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BenYGW
Caldari Syncore Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:16:00 -
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Surely you should have made a new alliance with the corps that supported you?
Taking controll of CC (even if by totaly fair, democratic vote) seems very underhand to me (CC has always been Tyrell).
The fact that Tyrell is now back in charge of CC makes me think that that the vote wasnt very fair atall.
I take it you now will be forming a new alliance to rival CC, and allow all the poor beaten-down members of CC to join and escape the evil tyrany of Tyrell? Or perhaps you realy arn't that botherd about the people that longed for you to lead a democratic version of CC?
Good job CC for putting Tyrell back where it should be.
(i dont have all the facts, my views are my own etc etc)
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Dracolich
North Star Networks Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:37:00 -
[92]
This is one of the most entertaining threads in a long time. _______________________________________
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:46:00 -
[93]
Skyraker7 you're making yourself out to be quite the tit
In rust we trust!!! |
Ajaya
Lore Islander and Nakor Kren Present
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:08:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Phuze My "plans" never backfire.
"Yarr n stuff"
Phuze
Lies! Your plan to have my babies clearly backfired when I became pregnant!
BTW, this has been a rather entertaining thread thus far. Backstabbing and conspiracies and hostile take overs and old m8's being KOS. Where's the popcorn! DANCE PUPPETS, DANCE!!! |
Dacari
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:09:00 -
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As the CEO of Snipers Inc we pledge our Alliance to Tyrell and CC as its always been and always will be.. You may have duped a member with Director rights!!! Then waited till he went on Vacation to pull this stunt off, but Im the CEO!!! You lose!!!!
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Tenaka Kahn
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:11:00 -
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I just wanted to formally say thank you to OBGP for their proving what I had brought up weeks ago and had been branded a lair for. Because I had left CC, you garnered the extra trust to turn you words around about the early warning I gave about your plans, now wveryone sees the forest and the trees. Highly vindicated, regards TK.
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IamBen
Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:14:00 -
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This might be one of the most retarded threads ever to grace this forum.
Person announces hostile take over and five posts later is booted...
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Ju'Ju
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: IamBen This might be one of the most retarded threads ever to grace this forum.
Person announces hostile take over and five posts later is booted...
I would hardly call a vote placed by corporation CEO's as being "hostile".
I would however consider having your Director Alts in said corporations logging in and changing the vote back to Tyrell, as hostile.
As stated, Dictatorship FTL!
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Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ju'Ju
I would however consider having your Director Alts in said corporations logging in and changing the vote back to Tyrell, as hostile.
As stated, Dictatorship FTL!
Read up for Dacari's post... what I quoted above is proof your a liar and a manipulator.
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Ajaya
Lore Islander and Nakor Kren Present
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:27:00 -
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Dictatorship is the only way it works. You put it in the hands of the masses and all you get is weakness and confusion and a watered down slab of uselessness. If you don't like the way the person(s) who made it all happen in the first place are running things, then mayhaps it's time to simply cut your losses and leave?
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Ju'Ju
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ju''Ju on 12/08/2006 02:30:44 Dacari's post proves nothing more than a miscommunication in his own ranks. To our knowledge, SI was all for a reformation of the structure. Maybe we were mislead. We however are not liars or mainpulators. We voice based on facts and not opinions.
edit: Again, please review the definition of "Coalition".
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Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ju'Ju Edited by: Ju''Ju on 12/08/2006 02:30:44 Dacari's post proves nothing more than a miscommunication in his own ranks. To our knowledge, SI was all for a reformation of the structure. Maybe we were mislead. We however are not liars or mainpulators. We voice based on facts and not opinions.
edit: Again, please review the definition of "Coalition".
So saying we have director alts in CC corps isnt an outright lie and an attempt to manipulate people who continue to support us? Dig your own grave we will be happy to put you in it.
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Ju'Ju
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Ju'Ju Edited by: Ju''Ju on 12/08/2006 02:30:44 Dacari's post proves nothing more than a miscommunication in his own ranks. To our knowledge, SI was all for a reformation of the structure. Maybe we were mislead. We however are not liars or mainpulators. We voice based on facts and not opinions.
edit: Again, please review the definition of "Coalition".
So saying we have director alts in CC corps isnt an outright lie and an attempt to manipulate people who continue to support us? Dig your own grave we will be happy to put you in it.
Nowhere in that post did I request anyone's allegiance. Hardly any manipulation.
Keep trying...
