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Chuck Marlow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:06:18 -
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Looking to return to carebearing combat after some time doing wormhole exploration, but I need a good ship for running level 3 missions (highest my standings will allow right now.)
I've got T2 ready shield and missile skills (used to use the Drake battlecruiser before they rebalanced it) but I can use T1 modules for all weapon types and I have all the T1 battleships unlocked.
Looking to do level 4 missions eventually and maybe put something together for wormhole PvE once I farm more ISK in missions. Any ship/fits that fit that description? |
voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
283
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:39:02 -
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If you are going to do missions in high sec you might as well do the most profitable ones, so either Sisters of Eve or Thukker.
Thukker don't have so many agents so i would probably go SoE as you have alot more choice. Drake isn't what it use to be but it still does ok in level 3s unless you can use a Cerb or Ishtar or other favoured HAC or T3. There is a L3 agent for SoE in Simela (I think) and there are several l4 SoE agents now (a couple more got added recently).
After than, you could always go the normal Caldari route as you mentioned shield and missile skills, Raven and CNR, tho I personally like the Typhoon with T2 sentries, it's on a par or maybe even better than a CNR. |
Paranoid Loyd
2365
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:55:40 -
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Super crap skills:
Drake
Crap skills:
RHML Raven fit with warp speed rigs
Good skills:
Machariel
Cynabal
Gila
HAC
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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Chuck Marlow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:26:55 -
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Checked my assets, turns out I do have a Cynabal but the tactical overview only shows a 16km falloff range for the autocannons. Is that good or bad as numbers go? I have a feeling I probably haven't trained the right skills for it.
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Daphne Organa Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:31:08 -
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i have chosen a drake which is a good ship for level 3 with hobgobelin drones, heavy launcher 2
It is very good |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
350
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Posted - 2014.10.18 23:17:38 -
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Cynabal would work good, 425's should get you out to about 20k.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
32344
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Posted - 2014.10.19 00:17:12 -
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Hello,
For level 3 missions a Battlecruiser would be the best all around ship to use. As a Minmatar I used a Hurricane - Arty/Hvy Missile, passive shield tank/active resists.
Eve-Survival : Mission Reports provides very good intel for the Agents mission briefing, especially the player comments listed at the bottom of the mission report page. You should do fine, just fit specific tank for the mission and watch the triggers.
Good luck.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t
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stoicfaux
5334
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:42:16 -
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 Mach is good. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345580
Edit: think cruiser speed and battleship firepower.
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Oxide Ammar
173
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Posted - 2014.10.19 13:25:55 -
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Legion or Tengu , They can melts anything in lvl 3.
Lady Areola Fappington: -áSolo PVP isn't dead!-á You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1153
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Posted - 2014.10.21 02:10:46 -
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In battlecruisers the Prophecy can also handle IIIs and easier IVs well.
Though if you have T1 battleships trained then a sentry Dominix will get into most IVs and will clear them very quickly even with generic T1 drones. |
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Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production
Headshot Gaming
103
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:16:36 -
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I personally perfer Gun/Gun like (sentry drones) ships for lvl3s.
They have a lot of smaller ships and you don't want to ahve to count your volleys or wait for drones to fly around. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1153
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Posted - 2014.10.22 00:40:43 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:I personally perfer Gun/Gun like (sentry drones) ships for lvl3s.
They have a lot of smaller ships and you don't want to ahve to count your volleys or wait for drones to fly around.
Well you can blitz level IIIs pretty well in a RHML Rattlesnake, your geckos are close to indestructible and the rapid heavies smack everything down in a hurry - but yeah you probably spend more on faction heavy missiles than you make isk-wise.
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Ryac Sampaio
Divine Reform
The Explicit Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:09:41 -
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I've had a lot of success using an Ishtar ...
I use an Ishtar with the following fit:
Tech 2 Blasters with T2 or Faction ammo and a web for any ships that get close.
A couple of T2 Omnidirectional Tracking Links, T2 Cap Recharger and an MWD.
Low slots fitted with DC2, EANM2, T2 Armour Rep & 2x T2 Drone Damage Amplifiers.
This fit with a full flight of Garde II's I find that I can easily tank most missions stationary while my drones blast the crap out of everything and if in doubt, kite with the MWD.
Hope this helps!!
Ryac. |
Voxinian
74
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:30:56 -
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Orthrus with RLML is nice for shredding L3's. Or fit a BS like a SNI with RHML and painters and get the job just as quickly done. Also doing it with a BS you can have one omni tank without having to bother to refit for different missions. |
Voxinian
74
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:32:20 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:[quote=Andrew Indy] but yeah you probably spend more on faction heavy missiles than you make isk-wise.
Faction ammo for PvE? Thats a fine waste of ISK's. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2140
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Posted - 2014.10.23 12:50:16 -
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personally, i'm a fan of the navy brutix. up to 700dps with medium rails is not too shabby and the align and warp speeds are well inside what i feel is appropriate for lvl3s.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings." -MXZF
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2140
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Posted - 2014.10.23 12:52:31 -
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Voxinian wrote:Faction ammo for PvE? Thats a fine waste of ISK's.
it can be worth it when you use artillery or (tachyon) beam lasers. also, people run lvl3s for standings quite a lot, so ISK is not always the only factor.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings." -MXZF
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Nizar Ambraelle
DIY Ventures
2
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Posted - 2014.10.23 16:28:23 -
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I'm just a 4 million SP noob but I've been doing lvl 3 missions the past few days in a Navy Vexor with 5x Navy Ogres, 5x Navy Hammerheads and 5x Navy Hobgoblins. I switch the drones around depending on what I'm fighting, but it seems the ogres often handle the frigates pretty well (I did put two omnidirectional tracking links on it, one with a tracking script).
