anyone better than they know themselves as little more than pretentious self-inflated arrogance. Your lack of experience is your own, not mine. If you really knew people, then you'd know that most people know themselves only superficially.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5698
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:09:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Solecist Project wrote:People who react angrily to trolls are victims.
You people really are clueless about yourselves. You'll excuse me if I consider you thinking you know anyone better than they know themselves as little more than pretentious self-inflated arrogance. Your lack of experience and understa ding of the matter is your own, not mine. If you really knew people, then you'd know that most people know themselves only superficially.
And your lack of knowing anything about me is yours, not mine. So since I don't pretend to know anyone better than they know themselves, we can pretend to be even if it makes you feel better. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10349
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:18:00 -
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I know enough of you to hit the nerve right on the spot. If you knew enough about the matter, you would ask yourself why you are so angry about certain things I am saying.
You don't ... which shows that you are in no position to talk about this anyway.
This gets underlined by the fact that you keel eating bait by even the silliest and most obvious of trolls.
When you throw Dunning Krueger around, you should verify if it doesn't apply to yourself too.
Now excuse me... talking to thickened and locked up egos like yours isn't really inspiring.
You would certainly be on that troll-targetting list... for obvious reasons. Not obvious t you, of course. To the trolls though... definitely. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread
Please send Dave Stark a mail and tell him that Sol said Hi! Thanks! |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5701
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:26:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I know enough of you to hit the nerve right on the spot.
Clearly you don't, because of the seven trillion nerves in the human body, you missed every one. Of course, in your arrogance, you're more than happy to assume you know me well enough to think you've hit a nerve, and like the pigeon who craps on a chessboard and declares victory, you've no qualms of announcing it either.
However, it is not anger that leads to me calling out your arrogance. It's disappointment. I used to expect better from you. In any case, even if you did hit a nerve, that still makes you the bad person for going out of your way to do so, so either way, you're a bad person and bad people really don't upset me. They're just way too far beneath me to pull that off.
As for me 'eating bait', I treat all forum posts as if they're serious. If a poster wants to make themselves look stupid by trolling, then I'll treat them as stupid. The distinction, in the end, is very narrow anyway. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Scout Vyvorant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:42:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:As for me 'eating bait', I treat all forum posts as if they're serious. If a poster wants to make themselves look stupid by trolling, then I'll treat them as stupid. The distinction, in the end, is very narrow anyway.
And that's your error.
In an official forum swarming with forum alts, trolls and whatnot, you should treat all posts as mere trolling attempts, and then try to understand if op was really trolling or not.
The fact you are also so dead on fighting with solecist, it smells of trolling. |

