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Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.20 02:46:00 -
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Gunner GzR wrote:Hello i am with the corp Anomalous Existence in the alliance Low Class
We have been in w space since they started and have a lot of knowledge to offer.
We are looking to help new corps and pilots move into Wormhole space
If you need help or have question please contact me or join the channel
Low-Class
We Will Answer your question and offer assistance if we can
Would love to see new pilots and corps get into w space and fall in love with it as we have.
Wormholes are a exciting place to live and can be very profitable . There is no local and requires a interesting set of mechanics. So please join us in w space and have fun with the game
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're the dumbest dumbshit I've ever met, I seriously doubt you have "a lot of knowledge to offer." TOP KEK |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.20 04:16:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:How's poaching WH corps working out, Teen?
What? |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.20 15:37:00 -
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Nash MacAllister wrote:Angsty Teenager wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're the dumbest dumbshit I've ever met, I seriously doubt you have "a lot of knowledge to offer." TOP KEK
This guy right here is everything we are not, and it makes me very happy to say that. Best of luck with the shoelaces, hoping you still have time for some sort of witty (in your own mind) reply. 
It's not a witty reply, it's the truth. Fact is that its people like you and gunner who have wormholes into the place they are right now. People who are risk averse and unwilling to take fights where they might lose are the problem. These people are everywhere, but the problem is exasperates in wspace because of the lack of content in the first place.
Secondly, the other more "meta" problem that you ALL have is that you have this bullshit sense of comradery--you don't hate anybody enough. You think this is a good thing but in reality it's a terrible thing because content in this game is best born through some sort of overarching campaign, not through the urge for "gudfites" because that m and you pass up all of the bad ones which is a loss of content--even bad fights can be fun for you if your goal is not to destroy your enemy at all cost. All of you focus too much on trying to maintain people in wspace through avoiding evictions, but all it means is that you are all just a bunch of blabbers and cowards when it comes to one of your own being threatened--see blood Union vs disavowed and what happened there,
Wspace needs more dividing content and players who are willing to dislike and hate each other and through that drive content. The apathy of current WH space corps is why there is no content. They all know they are safe because they are all friends. This also means the only content is "war game style content"
Also I think gunner is a dumb shot because in my time with him in corp he was the most inadequate fc, director, and player I've ever seen. I think his advice will surely lead new players astray. That's my opinion and I'm sharing it, come at me bro. |
Angsty Teenager
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:58:00 -
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Making assumptions based on alliance is not a good argument.
I'm not out of touch, I'm just stating the obvious--you don't have content because there is no conflict driver--this has historically been diagreements between parties, you're all just one blue donut in wspace playing war games. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:19:00 -
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Yes, evictions between smaller entities than the blobfest it currently is. On top of current content. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:38:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:I'll take these misconceptions over null-blocs any day.
If only there were a whole group of players that aren't involved in null blocs or blue donuts--oh wait their are-- any non sov holding lowsec alliance. I'd argue the WH donut is worse than the nullsec donut. At least the nullsec donut can fight outside of the donut easily--whereas there are no major WH pvp groups that aren't in your circle jerk donut to fight. |
Angsty Teenager
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:42:00 -
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NO
U
That's your arguement right now, nice job. No wonder WHs suck, your stupidity is confusing CCPs designers |
Angsty Teenager
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.21 01:55:00 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:The fact that our pubescent associate thinks that there is a blue donut displays his lack of understanding. Couple that with his schoolyard retorts and you end up in a position where he's probably best just ignored until we can get an ISD in here to delete his ideological diarrhea.
On the original topic: Anyone who's willing to help newbros will receive the full support of myself and my corp. I have and continue to ask for and receive guidance from others in this game. This transfer of knowledge is invaluable and helps to build the WH community as a whole.
I hope that this project is successful and we get more active PVP entities in WH space.
There is a blue donut, regardless of whether you deny it or not. It's exacerbated by the fact that your large C5/C6 corps just hoover up everybody because you're all scared of fighting in small gangs.
You realize you would have WAY MORE active pvp entities in w-space if you just stopped hugging each other like scared little girls in your home wormhole and spread out your players over many smaller corps living in the same area?
You want to win, nothing wrong with that, but asking for new people to come in at the same time while you're content to sit twiddling your thumbs waiting for somebody to find a group of escalation farmers so you can call all of w-space to come gank is a hoot and a holler indeed.
Also my main point in this thread was that Gunner GzR is dumb and shouldn't be in charge of teaching anybody anything, not the sad state of affairs of w-space which is already apparent to anybody with a brain. |
Angsty Teenager
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.21 02:50:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:That's some mad bitter Suyer.
In every area of space, content creators are at a premium, and in W-Space there's not much low hanging content for people to grab if one of the content creators isn't around, so people tend to just log off, exacerbating the issue. PL itself does this exact same thing. Hoards FCs, planners, content creators, so that the strain isn't so great on a few and so that someone is always around to make things happen. So why did you go join them? This problem isn't unique to W-Space, it's just within it's own context.
