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CitzNo 097864
The Eleventh Commandment
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Pezzle One facet of this episode catches my interest. DC, you state that several Goons have been gunned down fleeing the scene in haulers. Are they still in the Alliance or have they left it? Have any of them asked for passage rights out of the area? Have any attempted to surrender?
I realize that BoB policy certainly does not require much reason for attack outside of Empire space, I am simply curious if any have tried to mitigate personal damages. It certainly seems a shame so many end up suffering for the apparent actions of so few.
If a Goon (or really anyone in similar situations) came to you and said they had learned their lesson, or they are trying to distance themselves from the actions of others, or even that they had been relativly unaware of the situation until recently, and just wanted out, what would you (and to a larger degree, BoB) do?
They would post a thread about it.
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Pezzle
Amarr SouthStar Business Solutions Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Pezzle on 11/08/2006 19:21:35 edited, not important
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:27:00 -
[123]
Originally by: OzaLoni
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Shariona DB you guys finished up North now?
So come back home
Not Yet, I'm afraid.
We have a couple of objectives left.
dbp
Bah don't wait too long or I won't be able to shoot you D:
you going away ???? surely there is plenty of time for us to come back and pew pew you up?
Yes unfortunately my time to shoot you and your time to shoot me for the next few months is becoming short D:
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard Big wow.
Seriously though, at least they've actually managed to kill a few ships.
Gotta agree there, this might be significant if anyone actually expected a few 100 crapships piloted by new players with bad tactics to be able to do defeat 80 good ships piloted by veterans.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:48:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 11/08/2006 19:29:23
Originally by: OzaLoni
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Shariona DB you guys finished up North now?
So come back home
Not Yet, I'm afraid.
We have a couple of objectives left.
dbp
Bah don't wait too long or I won't be able to shoot you D:
you going away ???? surely there is plenty of time for us to come back and pew pew you up?
Yes unfortunately my time to shoot you and your time to shoot me for the next few months is becoming short D:
So come on back, it can't be that interesting to shoot 1000s of t1 frigs and noobships anyway.
Umm, did CELES forget where BoB live if you want a fight? Or does CELES just fight BoB allies? Yea, I thought so.
The truth will set you free
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:49:00 -
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:01:00 -
[127]
You're missing the point, Baun & Co. I suspect an extreme jealousy of our success, combined with epeen envy and irrational bitterness may have created some bias in your posts. Enlightening words follow.
BoB winning on the battlefield was always given, the fact that they aren't even playing as one entity anymore was not. They had the potential to do a lot more and for a lot longer; we prepared for the big long haul because of this. A token fleet of 80 pilots and some ill-concieved roleplaying alts are nothing compared to their XZH attempt, which goes to show you that any notions of GoonSwarm unity for this war is a mere facade. Remedial's speech is quickly approaching legendary status, much like Ragnar's unique brand of diplomacy.
And in true canonical EVE form, I dub any motivational attempts whose outcomes are the complete opposite of everything intended as "Remedial Solution". Any CEO who wants his corp to become an utter failure should employ the powers of the Remedial Solution, preferrably while wearing Ragnar's Hat.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 11/08/2006 19:29:23
Originally by: OzaLoni
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Shariona DB you guys finished up North now?
So come back home
Not Yet, I'm afraid.
We have a couple of objectives left.
dbp
Bah don't wait too long or I won't be able to shoot you D:
you going away ???? surely there is plenty of time for us to come back and pew pew you up?
Yes unfortunately my time to shoot you and your time to shoot me for the next few months is becoming short D:
So come on back, it can't be that interesting to shoot 1000s of t1 frigs and noobships anyway.
Umm, did CELES forget where BoB live if you want a fight? Or does CELES just fight BoB allies? Yea, I thought so.
You really dont know do you?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:23:00 -
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.. well seems to me like once again, BoB are proving that they *can* talk the talk and walk the walk...
Good Job.
As a an outside observer, the only conclusion to draw from the manner in which this thread has progressed is that GS is on its last legs...
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Padijun Siger
Jita Bureau of Investigation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:32:00 -
[130]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist BoB winning on the battlefield was always given, the fact that they aren't even playing as one entity anymore was not.
Goons have never played EVE as one entity.
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:45:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Baun on 11/08/2006 20:45:59
Originally by: DigitalCommunist You're missing the point, Baun & Co. I suspect an extreme jealousy of our success, combined with epeen envy and irrational bitterness may have created some bias in your posts. Enlightening words follow.
Get over yourself. None of what has happened to Goonfleet is even remotely surprising.
Regardless of that, however, the only people who appear to be bitter or otherwise irrational in the two-way street that is the BoB-Baun relationship (to the extent that there is one) are a select few BoB members. Everytime I post I am met with irrational hostility and called names even when I am not even posting anything remotely negative about BoB (see the EC-8PR lag posts as a good example). Hell, I even talked to Blacklight about this and he seemed to agree.