I seem to be doing fine, and the Ogres don't take too long to kill everything. I don't have a comparison though. But I love my Navy Vexor and my drones.
Might switch the navy drones out for regular ones, as they are kind of expensive to replace. (I've had to replace two or three Ogres so far). |
Argent Rotineque
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.10.23 16:54:18 -
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Voxinian wrote:Faction ammo for PvE? Thats a fine waste of ISK's.
If one's time is limited, the increased clear speed faction ammo can allow, may more than offset the increased cost of the faction ammo. Especially if the increased damage reduces the number of volleys meaningfully to kill a larger ship--say with regular artillery it takes 6 and faction only requires 5 due to less time for the target to rep. For example if one made 20 million isk in two hours running normal ammo, but it's possible that in the same time they could made 25 million isk with 1.5 million worth of faction ammo. |
Luca Lure
Obertura
31
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:50:34 -
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I used a Stabber Fleet Issue. Handles everything L3 and is fast.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.10.23 23:51:42 -
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Voxinian wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Andrew Indy wrote: but yeah you probably spend more on faction heavy missiles than you make isk-wise.
Faction ammo for PvE? Thats a fine waste of ISK's.
meh ... ISK is never an issue if you are blitzing for LP.
Time is of the essence however. You need to rotate missions as quickly as possible to keep the LP coming in.
A good sisters level IV mission returns 20 mill just in LP alone so a few mill extra for CN missiles is neither here nor there. Probably a bit less viable in IIIs but really if your mission running in a 1600 DPS Rattlesnake you have bulk ISK coming in anyway.
There is a limit to how much bling you can throw at a mission ship without being a loot pinata but CN cruises and heavies are not going to attract that much unwanted attention.
Nizar Ambraelle wrote:I'm just a 4 million SP noob but I've been doing lvl 3 missions the past few days in a Navy Vexor with 5x Navy Ogres, 5x Navy Hammerheads and 5x Navy Hobgoblins. I switch the drones around depending on what I'm fighting, but it seems the ogres often handle the frigates pretty well (I did put two omnidirectional tracking links on it, one with a tracking script).
I seem to be doing fine, and the Ogres don't take too long to kill everything. I don't have a comparison though. But I love my Navy Vexor and my drones.
Might switch the navy drones out for regular ones, as they are kind of expensive to replace. (I've had to replace two or three Ogres so far).
I ran a generic Vexor with a passive/buffer shield tank for a while and it was kind of unbreakable in PvE could soak up silly amounts of DPS. For drones I ran Bouncers and Gecko's. Just do not send the Gecko out too far or they die. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
719
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Posted - 2014.10.24 04:51:32 -
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an 800mm ac mach with 4 gyros and a t2 rof rig is firing 7x 1.2k isk RF projectiles every 2.96288 sec according to eft. I'll just use this as it is pretty much worst case.
so if you just sat there shooting ammo at nothing it would cost you 10.2mil per hour. In reality I would assume you are shooting less than half the time, and a 15% dps increase probably results in a pretty decent mission completion time reduction.
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn
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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
6
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Posted - 2014.10.24 07:19:36 -
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Any battlecruiser can do and very cheap
Flying in myrmidon with 4 sentries. They melt everything very fast |
stoicfaux
5341
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Posted - 2014.10.24 12:42:49 -
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The Ishtar/Vexor/Droneboats are "bad", IME. Sentry drones take too long to target things, they fire as a group so you lose time/DPS to overkill, sentry drones limit your mobility, and other drones don't fly as fast as the Mach's AC rounds.
Ishtar 50M/hour: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=286755 versus ~80M/hour in Mach (as per link in my previous post.)
Seriously, it got to the point that I rarely released the Mach's sentry drones because the sentries were so inefficient and took too much micromanagement.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
496
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:37:25 -
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Pimped out Assault Frigate. |
Tixx Enaka
I Like Raccoons
6
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Posted - 2014.10.25 01:35:45 -
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I know bigger is often faster but to get started a harpy or worm work surprisingly fast for me.
Speed rig for drones and they aren't that slow. Seen youtubes with slower heavy missiles (it seems). No ammo cost, seriously I don't even have missile skills for the worm, 243 dps frig align/warp speeds. Hardly ever gets half shields. Gila is looking smexy.
Harpy is fun as well. Bomb around and point blank face melt. Slower by a large margin though. |
Hendr1x
Electric Lady Land
0
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:50:44 -
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Chuck Marlow wrote:Looking to return to carebearing combat after some time doing wormhole exploration, but I need a good ship for running level 3 missions (highest my standings will allow right now.)
I've got T2 ready shield and missile skills (used to use the Drake battlecruiser before they rebalanced it) but I can use T1 modules for all weapon types and I have all the T1 battleships unlocked.
Looking to do level 4 missions eventually and maybe put something together for wormhole PvE once I farm more ISK in missions. Any ship/fits that fit that description?
Sacrilege duel armor rep
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Luwc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.10.27 07:46:06 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Super crap skills:
Drake
Crap skills:
RHML Raven fit with warp speed rigs
Good skills:
Machariel
Cynabal
Gila
HAC
ISHTAR
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Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
476
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:47:17 -
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Mr Mac wrote:Any battlecruiser can do and very cheap
Flying in myrmidon with 4 sentries. They melt everything very fast
Also. Arty Myrmidon with sentries and or gecko.
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