It's not CCP's fault one group of players decided to hedge their bets on what everyone with half a brain could see would be deemed unbalanced the instant it began prolifering. I called it fairly quickly, but Grath kept muttering about how it was "the counter to blobs", and "we're fewer, so we have to use this tactic to win, and it's our right since we have more SP than you".

The mechanic doesn't change whether or not you're jumping into rats or an enemy.

Looking at the jump drive in this fashion is pointless, because you can look at any action in a small enough time frame to curtail it to your exact argument.

What you should be looking at is the aggregate cost of all jumps to get to what their objective is.

If an individual person is using three jump bridges to get from his home system to his local hub, then the aggregate cost is low because it is casual use.

If a fleet of 250 players is trying to use a jump bridge network to get from Deklein to Delve, that aggregate cost would be gigantic and prohibitive to any organization. Not only that, but the proposed changes would mean that a jump bridge could not hold enough fuel to facilitate 250 ships larger than frigs without being refueled. Logistically speaking, they'd have to refill each bridge every jump, and that would not be feasible. This is why it would have the same exact impact as the jump fatigue, except more beneficial in other areas of the game.

Thus, saying "but what are they doing on the other side of the jump" literally has no impact, because that argument could be extrapolated all the way to "but what are they doing when they log into eve, how should the login mechanic change if they're pvping or mining in high sec".

While I appreciate that Phoebe really shook things up in the Eve universe, I'd really like to install a fatigue timer on the elevators in CCP's offices. Oh, you want to go to the fifth floor? Well, either you can wait fifteen minutes between each floor, or else you won't be able to use the elevator for the next two weeks. You don't like that? Take the stairs. Which are guarded by dogs. Or bees. Or dogs with bees in their mouths that shoot bees at you when they bark.

In other words, on the larger level, i classify Phoebe a success. On the individual level, it is a frustrating mechanic.

Number of accounts needed to drop yourself a cyno: 2
Number of accounts needed to scout a gate for yourself: 2

Yeah, you're doing what those people were suggesting that will get you to millenia-long timers.

I did tell you people power projection cannot be nerfed.

Reavers dont exist.

You need to be VERY dumb, or traveling under drugs to do that to yourself. Jumping ASAP when the timer gets to allow you it is NOT the fastest way to travel even!

CCP want to fix nulsec and turn it into a lively conflict driven place - KILL the GAINT COALITIONS, until they do that nulsec will remain a static little hole in the universe where you play the game as a coalition dictates (whether you belong to one or not) because CCP punishes active game play.

I think this jump fatigue bs finished Eve-Online for me. I have been a Ceo for my own corp for a few years now and have been playing eve since 2004. In that time I have seen may changes to Eve some good; some just stupid. We continue to see unwanted changes by the vast majority or people to help the pvp community get some foothold in others sov. CPP continually makes changes to help a few forums groupies find their epeen. But how is CPP helping the industrials, the miners, the logistics pilots? I think if CPP was really concerned by falling subscriptions they would do something about uncontrolled inflation and fix plex prices around 500 mil.

Ofc it was my choice (wasnt even far), I was out drinking and didnt have time for the eve waiting-game bullshit which this game is all about these days. Improve either range or reduce max fatigue to like 24-48hours would still have the same effect, and still be much better for players who aint got all day sitting infront of their computer. Its not a problem to avoid fatigue, but its a bad gamemechanic forcing players to wait for days, even weeks only to be able to play again. Titans have been a iron coffin for years, now you cant even move it. CCP: "just use gates", ye lol we all saw how that went ~ 6hours later..