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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:00:00 -
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It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So..
Do Care Bears Exist ?
In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.
Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6780
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:03:00 -
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They were upgraded to Nullbears.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
240
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:05:00 -
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Personally, I use the word whenever ever I get players raging at me, insulting me, swearing, stuff like that. They clearly care about the game too much, if they are getting that emotional, and I consider that kind of thing unhealthy.
Now I could stoop to their level and do it back, but that will probably get me banned, so I just call them a carebear instead. As for typical "carebear" activities, I do that stuff too, despite being an outlaw  |
David Therman
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:10:00 -
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Yes. There was an occasion not long ago where someone in my corp finally got up to Exhumers, and bought himself a Mack. A couple of days later, he promptly got ganked in it... when he posted the loss-mail, it was simply 2 strip-miner's, a couple of mining upgrades and, if I remember correctly, 1 adaptive field. No rigs, no shield extenders, on a Mack. I felt like banging my head on the wall... which I did, when I found out he'd posted a thread on here (GD, of all places) about "miners not having enough protection". And this was someone who has been active for a few months at the very least.
I'd say that fits the definition of a "care-bear".
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10849
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:13:00 -
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Most people have no clue of the definition of a carebear.
There are several types of bears who share characteristics.
There's the carebear, which is the broad term ...
The fleetbear ... who whines about the lack of FCs.
The nullbear ... who whines about afk cloakers.
The gankbear ... like CODE people.
They're all carebears, simply because they're either whiny, cowards or both.
They run big mouths, but in the end have nothing to actually show off,
while constantly trying to derail from this very fact.
You can find them easily, because they can not stop talking like big men.
Then you make them hide in station all day, because they can not realistically
harm you in any way ... and they will smack even more, because it shows them
how weak they actually are.
And in case you DO get a hold of them and kill their ships ...
... you can expect even more.
At that point one should feel highly encouraged to post the story in C&P ...
... to make everyone aware of this sad little kid.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Hicksimus
Torgue
362
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:14:00 -
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I thought it was pretty obvious that cartoon bears shooting magical powers from their tummies didn't exist but some people have romantic dinners with pillows so here I go.
Care Bears do not exist, if you do suspect that a bear is talking to you please run away, especially if it is swearing at you about spaceships.
Do you have it? |
Marsha Mallow
1611
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:21:00 -
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Most people grind for ISK at some point, somehow. The difference between players and carebears is the degree to which they accept there are risks.
People playing purely to farm/grind (I've always found 'grinder' a better term) seem to think they play in a vacuum and have the right to pump out ISK unmolested because they weren't bothering anyone. And they are nice. And highsec is meant to be safe because it's for noobs and wimps, yada yada. Interrupt their grinding though and they turn into scarebears, which always makes me wonder. Who are the real 'sociopaths' in the equation?
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5720
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:38:00 -
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Carebearing is a state of being in eve terms rather than a strict definition, General traits would be ,
risk aversion (not management),
sperging allover [forums/local/private chat/public chat] whenever their preconceived notions about eve are altered by eve's actual nature.
fixation on isk/associated stuff .
General difficulty to disassociate emotional value responses from digital actions.
an unwillingness to adapt, instead pleading to the authority (ccp) to "fix".
you see this from all corners at some point.
=]I[= |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6448
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:42:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Most people have no clue of the definition of a carebear.
There are several types of bears who share characteristics.
There's the carebear, which is the broad term ...
The fleetbear ... who whines about the lack of FCs.
The nullbear ... who whines about afk cloakers.
The gankbear ... like CODE people.
They're all carebears, simply because they're either whiny, cowards or both.
They run big mouths, but in the end have nothing to actually show off,
while constantly trying to derail from this very fact.
You can find them easily, because they can not stop talking like big men.
Then you make them hide in station all day, because they can not realistically
harm you in any way ... and they will smack even more, because it shows them
how weak they actually are.
And in case you DO get a hold of them and kill their ships ...
... you can expect even more.
At that point one should feel highly encouraged to post the story in C&P ...
... to make everyone aware of this sad little kid.
There's also F1bears
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5720
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:44:00 -
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The rarely seen and elusive "awarebear".
=]I[= |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10851
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:48:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:There's also F1bears
And elitepvpbears
and hotdropbears
Let me add wreckingbears and apexforcebears to that
F1bears = fleetbears
elitepvpbears = CODE wannabees.
but hey, hotdropbears and the other two you've mentioned are new to me!
Please elaborate! :D
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6448
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:52:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:There's also F1bears
And elitepvpbears
and hotdropbears
Let me add wreckingbears and apexforcebears to that F1bears = fleetbears elitepvpbears = CODE wannabees. but hey, hotdropbears and the other two you've mentioned are new to me! Please elaborate! :D
Er no, we don't worry about lack of FCs.
And elitepvpbears is probably referring more to people who loved using titans to doomsday frigate roams and whatnot.