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MonkSEALPup
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:48:00 -
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At the very least, this has been a very entertaining day
There was no hostile takeover nor any annoucement of such. If the corps changing the executor really wanted to be hostile, Tyrell would have been booted and would be forming a new alliance right now while we held their Coalition name hostage. That, of course, is not what happened. We changed the executor as part of a majority, and had no fears of what might happen afterwards. I am glad Tyrell is back at the helm of CC, as it was so important to them that they were willing to do anything to get it back.
If nothing else, Tyrell will think twice (actually if they thought once it would be once more than they usually do) before mistreating member corps in the future. Tyrell is only in control of CC right now for one reason - we honored our commitment to not boot anyone once the executor changed. We did nothing wrong. We only responded to the requests of the majority of other corps in CC to send a message to Tyrell.
At the end of the day, that was successful. Look at all the attention this thread is getting. The fact that CC could get so outraged with its leadership to flip executors is proof positive that Tyrell needed a wakeup call. In a fashion typical for our corp, we stood up for what we believed to Tyrell's face in the days prior to the changeover, and when Tyrell shut down the forums to stop the mounting voice of dissent, the member corps were outraged and reacted. The result was a change in executors. The message to the Tyrell leaders was clear, and it was received.
I'm out of this thread now. Like I stated - quite the interesting day. See you guys soon
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N Solarz
Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:02:00 -
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*cough* flamewar *cough*
seriously though, much respect to Tyrell Corp. u guys are good enemys. will look forward to fighting you in the future. ( probably tomorrow : P )
*views are of my own opinion and not that of my alliance or corp*
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DHB FooFighter
Smoking Hillbillys Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:06:00 -
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this thread is awesome. Tyrell, i have fought you guys constantly for about 4 moths now, been a blast :). ASS and OGBP i have really only fought sparingly, Now i guess i will grab some popcorn and sit back and watch 2 hostile entities duke it out :P.
And ill be there to kill the winner. Oh whisper, as for my hostile actions in doril last night i didn't actually kill anyone so we still square for you letting me through that camp :P.
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krissi79
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:18:00 -
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Hmm , seems to me Tyrell has the respect of all of eve including mine although both partys are kos to me, i think there is no doubt iac and cc would kill the traitors togather before killing eachother lol
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Wwhisper
Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: MonkSEALPup At the very least, this has been a very entertaining day
There was no hostile takeover nor any annoucement of such. If the corps changing the executor really wanted to be hostile, Tyrell would have been booted and would be forming a new alliance right now while we held their Coalition name hostage. That, of course, is not what happened. We changed the executor as part of a majority, and had no fears of what might happen afterwards. I am glad Tyrell is back at the helm of CC, as it was so important to them that they were willing to do anything to get it back.
If nothing else, Tyrell will think twice (actually if they thought once it would be once more than they usually do) before mistreating member corps in the future. Tyrell is only in control of CC right now for one reason - we honored our commitment to not boot anyone once the executor changed. We did nothing wrong. We only responded to the requests of the majority of other corps in CC to send a message to Tyrell.
At the end of the day, that was successful. Look at all the attention this thread is getting. The fact that CC could get so outraged with its leadership to flip executors is proof positive that Tyrell needed a wakeup call. In a fashion typical for our corp, we stood up for what we believed to Tyrell's face in the days prior to the changeover, and when Tyrell shut down the forums to stop the mounting voice of dissent, the member corps were outraged and reacted. The result was a change in executors. The message to the Tyrell leaders was clear, and it was received.
I'm out of this thread now. Like I stated - quite the interesting day. See you guys soon
I'm starting to think you guys actually believe this line of crap your trying to shovel. You did what you did with lies and miscomception, which are slowly coming to light.
The fact that you did this at 3 a.m. is prof of your underhandedness. Just like a thief in the night. The fact that an Ass guy just logged on to TS and started banning people is continued prof of what you and your allies are like.
In your post to the alliance after your temp position as leader, you signed SI Redleg sig. Redleg is currenly away on vacation, but I'm sure when he gets back you'll hear about an out ragged redleg.
When the true leader came on he was outragged and changed things quickly, which is why you lost control.
You can say whatever drivil you like at the end of the day everyone knows the truth and we are humbled by the support shown us by the Eve universe. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker |
Dacari
Snipers Inc Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:30:00 -
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Alt Director ?? Lets clear this up?? Not a single member of SI had any Idea that you where doing this, we agreed to nothing with you!! Doing it at 3am with not a single SI member online for this so called vote proves your intent.. You've often said you are a Dictator and have proved that ingame!! So ask yourself what dictator has a vote that isn't allready stacked in his favor??? Well you had your 3 minutes of fame and will soon be forgotten..
