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Moloney
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:30:00 -
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Why donate, you will have to train for what ever it is no matter which faction it's for anyhow. Not like you can train 2,3 or 4 skills anyhow if it's faction based. |
Panther X
High Flyers
The Kadeshi
12
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:34:00 -
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Hmmmmm Sleeper tech? Navy intervention? Sounds like Tech 3 battleships to me.....
In my opinion (which no one really gives a rats patoot about) lore wise, it's time for an advancement in Tech 3 class ships. Corpies have been discussing it and some think T3 frigates, most think T3 battleships.
I'm on the battleship side of things. Frigates don't have enough fitting flexibility to make a decent t3. Battleships on the otherhand have many more fitting slots available and are a seemingly logical choice for advancements in Sleeper tech.
With the changes in Jump Drive mechanics, could Tech 3 battleships be our path to battlefield glory?
A cloaky, nullified battleship? Scarrrry.
I shall be patient....mostly. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
740
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:10:00 -
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Panther X wrote:Hmmmmm Sleeper tech? Navy intervention? Sounds like Tech 3 battleships to me..... In my opinion (which no one really gives a rats patoot about) lore wise, it's time for an advancement in Tech 3 class ships. Corpies have been discussing it and some think T3 frigates, most think T3 battleships. I'm on the battleship side of things. Frigates don't have enough fitting flexibility to make a decent t3. Battleships on the otherhand have many more fitting slots available and are a seemingly logical choice for advancements in Sleeper tech. With the changes in Jump Drive mechanics, could Tech 3 battleships be our path to battlefield glory? A cloaky, nullified battleship? Scarrrry. I shall be patient....mostly.
... sigh.. I'll bite...
It can be one of.. oh a dozen things, the most likely scenario is a T3 ship. Most likely, it will be either a Frigate or a Destroyer (yes I said it, a T3 destroyer). This is assuming that they want to start exploiting those frigate holes nobody uses.
One of the other options, isn't a ship, but its equipment. The major "fear" is that empires won't be able to access lovely T2 equipment due to the jump freighter changes, so a "solution" to that is for either a) use wormhole salvage and blueloot to create Wormhole Equipment (onpar with T2 but still different) b) start straight out dropping wormhole equipment from sites (aka, Super Sleeper Loot Rats).
I don't see the T3 battleship as an option, mainly because it would encroach too much on the Marauder, Black Ops (when they get their rebalance), and the current T1 Battleships.
They already tested the concept with the Nestor, and for that ship to really make a difference, it would need a covops cloaking device. The problem is is that the ship would be WAAAY too powerful with a covops cloak. It'd be able to take blackops bridges, cloak at anytime, and basically pwn the field.
You launch a legion of T3 battleships with the same ability..... 0.0, wormhole space, etc would turn into nothing but Battleship Cloaked Online.
I don't see a T3 battleship (does not provide enough to the game). Not to say that is what they are doing, but they wouldn't be able to be balanced in any credible way, especially due to their future potential cost.
Most likely, you are looking at a Frigate or Tanked Destroyer, or actual wormhole equipment.
Assuming sanity prevails, its probably one of those three.
Again, that is pure assumption based on 0 evidence. For all we know this is all a giant scam to release a new "buy now" ship skin 
Edit: I'll clarify on why a destroyer and its probable role.
Eve needs a hunting probing ship. Currently, if you want to combat probe, you are using a T3 Cruiser, maybe the Stratios, or some maligned ship and some alt that is fit solely to probe. There is room for a probing smaller sized ship, that is combat fit. The likely most combat capable ships, that isn't used to enough extent in Wormhole Space, would probably be the destroyers. Now we use interdictors all the time, but usually they die in a ball of flames (that's fine). A T3 destroyer, that can combat probe.. maaaybe cloak, would be of some use to actual hunters and killers, as there really is no frig or destroyer that can do that.
Adding a interdiction bubble would be too powerful, but a cloaking destroyer capable of combat probing is a hole that hasn't been filled yet in eve.
Is it sane to create, with the added cost..... who knows. Eitherway, that's my speculation, insane or not.
