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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.11 13:42:00 -
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Creamdream wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:It's without a doubt a waste of time to train big ships. At least for me. Although I do have a Sin pilot gathering dust somewhere, I have never really liked flying anything larger than a cruiser. Anything bigger is too slow and boring for me. Mr Epeen  MR EPEEEEEN USE SIGNATURE FOR ******* EPEEN He does.
It's just that those who do not have it ...
... simply do not get it.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Hengle Teron
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.11 14:09:00 -
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you don't need to train for more than shuttles even |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:59:00 -
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I always thought the game would be better with nothing bigger than a BS.
But then CCP needs to give them something to train for, so this is where we are:
Big Blue Doughnut of carebears scared to lose there big ships they trained for. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.12 02:00:00 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:you don't need to train for more than shuttles even
Then there are the more intelligent players. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.12 02:07:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:I always thought the game would be better with nothing bigger than a BS.
But then CCP needs to give them something to train for, so this is where we are:
Big Blue Doughnut of carebears scared to lose there big ships they trained for.
Eh? I get paid to lose those ships. Scared of what exactly? |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.12 07:28:00 -
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A lot of the coolest ships are Frigates, wider variety, there is only two T1 destroyers for each faction I think. To get in a Battleship you need Spaceship Command 4 and Battle cruiser 3 before you can train Battleship 1.
I figure I will have a fair idea what a bigger ship is like by that time.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Solops Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:20:00 -
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Shandra Manaya wrote:I'm new to eve but one thing I noticed, if you take two frigates you can easy destroys a bs, which brings me a question, why train for large ships if small has a large advantage over them? even more in the case of ships that use missiles because whit just a few more m/s you already cancels more than 50% damage, if not more. i not surpise if a frigate alone can destroy one bs even if it takes time.as I am new to eve may be i having a wrong view of the matter ,and if tion to ever wnt a bsomeone can explain to me why to train for bigger ships I thank.
its a Waste of Time and money CCP is in a need Of New business Model I understand they gotta pay the bills however Ive abandoned my multi accounts and ambitions to fly a Titan . Something is wrong when You got to pay for something that is virtual and not real and you will never own especially if its going cost you more in the long run than a down payment on real World House or a Car. If CCP Wants More than 50000 playing a day and make it worth while to train skills and buy bling bling ships, attract more casual and New players and make 1 Billion in Revenue Like League Of Legends they got to change there business model. |
Hades Dark
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:14:00 -
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To the OP, There isn't a yes or no answer, due each ship has different play styles and counters. Yes numbers can win however strategy, character skill level, fittings, experience, etc are all variables which most players do not take into account. Frigates can kill Battleships, however what is the role of a battleship? A battleship can kill frigates if it is fitted and its purpose is that. So its how you want to play the game and what style, fits you best when dealing with multiple variables in the game. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:20:00 -
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Bigger the ship the bigger the kill mail when you lose it, so long as you are ready for that you'll be fine.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Kuldrek Culduvere
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.15 06:58:00 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Part of the problem for newbies is mentality coming from other MMOG style games. They're expecting to see a "gear progression", in that as you level up, you get progressively better gear that obsoletes any of the old stuff you get. Along those same lines, anyone who's "leveled up" can ROTFLstomp a lower level person, PVP wise.
They tend to see the frig->dessy->cruiser->BC->BS progression as Eve's idea of "levels", and expect the same behaviour out of the ships that they'd get from say, leveling a warrior to 50 and getting a pwnsauce lvl50 sword.
Eve isn't like that. Each ship type has roughly defined roles, and all of those roles are useful, in one way or another, to overall PVP. To be fair, the level I-II-III-IV-(V) mission progression tends to reinforce this idea. Burner missions may help break up this impression in the future, though.
Kinda-sorta. I used to feel that way, too, with the "bigger is better for Level 4s..." Then I joined a corp that planned on going into WHs, so I started training up Tech II cruisers (unfortunately, RL stuff among the leadership kept us from doing the WH stuff), and I found out that except for the smaller tank, an Ishtar is just as good, if not better, for most Level 4s than a Domi. (Mainly because it has the same basic damage profile while having a faster lock time and a faster speed, which helps in the multi-room missions were the gates are 50-60 km away). |
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Infrequent
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.10.15 08:51:00 -
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I'd just like to point out that a single Hyperion on a gate will wreck your **** with ease, and I watched a Raven take on 15 rifters on a gate the other week, he killed about 4 or 5 before they disengaged and ran away, they barely scratched him. It's not always as simple as 2 > 1, so don't make the mistake of believing that. |
MajorBean
Mystic Methheads
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Posted - 2014.10.15 09:01:00 -
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Training for big mining ships is a waste of time. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.15 10:26:00 -
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MajorBean wrote:Training for big mining ships is a waste of time.
I wouldn't admit to knowing anything about that on the forum.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic
The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2014.10.15 10:42:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Until you orbit within 5000m ...
... and the big boobs of Light send you back where you belong ......
Big boobs of light? I want big boobs of light.
@OP Pilot and fitting skill has a lot more to do with the outcome of such a fight than the size of the ships involved.
GöÇGòó The Explorer I
GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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Chemma Chi
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.15 10:58:00 -
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Well, you know what they say.
The bigger you are, the bigger you fall. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.10.15 11:51:00 -
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All ships have their place in the game but for newer players smaller ones tend to be better do to low so in core and fitting skills as well as being cheaper |
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