The simple fact of the matter is that we are sitting in a region you supposedly own killing everyone who lives there and I have 2.5 weeks until i have to stop playing for a fairly long time. I want to shoot you guys again and I was expressing disappointment that it did not appear that you would be returning in time to meet my deadline. I was not mocking you, I was not insulting you and I was not disrespecting you. Yet, for some reason you still feel it justified to completely berate me at every opputunity. At least DBP didn't act like a child this time.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Kyguard
LFC 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces .. well seems to me like once again, BoB are proving that they *can* talk the talk and walk the walk...
Good Job.
As a an outside observer, the only conclusion to draw from the manner in which this thread has progressed is that GS is on its last legs...
That's what I thought, but then I decided to give it a further look in-game.. ===
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard
That's what I thought, but then I decided to give it a further look in-game..
hmm k... I am curious.. what did you see?
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Kari Moltov
Amarr The Forsakened Companions GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:10:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Kari Moltov on 11/08/2006 21:10:50
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/08/2006 11:26:21
The Confusion
Tassitus Mallinar We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space."
Karl Breinhar HEY! Get this straight. We don't care how much isk you have, we don't care that you're flying T2/Factioned HACs, we're just not playing your game, nor do we ever really *wish* to.
GusHobbleton I give it a month.
The Weakness
Goons are now split over 4 separate corporations.
2006.08.07 18:41 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention.
2006.08.11 04:11:16 combat Sebidin [LWTAX]<OHGOD> aims well at you, inflicting 0.8 damage.
Kari Moltov As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.
Armois honestly I'm not suprised we aren't fighting back against BoB and are trying to bide time, we went all in in XZH and lost.
The Results
All GoonSwarm POS that we have found so far in 0.0 space have been removed.
This includes every pos in the vicinity of S-U.
The Promise
A full report including all kills and losses in the near future since the beginning of the Goon war detailing EVERY kill and loss in EVERY system.
There will be no discussion of kills/losses in this thread, please stick to discussing OP.
The Conclusion
The GoonSwarm 0.0 Industrial Backbone has been smashed with very little real resistance.
The removal of GoonSwarm as a 0.0 entity continues.
All too easy.
dbp
*sighs*
Once again I'll say that sensible business decisions and weakness are very different things.
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uglylil foo
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:18:00 -
[135]
Edited by: uglylil foo on 11/08/2006 21:21:25 accidental altpost isd please delete
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 11/08/2006 21:39:07 I feel you are being way too transparent for my liking, Baun.
The fact of the matter is, DBP is posting our progress. If you feel its not interesting enough to warrant a post, thats good for you.. we don't need to hear about it. I'm sure its the mods responsibility to determine what should be posted, and not yours.
If you find the results unsurprising, well, thanks for the compliment! If you want to accuse people of being surprised, well thats fine too.. if slightly stupid.
I think your main beef is that we've prioritized the killing of newbies in tech 1 ships over Celest. Ouch, thats bound to hurt like hell. For all the kills you've scored in YZ-LQL they've failed to accomplish anything resembling a threat. Gankers in YZ would qualify under the term "status quo", and if its not Celest, its somebody else. If you really wanted some public limelight, like in the good ole days long past, you should know how to do it. Being lazy isn't one of them, sadly.
Sorry Baun. :'(
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Leo McGarry
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:43:00 -
[137]
Originally by: DELAAN Well if The Greater Goon are not apart of The GoonSwarm then my applogies on that but you were seen with a goonfleet member in Alachene now that could be he was just at a station when you were there.
Thanks Delaan CEO Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire The Future of Technology Today
I saw Goodie Proctor docked in the station with the devil!
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:49:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Baun on 11/08/2006 21:51:20
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
If you find the results unsurprising, well, thanks for the compliment! If you want to accuse people of being surprised, well thats fine too.. if slightly stupid.
In what sense it is stupid to point out that people are vastly overestimating the significance of what has happened? The two options are that they recognize it is not significant but are nonetheless surprised that it has transpired or that they neither recognize this nor are they unsurprised. Both alternatives are ignorant.
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I think your main beef is that we've prioritized the killing of newbies in tech 1 ships over Celest.
I have no beef other than the one already discussed above. I am simply dissapointed that it is unlikely that you will return to defend your space in the time for me to fight you. I have no beef with this, I am not frustrated by it. Rather I am merely disappointed. It appears, however, that picturing me as anything other than some raging moron foaming at the mouth shouting hate speech at BoB is beyond you. What a pity.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:57:00 -
[139]
I need to go shave my manly facial hairs, so we'll have to continue this in spirit. In the meantime the topic should go back to BoB vs GS, instead of Baun's dissapointment ^^
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |
Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:10:00 -
[140]
Originally by: CitzNo 097864
Originally by: Pezzle One facet of this episode catches my interest. DC, you state that several Goons have been gunned down fleeing the scene in haulers. Are they still in the Alliance or have they left it? Have any of them asked for passage rights out of the area? Have any attempted to surrender?