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Wwhisper
Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter this thread is awesome. Tyrell, i have fought you guys constantly for about 4 moths now, been a blast :). ASS and OGBP i have really only fought sparingly, Now i guess i will grab some popcorn and sit back and watch 2 hostile entities duke it out :P.
And ill be there to kill the winner. Oh whisper, as for my hostile actions in doril last night i didn't actually kill anyone so we still square for you letting me through that camp :P.
-Salute- ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker |
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Ju'Ju
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dacari Alt Director ?? Lets clear this up?? Not a single member of SI had any Idea that you where doing this, we agreed to nothing with you!! Doing it at 3am with not a single SI member online for this so called vote proves your intent.. You've often said you are a Dictator and have proved that ingame!! So ask yourself what dictator has a vote that isn't allready stacked in his favor??? Well you had your 3 minutes of fame and will soon be forgotten..
hmmm, well someone in your corp changed your corp's support. Perhaps you should address that first and foremost.
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Dacari
Snipers Inc Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:40:00 -
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Hmmm we did!!
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DHB WildCat
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:19:00 -
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I've been in and out of curse running raids and have fought only with Tyrrel. Wwhisper is a great guy, and most of the curse coalition are great guys. Glad to see you back in charge, now keep ratting 8).
DHB WildCat
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DeathSpawn66
Minmatar Armoured Assassins
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:23:00 -
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Shame on me for being at work and missing this fun. Well's all's I can say is crap. I am very afraid of the remaining cc people. Having flown with them for a month I know that we will be completely wiped to the floor. I wave my hat in cc's general direction. I pledge my allegiance to iac and tyrrax still! Btw definately will be a sweet rattlesnake video coming out from this. -The Loveable Nub
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: DeathSpawn66 Shame on me for being at work and missing this fun. Well's all's I can say is crap. I am very afraid of the remaining cc people. Having flown with them for a month I know that we will be completely wiped to the floor. I wave my hat in cc's general direction. I pledge my allegiance to iac and tyrrax still! Btw definately will be a sweet rattlesnake video coming out from this.
<3
Hilarious thread, and lots of fun today. Looking forward to seeing what happens next !
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joviah Let it be known to all that Tyrell IS the Curse Coalition. Anyone that knows the history of the corporation understands this. People who weren't around during the old CA wars would have no clue.
Exactly.
How many of you pretenders actually have the first idea where the name and ideals for the Curse Coalition came from? If you think it started in Doril, you are sadly mistaken.
Good luck, guys. -
Latest MC Movie - Nation Building |
DeathSpawn66
Minmatar Armoured Assassins
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:31:00 -
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i guess its cool to be friends with cc. Is it too late for me to join in on the cc party? Phuze made me do all this stuff anyways, she has ebil ceo mind control skills. I wanted to be good for once, i guess this is what I get for being in a corp that's run by a girl....oooh diss! -The Loveable Nub
Who stole my freakin sig again? :-( |
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:34:00 -
[118]
*Thread Cleaned*
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LURCH1
Minmatar Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.12 06:58:00 -
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Ok, from what I've read on the forums and a few guess's based on human nature I believe the following:
A subset of CC's members decided to take control. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they had the best of intentions. Namely "We're doing this for everyoneÆs benefit".
The plan involved the originating members, those ceo's that they could talk into it (I'm assuming there was much discussion of the "golden age" that the takeover would bring about and the benefits for those corps.). It's also apparent that 1 and possibly 2 corp's votes were effectively hijacked. The vote was done at a time (3 am?) that few of the non-aligned CC members would be available.
It appears that as soon as the takeover was accomplished the temporary victors acted to cement that status by bringing in 1 or more new corps that they controlled. Fortunately that takes 24 hours before the new corp(s) had voting privileges.
As to why they didn't just kick Tyrell out, well that was politics. It appears that 1 or more of the corps only agreed to go along if it was promised not to kick anyone. It's also allowed them to appear to take the high road and laude praises on the former executors.
Is CC a democracy? NO. Do I want it to be a democracy? NO Are there ways to express my views? YES
When it comes down to it, if CC changes so that it's not a good fit for me I'll leave. And I'll leave on good terms because that's the reasonable and honorable thing to do. As for corporations, well they can act in an honorable fashion as well, or not... And that's the basis for their reputation.
Lurch1
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Lord Kronox
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Posted - 2006.08.12 08:23:00 -
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What OGBP and ASS did is a disgrace to call a democratic decision. OGBP wanted to prove that democracy works? They only proved that it doesn't. Loyalty is what is most important in a coalition, especially one at war. OGBP and ASS completely lack this trait. Enjoy getting podded! Kronox out
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