Elsa Hayes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:45:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I know enough of you to hit the nerve right on the spot. If you knew enough about the matter, you would ask yourself why you are so angry about certain things I am saying.
You don't ... which shows that you are in no position to talk about this anyway.
This gets underlined by the fact that you keel eating bait by even the silliest and most obvious of trolls.
When you throw Dunning Krueger around, you should verify if it doesn't apply to yourself too.
Now excuse me... talking to thickened and locked up egos like yours isn't really inspiring.
You would certainly be on that troll-targetting list... for obvious reasons. Not obvious t you, of course. To the trolls though... definitely.
Quite a bit full of yourself for someone who does not even know what trolling or rather successful trolling means just like your comrade J'Poll, a successful troll riles up people without them realizing that he is trolling. Both of you failed to realize that neither Remiel nor me were riled up in any form and no nerve was hit either but go on and live in your own bubble. Ah troll is useless when he is too obvious like a scammer is useless when even a 3 year old can look through his scheme a mental maturity you seemingly have not even achieved yet.
A troll that gets called out on his first attempt is a fail troll and someone who assumes the whistle blower to be anything else but amused fails just as much as the fail troll himself.
But this is the internet and arguing with neckbeards who you can-¦t even see is even less fruitful than talking with the turd you just dumped into the toilet.
But of course someone will proclaim victory and successful troll when in the end he just convinced a complete stranger half around the world that he is a complete and other moron. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5701
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:50:00 -
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Scout Vyvorant wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:As for me 'eating bait', I treat all forum posts as if they're serious. If a poster wants to make themselves look stupid by trolling, then I'll treat them as stupid. The distinction, in the end, is very narrow anyway. And that's your error. In an official forum swarming with forum alts, trolls and whatnot, you should treat all posts as mere trolling attempts, and then try to understand if op was really trolling or not. The fact you are also so dead on fighting with solecist, it smells of trolling.
Fighting with Sol? Please, you'll excuse me if I don't consider calling out the offensive passive aggressive arrogance of someone pretending to know people better than they know themselves as 'fighting' so much as 'telling off', like you would a young child you just caught shoplifting or something.
Now, as for the trolling - there is clever trolling, and then there is posting a hundred threads of the same topic repeatedly every day. If his is how he trolls, he's not clever. If he's serious, he's not clever. Either way, I'm quite sure I'm allowed to call him out since he's breaking the forum rules (trolling is also against the forum rules btw), and if some arrogant numpty wants to get in my face for it, then I'll get right back in there's.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Scout Vyvorant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.10.04 09:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Scout Vyvorant wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:As for me 'eating bait', I treat all forum posts as if they're serious. If a poster wants to make themselves look stupid by trolling, then I'll treat them as stupid. The distinction, in the end, is very narrow anyway. And that's your error. In an official forum swarming with forum alts, trolls and whatnot, you should treat all posts as mere trolling attempts, and then try to understand if op was really trolling or not. The fact you are also so dead on fighting with solecist, it smells of trolling. Fighting with Sol? Please, you'll excuse me if I don't consider calling out the offensive passive aggressive arrogance of someone pretending to know people better than they know themselves as 'fighting' so much as 'telling off', like you would a young child you just caught shoplifting or something. Now, as for the trolling - there is clever trolling, and then there is posting a hundred threads of the same topic repeatedly every day. If his is how he trolls, he's not clever. If he's serious, he's not clever. Either way, I'm quite sure I'm allowed to call him out since he's breaking the forum rules (trolling is also against the forum rules btw), and if some arrogant numpty wants to get in my face for it, then I'll get right back in there's.
So basically you claim to be older, more mature and wiser, in a way that allows you to tell off people on the forums (not simply this, but any).
Tell me however, who is the stupid one, the person that post in a troll thread about stopping to create troll threads, or the person that enter the troll thread, sense its purpose, reply a bit to the person that keep asking to stop creating trolling threads so this person actually answer back, acting superior than any other person around, making a fool of himself.
A hint, I'm a forum alt and i'm not better than any other person in this world. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5703
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Posted - 2014.10.04 09:13:00 -
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Scout Vyvorant wrote:
So basically you claim to be older, more mature and wiser, in a way that allows you to tell off people on the forums (not simply this, but any).
Here's a thought: learn to read. I don't know how you managed to equate calling people out for breaking actual rules to the arrogance of knowing someone better than they know themselves, but I can guess it has something to do with not reading.
I'm not trying to pretend like I'm better than anyone. Look up: Tall Poppy Syndrome. I'm just doing what a typical Australian does, pulling people who think they're 'all that' back down to earth. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Mashie Saldana
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1178
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:16:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Anyone still waiting on those SP refund petitions from the Drake/Cane nerf?
Drake is still the best internet spaceship, no regrets.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
282
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:36:00 -
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I am actually looking forward to this change. My JF pilot will soon have a brother in arms. I'm beginning to learn how to adapt. |

Medalyn Isis
Rosewood Productions Stain Confederation
372
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:43:00 -
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This is really at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to skill changes which should deserve an SP refund. Ie trying to get CCP to give out SP refunds is like trying to get blood from a stone. |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:44:00 -
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Pro TIps wrote:I just trained into a Jump Freighter and am still working on the calibration and fuel economy skills. I hope if the calibration skill becomes less- or non-useful in November, my SP would be refunded so I could decide whether to keep it in that skill, or put it into something different.
CCP has not released enough information so I know if I should change my plan. What do you think, Internet Space Pilots?
Biomass...
and take up chess...
Geez another whiner bitching. I have had to do much retraining because of changes. That's life... |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:44:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I can even make a list of common victims and easy targets, in case anyone is interested.
A meta troll thread, so to speak. I'm interested...
Elsa Hayes wrote:... is even less fruitful than talking with the turd you just dumped into the toilet. But...what about when they talk back? |

Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:53:00 -
[38] - Quote
personally i think JDO (jump drive operation) should give you +1 ly jump range per level
JDO 1 = 1LY JDO 2 = 2LY JDO 3 = 3LY JDO 4 = 4LY JDO 5 = 5LY
JDC (Jump drive calibration) should be reworked to combat the the new fatigue system by iva reduceing the cool down by a X% per level or modifying the base
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Hozac
adjustive purpose
0
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:29:00 -
[39] - Quote
Screw refunds. Give us the option to delete skills. |

Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
193
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Posted - 2014.10.05 22:40:00 -
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Sol's stealth trolling in this thread is highly successful - and amusing - as evidenced by the 2nd page. Really, you guys took the bait so easily. It was obvious .
Remiel Pollard wrote:In any case, even if you did hit a nerve, that still makes you the bad person for going out of your way to do so, so either way, you're a bad person and bad people really don't upset me. They're just way too far beneath me to pull that off. You're not exactly in the best position to say that. You are in many senses the demon you like to paint as so ugly. Don't be a hypocrite. Solo killing 6 cruisers in a frigate |
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Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
470
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Posted - 2014.10.06 05:01:00 -
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Emma Muutaras wrote:personally i think JDO (jump drive operation) should give you +1 ly jump range per level
JDO 1 = 1LY JDO 2 = 2LY JDO 3 = 3LY JDO 4 = 4LY JDO 5 = 5LY
JDC (Jump drive calibration) should be reworked to combat the the new fatigue system by iva reduceing the cool down by a X% per level or modifying the base
Interesting - calibration will be FUBAR with the changes.
Base would need to be around 2.22223 ly to hit 5ly with 125% (trained to 5).
That skill needs to go. It's already seen as "mandatory 5" by "most" for any actual jump usage (/tips hat to wormholes who snicker at jump drives for "using capitals")
JDO makes sense the way you have it laid out but that JDC... It needs to be prerequisite to fly at all or flat out removed (with refund). |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6418
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Posted - 2014.10.06 07:05:00 -
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JDC V will be at once important (to get to the magical 5 LY) but at the same time, you have alternatives...
Taking gates!!
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Dave Kitaro
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.10.06 07:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Quote:What do you think, Internet Space Pilots? I honestly think you should biomass, along with every other self-entitled scrublord that feels the need to spam the forums with a new thread about the jump changes every five minutes instead of posting your 'concerns' in the official feedback thread. Doubly for you though for also being a self-entitled scrub that thinks SP are refundable just by virtue of no longer liking what you've committed to training. #DealWithIt
Wow, you're so cool and edgy. |

Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2014.10.06 09:56:00 -
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I honestly think that.....i'm fed up with hearing about it now.
Go do what I have just taught myself to do, bake bread....the dough loves anger.
Today i'm trying to make Yorkshire Puddings for the first time, go try it....beat that batter to a pulp. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:09:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Skill Discussions.
I also removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them.
The Rules: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Creamdream
Unlimited Potential
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:29:00 -
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JDC will become practically useless....
That is, unless you change JF's so that they can make jumps more than 5 light years... Otherwise JF will become entirely crap.
Should JF's get a base LY range of say, 10 LY, then JDC V would become more useful.
In any case, only train JDC IV for now. |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
134
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:29:00 -
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I would hold off on training the skill if you expect the changed to be a drag....like every cap pilot in eve.
The jumping going to take longer, more jumps use more fuel and every jump you do will need to be at a station which will probably have someone willing to pop your cyno ship or an empty system with a cloaking device (unless you start fling a jf, you cant cloak those freaking things) "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.10.06 21:38:00 -
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Creamdream wrote:In any case, only train JDC IV for now. Well, it's a tough decision. If JDC continues to give jump range, maybe having JDC 5 will increase the value of my JF post-patch, and JF pilots who don't have it may be in a hurry to suddenly get it.
On the other hand, if CCP modifies the skill to do something I think isn't useful, basically I'm paying for 36 days of skill training time to get level 5 and that would sure aggravate me if it became useless to me. |

Vittoria Keen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:15:00 -
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Hozac wrote:Screw refunds. Give us the option to delete skills. i like this option :P
CCP should create somthing simular to the rescult char option but for skill points,
this however should be limited to a single chance to do it on an account so you buy the item from market reallocate all your "wasted" skill point and then from that moment on your stuck with your allocation never to be changed again, |
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