I realize that BoB policy certainly does not require much reason for attack outside of Empire space, I am simply curious if any have tried to mitigate personal damages. It certainly seems a shame so many end up suffering for the apparent actions of so few.
If a Goon (or really anyone in similar situations) came to you and said they had learned their lesson, or they are trying to distance themselves from the actions of others, or even that they had been relativly unaware of the situation until recently, and just wanted out, what would you (and to a larger degree, BoB) do?
They would post a thread about it.
bahahahhahahah gotta admit that one made me
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Tiberius Caesar
Sothebys
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:10:00 -
[141]
Anyone have the quotes by GS members saying they were going to win this war when it started?
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Haks'he Lirky
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:15:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 11/08/2006 20:45:59
Originally by: DigitalCommunist You're missing the point, Baun & Co. I suspect an extreme jealousy of our success, combined with epeen envy and irrational bitterness may have created some bias in your posts. Enlightening words follow.
Get over yourself. None of what has happened to Goonfleet is even remotely surprising.
Regardless of that, however, the only people who appear to be bitter or otherwise irrational in the two-way street that is the BoB-Baun relationship (to the extent that there is one) are a select few BoB members. Everytime I post I am met with irrational hostility and called names even when I am not even posting anything remotely negative about BoB (see the EC-8PR lag posts as a good example). Hell, I even talked to Blacklight about this and he seemed to agree.
The simple fact of the matter is that we are sitting in a region you supposedly own killing everyone who lives there and I have 2.5 weeks until i have to stop playing for a fairly long time. I want to shoot you guys again and I was expressing disappointment that it did not appear that you would be returning in time to meet my deadline. I was not mocking you, I was not insulting you and I was not disrespecting you. Yet, for some reason you still feel it justified to completely berate me at every opputunity. At least DBP didn't act like a child this time.
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Haks'he Lirky
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:16:00 -
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TWD
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:17:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: DigitalCommunist I need to go shave my manly facial hairs, so we'll have to continue this in spirit. In the meantime the topic should go back to BoB vs GS, instead of Baun's dissapointment ^^
Unless I am incorrect that angle was only perpetuated by virtue of you continuing to insult me without actually referencing what I had been addressing. So by all means.
[ 2004.11.10 06:30:18 ] Baun > we can argue about that if you want, but we obviously all hate these arrogant ****s so lets concentrate on that
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:45:00 -
[145]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: DigitalCommunist I need to go shave my manly facial hairs, so we'll have to continue this in spirit. In the meantime the topic should go back to BoB vs GS, instead of Baun's dissapointment ^^
Unless I am incorrect that angle was only perpetuated by virtue of you continuing to insult me without actually referencing what I had been addressing. So by all means.
[ 2004.11.10 06:30:18 ] Baun > we can argue about that if you want, but we obviously all hate these arrogant ****s so lets concentrate on that
Onoes its bitterbaun :((
Ya I am the one so bitter than I am posting chat logs from 2 years ago ........
You must have some misconception of the adjective with which you like to label me. Bitter people follow others around and irrationally harass them at every turn; kind of like you.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Sathrai
Unlimited Blade Works
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:59:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Sathrai on 11/08/2006 23:00:15
Originally by: DigitalCommunist And in true canonical EVE form, I dub any motivational attempts whose outcomes are the complete opposite of everything intended as "Remedial Solution". Any CEO who wants his corp to become an utter failure should employ the powers of the Remedial Solution, preferrably while wearing Ragnar's Hat.
Can we fit a "Xirtam Speech" in there somewhere while we're at it?
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 23:01:00 -
[147]
I love ya Baun <3
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 23:03:00 -
[148]
Why do you hate us Baun? :(
We give you good loot!
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zenofmoo
Amarr Prizm Ventures Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 23:16:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Dianabolic I love ya Baun <3
I love you too Baun, can we get a big ole man hug here? Chief Tard (CEO) Prism Ventures Ltd. |
munchy
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.12 00:16:00 -
[150]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Emrod Wow...
its like all the most powerfull alliance in Eve shooting Goon all day and night...
In the first time d2 kick them of Cloud ring with the help of their allies and Rise....
Now Bob with MC kill them all in syndicate and empire...and now the ASCN wardog...I mean Axiom empire take part of the hunt for strange reason...((i mean, what is the motive of Axiom to come here anyways?))
Omg...its not a good time to be a Goon
Aye it be a bandwagon.
the irony is strong in this one ---
Originally by: Kaaii (UCC)
We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.
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