Personally, I would prefer actual wormhole equipment. People prefer loot vs a single shiny ship that they may or may not fly.
Yaay!!!! |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
24eme Legion Etrangere
529
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:20:00 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:But... how do I donate to the Royal Khanid Navy?
I like you! |
Elyas Crux
Sefem Velox
Swift Angels Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:03:00 -
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Salpun wrote:If todays patch was a part of this the patch notes are not updated.
Must be a new feature of wormhole space to 'shake things up' it wouldn't be the first change without patch notes. |
Pic'n dor
Epsilon Lyr
Nulli Secunda
32
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:20:00 -
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Tech 3 mods ?
Sleeper Issue Jump Range Augmentor
Neural Network Fatigue Reductor
Rejoignez-nous : http://www.epsilon-lyr.com |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
741
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:40:00 -
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Pic'n dor wrote:Tech 3 mods ? Sleeper Issue Jump Range Augmentor Neural Network Fatigue Reductor
CCP's more likely to change the fuel type for all jump ships to require consumable sleeper materials than do that.
And now I just jinxed all wormhole space :-/
Yaay!!!! |
Somatic Neuron
Masterwork Productions Inc
51
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:46:00 -
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Sure doesn't feel like science is even a valid profession. Maybe someday you'll create an actual interface for science and actually make it workable and useful and not depend upon NPCs.
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Elyas Crux
Sefem Velox
Swift Angels Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:01:00 -
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I'm not a fan of the all or nothing reward system and I think it discourages participation.
As for having loyalty to a faction, I gave up on that when I moved to wormhole space. Wormhole space has it's own factionless RPing which is far stronger in the community than any ties to Empire Navies.
I genuinely love the idea of introducing changes with events and lore but I think this is the wrong way of doing it.
If I end up participating in this it will probably be through Guillome Renard's campaign.
Low class wormholes need some love but having the option to gamble your loot in a community event is not fun gameplay. |
Hicksimus
Torgue
345
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:55:00 -
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OMG It's going to be the fabled Tech 3 mining ships isn't it!
Just kidding, please no rage.
Do you have it? |
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Veskin Sentinel
SUPREME MATHEMATICS
A Band Apart.
0
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Posted - 2014.10.08 00:02:00 -
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I like this event.
Well, viewing things from the lore side, it is obvious that the empires still have something up their sleeves when it comes to sophisticated technology and it is true that they keep it from us capsuleers. But what we can benefit from this will probably be some new faction modules or even ships and the more we support our favorite faction the better their stuff will come out. After that we can use it at our discretion. So even the smallest contribution will matter.
I am using the opportunity to warn you: if the Sleeper code has gone crazy then we should all be prepared. What stops the Sleepers from jumping through the woormholes to K-Space? I mean - most of the wormholes lead to Anoikis right?
So better do the smart thing and prepare some ships with high omni tank.  |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
833
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:27:00 -
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Veskin Sentinel wrote:So better do the smart thing and prepare some ships with high omni tank.
Would be proper hilarious (though afaik have no basis in lore) to have sleepers invade large swathes of new eden for a few days including highsec - having people warp their CNRs to a L4 and find 6 sleepless guardians spawned :D |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:14:00 -
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So you want us to play along, yet you won't give us any info on what we're doing.
If you want to have your roleplaying events to pretend there is a backstory fine, but if your making changes, or introducing new tech to EVE, please make a non-roleplaying dev-blog for those of us that give 0 pucks about the storyline.
Example:
New Sleeper tech coming out. Donate these things to this guy to get your name on it and be first to get one. (insert name/type of mod, and a brief overview of it)
See how easy that is?
Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
3385
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:31:00 -
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How many points do you guys have now? 
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest;
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains;
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven."
GÖâ-áJovian Proverb-áGÖâ |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3849
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:33:00 -
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T3 Battleships, yayGǪ! OK, probably not. But it's still wishful thinking...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Meloni HELL
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
13
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Posted - 2014.10.08 03:18:00 -
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Focusing on the lore makes me happy - rewards, or no rewards! :D |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
168
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Posted - 2014.10.08 03:51:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:So you want us to play along, yet you won't give us any info on what we're doing.
