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gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2014.10.07 18:38:00 -
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afkalt wrote:I've yet to see why a newbie dying on the way to null is a problem (oh noes, my 6m atron!). Unless they're in an itty with ALL their earthly possessions. Show me a serious null presence that doesnt have a logistic wing.
A swift glance at the map shows all but the most recent camps - and looking at the map is null 101.
Question: WHY should people moving to "one of the most dangerous areas of space" have their hands held to get there? And don't say "because newbie" -- if you can't get in and out yourself, you're not fit to be there in the first place.
this.
Theres lots of ways to "learn" things in eve, jumping head first in null is one way to do it and sure, people do, will this make it harder for them, yes, but there allowing really new character the option to jump straight to null so no if anything it will be easier to get a new player to ur null staging/ home as it sounds like there will be a simple button to press, but as a brand new player your better off going fac war/ eve uni/ rvb for a bit first if you want to immediately jump into pvp. When I hear of a brand new (to eve) player joining my corp/ alliance I set it as challenge to get them on some kill mails before the days end! |
gobbybobby
Dutch East Querious Company
Phoebe Freeport Republic
48
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Posted - 2014.10.07 18:38:21 -
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afkalt wrote:I've yet to see why a newbie dying on the way to null is a problem (oh noes, my 6m atron!). Unless they're in an itty with ALL their earthly possessions. Show me a serious null presence that doesnt have a logistic wing.
A swift glance at the map shows all but the most recent camps - and looking at the map is null 101.
Question: WHY should people moving to "one of the most dangerous areas of space" have their hands held to get there? And don't say "because newbie" -- if you can't get in and out yourself, you're not fit to be there in the first place.
this.
Theres lots of ways to "learn" things in eve, jumping head first in null is one way to do it and sure, people do, will this make it harder for them, yes, but there allowing really new character the option to jump straight to null so no if anything it will be easier to get a new player to ur null staging/ home as it sounds like there will be a simple button to press, but as a brand new player your better off going fac war/ eve uni/ rvb for a bit first if you want to immediately jump into pvp. When I hear of a brand new (to eve) player joining my corp/ alliance I set it as challenge to get them on some kill mails before the days end! |
Oswald Bolke
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
32
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Posted - 2014.11.06 04:29:34 -
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Feyrin wrote:I looked at this post initially and thought lol no. But actually veterans use the Ares for exactly this as a glorified interdiction immune shuttle. Adding an interdiction immune "T2" shuttle with build cost around the same as an ares actually wouldn't change anything for Vets but would certainly help new players.
I was just talking about this earlier In BNI chat. and to be honest, it's a great idea. Lower build cost would be a must however....and maybe take away the cargo hold (lore would be it's filled with nullifying equipment) with the new no "death clone" thing this would help newbros move much easier, and open up the shuttle market again
It needs a skill train though, but not as intense as doing intys. maybe just frigate 5 would do |
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
459
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Posted - 2014.11.06 08:30:33 -
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So nobody cares if a newbie gets ganked in high sec, but it's somehow not on for them to die going out to null?
Riiiiiiiight, that seems legit. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3062
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Posted - 2014.11.06 08:56:00 -
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Absolutely not. I was running Lv2s in an interceptor when I was only about two weeks old. That's how easy they are to train into. |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
252
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Posted - 2014.11.06 09:37:51 -
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Feyrin wrote:I looked at this post initially and thought lol no. But actually veterans use the Ares for exactly this as a glorified interdiction immune shuttle. Adding an interdiction immune "T2" shuttle with build cost around the same as an ares actually wouldn't change anything for Vets but would certainly help new players.
The difference being disposable alts can't just buy one off he market and hope in. This is such a terrible idea.
@OP slippery slope arguments are always ridiculous when you have a CCP in the sky who can just say 'No' and slap things down. If you really need lore to save your immersion, figuring some out and submitting it for inclusion is a far preferable solution to twice-a-day instascouts.
A plex to you if it incorporates berries with disastrous consequences.
Travelling at the speed of love.
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