You haven't heard of a wreckingball or an apexforce?
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10851
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:00:00 -
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Ah I put the fleetbears into the F1 category,
because that's all they do ... but I guess you lack no FCs, no. %)
I've heard of the WreckingBall, but no idea about apexforce, no.
WreckingBall was way too present on the forums,
through all that whining,
to be missalbe.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
240
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:13:00 -
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Nobody mentioned forumwarriorbears yet. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
1501
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:15:00 -
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A carebear (imo) is someone who shuns away from the idea of others being able to have a negative impact or almost any affect at all, towards them.
There is no single gameplay that makes you a carebear, but some activities do have a higher percentage of them. |
Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:21:00 -
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It's not really about what you do in game. It's more about the attitude of some and their belief they should be able to play without interference. They also try to attach morals, to game play they dislike. Yes, we have plenty of those types in-game.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10054
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:42:00 -
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Mag's wrote:It's not really about what you do in game. It's more about the attitude of some and their belief they should be able to play without interference. They also try to attach morals, to game play they dislike. Yes, we have plenty of those types in-game.
This. Carebear is not an in game action, it's a state of mind.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:13:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So what you are all saying is that isn't a wildly untrue guess ?
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Brochan McLeod
Frigateer
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:23:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So..
Do Care Bears Exist ?
In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.
Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
All activities in EvE seem connected. So when miners mine and producers produce its all so it can be blown up by the ones that love to... blow stuff up.
The big problem is that different-minded groups of people are naturally unable to peacefully co-excist.... we are just unable... period! Not in RL and not in a stupid game... very sad indeed.
Its been like that since the dawn of humanity and its going to be like that till we lose the war-gene and learn to peacefully share the world...as in probably never!
Maybe argueing about trivial stuff (like this game) and slaughtering eachother's avatars in a pixelated reality is a solution?
And i prefer to do as much ingame as possible, so long as i dont have to break someones toys...
So yeah.... i might be a carebear 
Even the nicest person's patience
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á has a limit..... |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:36:00 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
All activities in EvE seem connected. So when miners mine and producers produce its all so it can be blown up by the ones that love to... blow stuff up.
I was wondering if anyone knew to what extent trade goods exist ? everything seems to have a market value though not all things have an in game use. I'm also not sure that all market items can be manufactured.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10857
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:43:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Brochan McLeod wrote:
All activities in EvE seem connected. So when miners mine and producers produce its all so it can be blown up by the ones that love to... blow stuff up.
I was wondering if anyone knew to what extent trade goods exist ? everything seems to have a market value though not all things have an in game use. I'm also not sure that all market items can be manufactured.
And here we have another great example why this guy should be banned.
He has stopped creating trollthreads in the new players area of the forums ...
... and now comes here to keep doing the same **** he has done there.
The only reason why he stopped there ...
... is because he is scared of the banhammer.
Now he comes here and what does he do? Create bullshit threads ...
... and does not really care about the topic at all.
All he wants is that people talk ...
... for his own amusement.
I'm still waiting for my petition to be looked at, btw.
Thank you for providing me with even more evidence that they should just remove you.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Tikitina
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
183
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:43:00 -
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I say they are all Evebears.
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Vyl Vit
853
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:48:00 -
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I'm an apathetic carebear.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:06:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
All he wants is that people talk ...
... for his own amusement.
.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
306
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:13:00 -
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The blue doughnut. They all treaty'd everyone else, and no one will fight.
They are just enjoying licking each others bung. |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:31:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So..
Do Care Bears Exist ?
In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.
Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
Yes, they exist. I've seen the movies. The horrors of my traumatized childhood... |
Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:46:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
an unwillingness to adapt, instead pleading to the authority (ccp) to "fix".
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Some parts of the game seem a little odd, probably why I bring them up on the forum.
Sometimes I can't see how parts of it ever work.
Sometimes it is because of the ingenuity of players make it work
Sometimes it is because it is a tenuous loophole
But this is all a different topic, I'm on about the market and whether or not there is some reason why the Universe at large does not trade with capsuleers other than because it creates a nice little closed market ?
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
Not for Girls
As for Distribution |
Korsiri
Epilogue Enterprises
115
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Posted - 2014.10.13 00:56:00 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:
Yes, they exist. I've seen the movies. The horrors of my traumatized childhood...
Unfortunately.
Be glad you don't have to still sometimes watch them.
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:11:00 -
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A 'carebear' is just a pejorative derived from this IP and is used to label anyone who isn't actively involved in blowing stuff up.
There isn't an actual definition because people will throw it around for pretty much any non-shooting pilot or activity. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:18:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:A 'carebear' is just a pejorative derived from this IP and is used to label anyone who isn't actively involved in blowing stuff up. There isn't an actual definition because people will throw it around for pretty much any non-shooting pilot or activity.
It's a bit like the real world, no one will admit to knowing what one is.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment.
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