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Kal'Kalagan Takahashi Syndicate Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:20:00 - [1] Am thinking about getting a Claw, but will have to choose between a web or a scram. So if I wish to enagage other interceptors without a web will 150mm II's track and hit them at their top speeds? Claw Vs Stilleto for example. Alternatively I will never ask for anything else if CCP gives this ship a 3rd mid slot
Laythun Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:24:00 - [2] no they wont track at hit a ceptor moving fast. *See You In Space Cowboy*
Kal'Kalagan Takahashi Syndicate Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:40:00 - [3] Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. <3
Phish1 Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:56:00 - [5] anything can be killed by the rifter.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 10:04:00 - [6] Yes you need web. That qualifies crusader and claw as one of the useless. --------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
Boonaki Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.08.14 10:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Phish1 anything can be killed by the rifter. That's not true! Fear the Ibis of doom!
Xantina Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.08.14 10:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. Depends how you set up your Stiletto :) the average Rifter pilot don't fit ecm and needs to get in range for his ACs :)
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. Link for some good thoughts on Claw setups. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Dethis Caldari Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. Never seen the jagerbomber videos i take it? although long range intys will keep you at range this setup will bbq most other intys 1v1. look it up watch the video if you dont believe me :P -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Pepperami Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Phish1 anything can be killed by the rifter. FACT
Pepperami Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:14:00 - [12] oh, and please keep calling the claw useless, this will serve my purposes by both getting in boosted (even tho it's fine) and lowering its price. Yeah, claw sucks, don't use it.
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Dethis Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. Never seen the jagerbomber videos i take it? although long range intys will keep you at range this setup will bbq most other intys 1v1. look it up watch the video if you dont believe me :P that was about 1 year ago, and the player who did it sold his chracter and bought a gallente character cause minmatar suck From Dusk till Dawn
zoturi Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:33:00 - [14] jagerbomb setup still rocks tho
Dethis Caldari Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:34:00 - [15] Originally by: zoturi jagerbomb setup still rocks tho -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Laythun Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Xantina Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Then we Minmatar do not have a ceptor that is capable of fighting 1 v 1 with other ceptors. If I drop the scram for a web my targets will just warp off. And the Stileto can be killed by a Rifter so I am not using that. Depends how you set up your Stiletto :) the average Rifter pilot don't fit ecm and needs to get in range for his ACs :) you make me sick. ecm on a ceptor makes baby Jesus cry *See You In Space Cowboy*
Bazman Caldari The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:40:00 - [17] 2 Midslots = Useless, no matter the ship, claw might be more successful out of all the two slotters, but meh, Never lost a Taranis to a Claw, infact, I've never lost much at all to Claws ----- Sig removed, maximum allowed image dimensions are 400x120 and maximum allowed size is 24,000 bytes. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -wystler Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a
Xantina Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Laythun you make me sick. ecm on a ceptor makes baby Jesus cry With our artillery sucking as it does, us Minmatar need to use every dirty trick in the book :)
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Bazman 2 Midslots = Useless, no matter the ship, claw might be more successful out of all the two slotters, but meh, Never lost a Taranis to a Claw, infact, I've never lost much at all to Claws I have never lost a Claw against a Taranis, and I would guesstimate i have killed 10-15 Taranises in my 150mm Claws. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Bazman Caldari The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:08:00 - [20] I guess you use an evil Kinetic hardened 400mm plate setup or something then :P I'd probably die to that if I engaged it, but then again, I'm a dirty bastard and use ECM drones alot. My point is, 2 Midslots for ships designed for tackling large targets and destroying small ones is horrible. Med slots ftw :p ----- Sig removed, maximum allowed image dimensions are 400x120 and maximum allowed size is 24,000 bytes. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -wystler Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:16:00 - [21] I thought all Claws fitted 400 rolled and kinetic t2 [semi-serious] But yea i agree, 2 meds is crap and dangerous for your health and i definatly prefer crow or ranis the past 6 months so i can engage more types of targets, 3 meds ftw :9 ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:18:00 - [22] It doesnt need a web. You can fit one if you want, it doesnt hurt either. Originally by: Serzos Welcome to EVE. Please select a difficulty Easy Medium Hard Minmatar Scrapheap Challenge!
Dai'mon Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:28:00 - [23] Edited by: Dai''mon on 14/08/2006 12:28:25 Originally by: dabster I thought all Claws fitted 400 rolled and kinetic t2 [semi-serious] But yea i agree, 2 meds is crap and dangerous for your health and i definatly prefer crow or ranis the past 6 months so i can engage more types of targets, 3 meds ftw :9 I bought a claw a while back when I couldn't get a taranis for a decent price. Since then I haven't gone back. I think I'd really struggle with a ceptor without 4 lo slots :P It doesn't push out the same damage as a ranis but it can take one hell of a beating.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:08:00 - [24] if the other guy decides to attack your claw then the webbie claw will wtfpwn him before he realizes that you dont have a scram
Kal'Kalagan Takahashi Syndicate Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:15:00 - [25] Thanks for your responses here. Whats a "Jagerbomber" and who is this character who used it? What did he do to recieve suck high acclaim? Aslo the guy who said he has killed multiple Taranis in a Claw - what is you mid slot configuration?
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Hast if the other guy decides to attack your claw then the webbie claw will wtfpwn him before he realizes that you dont have a scram Indeed. Ppl are very surprised to see the killmails.... umm... I was webbed.... by an ares... omg I wasn't scrambled?!
Locke Ateid Minmatar Outrider Fleet Command	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:46:00 - [27] 280mm fitted Claws are the bane to other ceptors. Not really useful against anything else, but they do a fine job at fine as an anti-ceptor role. They're just so hard to fit due to CPU limitations.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:02:00 - [28] Edited by: dabster on 14/08/2006 17:02:57 Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Thanks for your responses here. Whats a "Jagerbomber" and who is this character who used it? What did he do to recieve suck high acclaim? Aslo the guy who said he has killed multiple Taranis in a Claw - what is you mid slot configuration? The basics of a Jaegerbomber is web+scrambler, you get a badass tank with it obviously since you go no mwd. edit; the character was 'Drunkeone' btw, he became known for it because he made some cool videos with it. I killed the many ranises^^ I used web for the first year or so of flying Claw but got bored with it so i usually run a 7.5km. Its trickier to fight a rains lately though cause 125mm ranises are more common than 1+ year ago. Which means he can dictate the range, a blaster-ranis wants to be up stroking your hull so thats no problem, you dont need a web for trackings sake like stated somewhere up there^, thats just *******s. On the other hand if you realise somebody is using range-guns and wants to stay out of webrange it means you wont hit him even with barrage. You just need to realise this quickly enough to be able to run away and jump/dock or whatever ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Maya Rkell Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:09:00 - [29] Originally by: LUKEC Yes you need web. That qualifies crusader and claw as one of the useless. Funny, I for one have managed to kill AF's solo and with a web. Let alone other inties.

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