If you want to have your roleplaying events to pretend there is a backstory fine, but if your making changes, or introducing new tech to EVE, please make a non-roleplaying dev-blog for those of us that give 0 pucks about the storyline.
Example:
New Sleeper tech coming out. Donate these things to this guy to get your name on it and be first to get one. (insert name/type of mod, and a brief overview of it)
See how easy that is?
Nah, the lore based scavenger hunt will probably be the only mention of this before it's implemented. I wouldn't expect them to release a dev-blog outlining the full details sometime between the end of the event and the launch of the next patchspansion. |
Pritovsky Pootis
Eschelon Directive
Universal Consortium
18
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Posted - 2014.10.08 04:13:00 -
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Lol to this. CCP seems to have suddenly realised how much their changes to WH's suck and instead of fixing them after seeing the damage to activity in WH space (like we have been saying so for the past month or so), they try to do this event instead in order to try and increase activity again, rather than fixing the god awful changes that caused the problem in the first place.
Just revert the changes and all will be well again!
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Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2014.10.08 04:51:00 -
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Makes one appreciate comprehensive "outcome" lists in past "lives" :) |
Veskin Sentinel
SUPREME MATHEMATICS
A Band Apart.
0
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Posted - 2014.10.08 05:01:00 -
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The only thing I don't like about wormhole space right now is the new nebulae. Such dark and depressive colors, pale, driving away any visitors. I know that there has been a lot of work involved in creating the new ones and I apreciate that, but I think it was not needed. The old ones were so beautiful. Believe it or not, that was one of the main reasons that brought me there. I want them back. But this is probably for another topic (that I will soon create). |
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Emiko Rowna
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2014.10.08 05:52:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This event is primarily aimed at those people who want to support their chosen faction and win the collective goal of getting their race first shot at the new tech.
So when you are saying GÇ£factionGÇ¥ are you talking about GÇ£Faction WarfareGÇ¥, GÇ£Faction NavyGÇ¥ or your race?
If this is related to Factional Warfare it will benefit a few that seldom use wormholes.
If you are talking about a Faction Navy should you donations be based on where you have rep or the one related to your starting race?
Will this tech have a race requirement and if so would I want to donate to the Navy of my race or to the Navy I have the highest rep with?
As there is nothing gated by your starting race right now many have higher rep with other factionGÇÖs navy. Where will my donations do be the greatest service?
Clearly IGÇÖm confused, can someone help me here?
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Kusum Fawn
State Protectorate
Caldari State
548
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Posted - 2014.10.08 06:22:00 -
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1. this has nothing to do with faction warfare.
2. this is a ccp event
3. the rewards for this event are currently listed as only going to the highest donator to their particular faction -
devblog wrote:The commissions will be given to the character that donates the highest value of Neural Network Analyzers and Sleeper Data Libraries (combined and weighted) to each faction over the course of the event.
This statement from the dev blog implies that there will be Four prizes total, one to each highest donator to each faction (one for amarr, one for gallente etc.) it also seems possible for one character to be the highest donator to each of the four factions.
4. It does not seem restricted by starting race.
5. the ldev blog also implies that the total donations to each empire will determine the order in which the new sleeper inspired items will be released for each race. Ie, if Amarr is the overall winner of donations, the ammarrian X module/subsystem/ship item will be released before the second place winner Caldari X module/subsystem/ship item and so on.
6, in theory your (smallish) donations will not matter a huge amount. as all four races will get something eventually, its only the intended race to the top for "most donations" that matter.
7. If you do not have a billion or so isk to throw at this, its probably not worth it for you. I may be wrong in this but i would guess that each of the factions will have one or more donations of a billion isk each.
Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Ned Black
Driders
95
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Posted - 2014.10.08 07:05:00 -
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So the timeline is as folows
1. CCP implement changes on Sisi making the WH crowd have a fit
2. CCP goes out with a blog explaining the changes... WH crowd still has a fit and tries to dissuade CCP from going through with the changes because they are not the droids they are looking for.