Exactly, the problem is that people in w-space are unwilling to become content creators, and their aren't enough currently. The problem is the people in w-space. The changes to w-space making it less favorable compared to other space doesn't help either, but we're not discussing that--I think we can all agree CCP needs to focus on making w-space a more attractive part of eve.
Also what does my corp/alliance have to do with this? I'm not making the claim that PL is better than all, some, or any wormhole corps. Also stereotyping is bad m8 but I'll allow it because it do it as well  ; just because I joined PL doesn't mean PL is representative of myself nor myself representative of PL. You are right in some sense--if I was following what my previous statements said to the letter, I wouldn't be in PL, I'd be trying to start a small pvp corp. But conveniently, k-space has plenty of pvp opportunity without having to do this, so there is no need. W-space is a different story. As you said, "there's not much low hanging fruit".
All I'm trying to say is that if you want more low hanging fruit, you have to change the way the wormhole meta operates, barring favorable changes by CCP.
(Also I got a free super when I joined PL, u mad lol?) |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 03:50:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:This is a game, after all, so not many people are willing to put in what it takes to run a successful corp in EVE, not to mention when you enlist the help of directors and such there's the whole ~trust~ thing. Others, like myself, don't have the time. I've thought many times about making my own corp, but it'll failscade when I'd rather go drink at a bar than log in to kill those ratters someone tackled.
As for you and being in PL, it was solely to point out that skilled groups collecting content creators isn't a unique W-Space issue and we're all guilty of taking the easier path of joining groups that don't require us to carry all the weight sometimes. I know who you are and that you know your **** in W-Space as a player. Also, a free super is a pretty good reason, lol.
Anyway, this is the best initiative someone's come up with so far to try and encourage growth so if I can't start up a corp, I'll at least try to help others do it and support this in the process.
You should be trying to encourage growth internally as well. That's my problem with the meta in w-space. There is no heavy conflict driver between large groups so there is no need for people to step and do stuff--instead they can just wait around for somebody with initiative to come along. Leadership is born out of necessity.
You actually have to get your corp to care about a conflict for this to happen--thats why the current wormhole circlejerk is such a joke, all fights between major groups are irrelevant because there is no major driver behind them. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:12:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:It's tough to have a major conflict driver when we're not competing for resources or space. Sometimes space is fought over, though. Mostly, we're fighting just to fight.
And that's why I said you have to hate somebody in wormhole space. Feud can be a strong conflict driver. You're currently all up in each others pants nice and cozy though. That's the problem. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:45:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Angsty Teenager wrote:Hidden Fremen wrote:It's tough to have a major conflict driver when we're not competing for resources or space. Sometimes space is fought over, though. Mostly, we're fighting just to fight. And that's why I said you have to hate somebody in wormhole space. Feud can be a strong conflict driver. You're currently all up in each others pants nice and cozy though. That's the problem. And that's why I said you're out of touch. The difference between now and months ago is that people aren't raging about each other in forums anymore. There are feuds. One just erupted in form of an ADHC eviction. There'll be more. People are just being more tactful about them now.
I think you're out of touch. The fact is that AHDC got evicted because they weren't part of the circlejerk because they weren't even playing. If somebody tried to evict LZHX or whoever, the defending party would call everybody and everyone--and they would all come. That's the problem--it's impossible to have any meaningful wars in w-space because the be all end all--eviction--simply will not happen.
I don't know why everybody believe eviction is such a bad thing anyway, it's good for w-space, it forces people to either break up their corps, restructure and come back stronger, or gives room for new leadership and content creators to do new things. It shakes up the status quo and that allows for much more dynamic gameplay. People who actually want to play in wormholes won't leave, the people who don't will. That's fine.
Hilariously, as proof to this point, evreybody involved in the ADHC eviction had a good time according to their thread, though I think they're all just delusional. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:47:00 -
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Nash MacAllister wrote:Seriously, Angsty's blather gets left and my comment goes "missing". Lol. The offer stands to help new groups get established, no strings attached. Good to see the new helper channel as well. And again, Angsty's attitude is everything we are not, again, happy to be able to say that. Not a personal attack, rather a statement about perception and attitude of a larger entity. Every thread lately ends up the same crap so please be consistent, read the topic, and post appropriately. It is pretty clear what is "off topic' and needs attention thanks...
I am ON TOPIC thank you very much. I am educating new players on the problems of w-space. Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
Nash - have you considered that maybe my posts are the legitimate points and your posts are the blather? |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:58:00 -
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Adarnof wrote:Angsty Teenager wrote: If somebody tried to evict LZHX or whoever, the defending party would call everybody and everyone--and they would all come. That's the problem--it's impossible to have any meaningful wars in w-space because the be all end all--eviction--simply will not happen. And this differs from any other area of space how...? They'd show up for content which is severely lacking everywhere. This is no different than PL dropping by to say hi to literally any fight. You know what's great about not having feuds? You can be assailing one group today and tomorrow go on a joint roam with them and brawl with someone else.
