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Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 11:36:00 -
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Most ratters don't bother fighting back and dock up or leave the system instead so if you do it on a grand scale it does indeed have an impact.
If you perma camp all the good ratting systems in a region and have the ability to drop on targets that rat anyways you can be a huge pain in the ass. The problem is that you need enough people willing to have an cloaky alt sitting in system most of the time or to go out and activly hunt. Another big problem is the remoteness of some regions where you on the one hand have to fly your alt trough god knows how many gates to get there and on the other hand have to take multiple mids to bridge there to drop on someone.
You can see this very nice when you compare the NPC kills for the last 24h in for example delve where you have NPC space, close proximity to low sec and AFAIK pizza operating there and cobalt edge where you have no NPC space and no proximity to low sec.
Another great example is if you compare the amount of renters in
PBLRD: 3500
NA: 14000
BOT: 11000
The eastern regions are far more remote and thus more appealing to renters.
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Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 12:24:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I do remember people explaining why renting became a thing and I hope that those people in the know will share their knowledge in here.
Technetium nerfs.
Goons and PL where the major tech holders in new Eden and after it got nerfed both needed a new (old) way to earn a shitton of isk every month with the least effort possible.
Luckily there seems to be a neverending flow of carebears that find high sec to risky to perma rat all day and are willing to pay a rent for their space every month so the large renter empires where born. |
Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 13:03:00 -
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What Aralyn said. Also if you join a Null sec ally instead of renting from it you normaly have to integrate somewho into it to not be kicked again. You maybe have to join Fleets, have to talk to people or post on their forums and so on. All the turbo jews are not interested in something like this. They just want to rat all day and watch the number on their wallet go up.
Jacob Holland wrote:I believe renting goes back further than that...
Didn't BoB rent out some of their space?
Yes, renting is nothing new but its the first time that its in such a grand scale where at least half of the player owned sov is rented out.
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Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 13:27:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
Of every big sov holding alliance there must be people who like to rat. These people could be set up
to farm anoms and deliver parts of the income to the alliances ... which would be bigger income than
from actual renters, no?
Yes they allready do through taxes, at least in most alliances. I don't now if GSF or PL have general taxes set up. But the thing is alliance members don't like high taxes because if they go through the hassle of ratting they want to keep the most part of the isk for themself otherwise no one would rat.
Renters on the other hand are only allowed in thier rented space because they pay isk for it and they don't seem to mind paying a lot of isk because their only purpose in the game seems to be earning isk anyways.
So you can milk out your renters but you usually can't milk out your alliance members.
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Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:49:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
Can you, or someone else, tell me more about Pasta, what they do and their impact?
Awoxing guarantees citizenship 
Please don't tell me you don't know wheniaminspace
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Ka'Narlist
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Posted - 2014.10.15 16:19:00 -
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Barton Breau wrote:Ka'Narlist wrote:All the turbo jews are not interested in something like this.
Seems that parts of the lingo are very very old...
Yes it is and quite hard to get rid of
But there is no offense intended to actual jewish people |
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Posted - 2014.10.16 07:18:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
As Pasta has been mentioned as first one,
Pasta is a group primaerily operating out of delve npc space with the intention of making the life of who ever lives in delve as miserable as possible.
I'm not sure about their beginnings but a lot of them previously where in test and a favorite term of them is "Awoxing guarantees citizenship" which means if you awoxed an allymate for them you where allowed to join them.
They where specialized in small or solo combat but if you look at their killboard you'll see that they also don't shy away from fielding big toys.
While we where living in delve they would roam, hotdrop, or gatecamp the **** out of unexpecting ratters and while we where deployed somewhere else they would start grabbing money moons which we then had to take back from them. They also like bombing fleets very much.
Despite all this there was never any hate between us and they even helped us on special occasions.
One of their most famous pilots is wheniaminspace who can be seen on a lot of killmails from poor ratters with his cloaky sabre and is possibly one of the best bomber FCs in eve (but I only once had the pleasure of him FCing a bomber fleet I was in).
Nowadays they do a lot of stuff together with Black Legion I think. |
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Posted - 2014.10.20 07:51:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:About sov though, at least we just ~naturally~ have fatigue (in real life) mechanics for shooting structures.
One would think so, but I someone complained in the thread about the sov structure hp rebalance that it wouldn't make any sense to lower their ehp because its allready too easy to grind them down in bombers..lol
Solecist Project wrote:I consider joining Pasta if the CEO of Love Squad approves ...
tell them I recruited you, maybe I get a commission |
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