3. CCP turns the changes loose on production server. Large numbers of wormhole dwellers, especially the people in the lower classes start thinking about moving out.
4. Low end WH dwellers start moving out en masse.
5. CCP brainstorms... how do we get people back into WHs? Especially the lower ends which now are pretty much nothing but PI growing grounds?
6. Someone comes up with a brilliant idea. Lets give people a hint of something cool coming Soon (Tm) and in order to get it they need to collect as many sleeper yada yada yada as possible and turn them in... This will make people venture into wormholes, creating pew opportunities for recreational WH divers and then everything will be good again.
7. WH dwellers that moved out and does not want to live in nullsece BS politics cancel their accounts.
8. So lower end wormholes is depopulating. Server population is decreasing as canceled subs run out...
To me this feels more like a kneejerk, a last ditch desperate attempt at getting people back into wormholes before they end up completely empty. |
Moloney
The Scope
Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2014.10.08 07:06:00 -
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Pritovsky Pootis wrote:Lol to this. CCP seems to have suddenly realised how much their changes to WH's suck and instead of fixing them after seeing the damage to activity in WH space (like we have been saying so for the past month or so), they try to do this event instead in order to try and increase activity again, rather than fixing the god awful changes that caused the problem in the first place.
Just revert the changes and all will be well again!
^ This. |
Grawr Hatter
Resurrection Ventures
Un.Bound
8
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Posted - 2014.10.08 07:37:00 -
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1. Constant drops from CCP about player constructed gates.
2. Major nut kick nerf to jump distance.
3. Sudden interest by empires in sleeper tech that points to lore involving the sleeper/talocan jump gates.
Think the answer on what is coming is very clear.
Resurrection Ventures is currently recruiting. Join our Public channel Resurrection Cafe for more information.
https://gate.eveonline.com/Corporation/Resurrection%20Ventures |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective
Unsettled.
152
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Posted - 2014.10.08 07:41:00 -
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Ned Black wrote:So the timeline is as folows
1. CCP implement changes on Sisi making the WH crowd have a fit
2. CCP goes out with a blog explaining the changes... WH crowd still has a fit and tries to dissuade CCP from going through with the changes because they are not the droids they are looking for.
3. CCP turns the changes loose on production server. Large numbers of wormhole dwellers, especially the people in the lower classes start thinking about moving out.
4. Low end WH dwellers start moving out en masse.
5. CCP brainstorms... how do we get people back into WHs? Especially the lower ends which now are pretty much nothing but PI growing grounds?
6. Someone comes up with a brilliant idea. Lets give people a hint of something cool coming Soon (Tm) and in order to get it they need to collect as many sleeper yada yada yada as possible and turn them in... This will make people venture into wormholes, creating pew opportunities for recreational WH divers and then everything will be good again.
7. WH dwellers that moved out and does not want to live in nullsece BS politics cancel their accounts.
8. So lower end wormholes is depopulating. Server population is decreasing as canceled subs run out...
To me this feels more like a kneejerk, a last ditch desperate attempt at getting people back into wormholes before they end up completely empty.
Then again, lower class wormhole space is actually full of action and you're just spouting complete bullshit.
Hyperion w-space changes were simply purely positive to non-capital w-space. |
Blaze Tiberius
Collateral Damage Syndicate
The Volition Cult
1
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Posted - 2014.10.08 08:08:00 -
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Personally I am excited to compete!
Amarr Victor! :) |
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CCP Falcon
9092
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Posted - 2014.10.08 08:38:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:the amarr dude doesn't look very enthusiastic about the event
Amarrians never are.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
409
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Posted - 2014.10.08 08:42:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Bienator II wrote:the amarr dude doesn't look very enthusiastic about the event Amarrians never are.
Amarrians can contain their enthusiasm with much ability - it only appears to outsides that Amarrians are constantly grumpy whereas infact we are almost giggling inside with glee, all from the position of the eyebrows.
Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3850
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Posted - 2014.10.08 10:02:00 -
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Grawr Hatter wrote:Think the answer on what is coming is very clear.
Is it player-constructed gates?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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