The difference is that in other areas of space there are many more entities that aren't part of the circlejerk and plenty of content that can be found and had in other areas. The dynamics are completely different, there are contests for space, moons, money that can and do happen in k-space, but don't in w-space because as freeman said, there is no driving lack of space or money.
It's stupid to compare w-space to k-space, the systems are completely different. You are correct in saying that the same thing has happened in k-space as has happened in w-space--this is player nature. I'm not arguing this. But the fact is that while both are a joke, WH's are more of a joke because there is literally nothing else, while in k-space there are many many many more avenues to get pvp and content out of than for w-space. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 05:10:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:To each their own if you choose to stay in K-Space. It has it's appeals, Karl.
W-Space isn't strictly about W-Space conflict and you know this, Teen. I wish there were more W-Space content, but that doesn't mean that there's a total lack of content if it's not solely within W-Space. Null raiding has been quite popular for a long time and has attracted many long time roaming players and corps for the variety appeal.
Yes, and it just goes to show how little the w-space community actually cares about intra wormhole pvp. I would love if there was more content from CCP but I also think that if wormhole players stopped being so concerned about each other's opinion there could be a lot more content right now.
#breakupthebluebagel2014
edit: get it blue bagel instead of blue donut so people know it's w-space **** im clever thanks nan
Nash MacAllister wrote:Lol Got ya bud. In fact I made no arguments other than "this topic has gone way off track", but thanks for posting with an alt. How much ISK did Angsty pay for you? No wonder legitimate discussions or threads on the forums are f'ed...
I paid 420 bil, change your tune and I might pay you as well )) |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.21 05:20:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Angst does make good points, but sometimes they're made with so much anger that it just comes off as a troll or rage. Lazerhawks, at least, cares enough about w-space to do something about it, and I'm not just talking about forum posts and in game channels. We like to shake things up, too, and see how the community handles it.
Good, I look forward to seeing battlereports. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:24:32 -
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Gunner GzR wrote:Wormholes need to continue being the wild lands of eve..
Unbound
No rules
and free to explore,Fight and Die in
Man I just can't take things like this seriously. This is such a ******* pubbie thing to say, god you're a dweeb. |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:44:42 -
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Gunner GzR wrote:
It has become very clear that you have a personal Grudge with me via your comments and there for are not making clear opinions.
Get your head out of your butt and see w space for what it is A fun Place to live and play.
Your continued Slander of w space only makes you look uninformed and you Personal insults of myself only makes me laugh.So Please continue as i am comfortable with who i am where i fly and i have made lots of Friends and Enemies in w space and i am ok with that
I do not need to Make personal attacks on players i dislike in the Forums to make myself feel good..
I have good ideas and bad for w space and i like the input of tossing these around with other w space pilots so then they morph into great ideas that can be put forth to ccp..
So continue to show yourself as a uninformed Troll or take a Different path and make some informed comments..
No seriously do you not realize that you have zero grasp of the english language and how to write it? Capitalization doesn't have mid sentence of specific words like "God" as an example. Somehow despite the fact that you understand that sentences should start with capital letters, you don't understand that the letter "i" needs to be capitalized when referring to yourself, nor do you understand that words like "Make, Personal, Grudge, Different" don't need to given special capitalization mid sentence.
Like, I can't take you seriously when you come off as a deranged 2 year old just slapping away at the keyboard while his 10 year old brother looks over his should pressing the shift key sometimes.
While I'm at it (inb4 grammar ****), you also don't have any idea how to setup paragraphs, or how much spacing is needed between sentences, or how many periods are required at the end of a sentence either for that matter. You ended two sentences with ".." Is that supposed to be an ellipses? Or you do believe that you should be ending sentences that are trying to make a point with with a double period? Some of your sentences don't even have ANY punctuation at all.
EVEN IF you don't care what I think, and that's fair enough, the fact is that anybody reading your words, regardless of whether they agree with you or not is going to notice your carelessness. It's something you need to work on, and honestly I guess it's not super surprising, you always have been careless and dumb. You were a terrible director when I was in corp with you; you didn't understand basic math, even when it was explained in detail to you, you were a terrible FC (example, losing a fleet, including your own moros to 4 chimeras running a sleeper site), and your incompetence as a director directly led to my ability to steal the circa 40 bil when I left simply because you were too dumb to reset the poses back to pass-worded after setting them to corp access when fueling them. And then you got kicked shortly afterwards--no big surprise.
I point this out because I think trusting new players in w-space to your care is a terrible decision and that's why I think (among other reasons) that this initative is sort of a joke. Frankly I think that there isn't anybody dumber than you in w-space. Even dumb care bears are better because they know they're dumb--you think you're some kind of top dog who knows what he's doing when you really don't.
Btw, w-space is **** right now. FACT. Sorry to burst your bubble. |
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