No

OP needs larger brain.

This.

Just another Drake hate topic. Drakes are perfectly balanced for the battlecruiser role. And the SP needed to use them for max tank and DPS is EXTREME not moderate, EXTREME.

Drakes need not be touched at this time.

If you got killed by a drake it was because the pilot spent a great amount of time training to use it properly. Nerfing it would harm a great deal of players for no benefit.

Cane, Drake and Harb all need to lose a slot to bring them in line with the myrm and help balance them against Tier1.

How about no ?
The Harbinger is already weaker / less used than the Myrm.

A lot of people talk about battlecruiser balancing in pvp but in my opinion it's mostly a cost issue.

If you only look at hull costs there's a nice progression in cost from cruiser to battlecruiser to battleship.
A battlecruiser costs about 3 times as much as a cruiser and a battleship 2-3 times as much as a battlecruiser after insurance.

Then you start factoring in rigs and that Battlecruiser is not even twice as expensive more like 1,5 as a cruiser and the battleship becomes 6-7 times as expensive as the battlecruiser.

So nobobody flies cruisers because for just a bit more you have a boat that will perform a lot better and only people with large wallets fly battleships in pvp.

My solution to this is to give battlecruiser and then mostly the tech 2 type of battlecruiser a mix of large and medium rig slots.
Something like 2 large and 1 medium or 2 medium and one large. This way you would have the cost progression from cruiser-battlecruiser-battleship back and you see both more tech1 cruisers and tech1 battleships on the field.

The proposal is not going to solve the Cane/Drake issue and will make Tier1 BCs even more worthless than they already are.

Cane, Drake and Harb all need to lose a slot to bring them in line with the myrm and help balance them against Tier1.

I agree that the tier system has to go. I wouldn't go as far as locking in slot layout but I would say heavy experimentation on SIsi to find the right balance would be great.

I would not give the Ferox QUITE as much tank as the Drake. Maybe 8/10ths. Similar DPS output, lower but great passive tank (Or active with a bonus) and a third role. Maybe a bit of shield RRing?

But keep the medium rigs.

So... you want the tier system to go but you want to keep the Ferox outright inferior to the Drake.

-_-

-Liang

I want it to have a different role. I want to lose a small amount of tank to gain another role for it.

Because if you just make it similar to the drake with railguns it will still not get used because for PVE missiles rule. Give it another role bonus!

Again there is a reason. To give it another role which increases its versatility and thus its use.

Make it a drake with railguns and it will just continue to gather dust. Anyone who wants to use Hybrids for serious combat is likely going to bring a Naga anyway.

Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% shield resistance and 5% bonus kinetic damage of heavy missiles and heavy assault missiles per level

99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules.

Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range and 5% bonus to all Shield resistances per level

99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules.

Ok now not only do you want all the tank of a drake but you want to out DPS it. With a role the drake dosent even have.



Ferox has



600DPS with all the Drake tank? Unbalanced much? Yes the drake has an extremely long reach but that requires you to sacrifice DPS and tank to reach out into the extremely long ranges.

Tiericide was supposed to mean changes to lower tier craft to make them useable again. Not turn them into solopwnmobiles at close range.

only people with large wallets fly battleships in pvp.

The issue is if it can tank like the drake and out DPS it. The drake becomes nothing more than a PVE boat again.

If you want to out DPS instead of matching there should be a similar percentage cut to tank. Especially as a Drake cant snipe with slow ass Heavy missiles taking too long to reach the target.

Also with the Naga nobody in their right mind is going to cut a ton of the Drakes tank to get the moderate gain in DPS. While you can make a ton of changes to increase DPS it makes the tank stupidly low and if you are going to be a paper shotgun you mise well be a naga with much higher potential DPS.

I say match DPS 80 percent of Drakes tanking and a decent third role.

The Ferox has no distinct role other than a rail ship. You already have had a massive rail and blaster boost give it 80 percent of the drake's tank and then give it a REAL distinct new role.

In my opinion that role could be remote shield transfer. No range bonus but amount bonus per battlecruiser level. That would make it a great ship to use when a logi is too risky or expensive to fly. A logi will outrep and outrange it but it would make the ship an extremely versatile craft.

It is WORTH giving up some tank for!

Um no. You got killed by a perfectly balanced ship. DEAL with it. I have already explained how balanced it is but people keep thinking it is some kind of epic noob ship that can destroy you in a blink of an eye and survive a carrier attack.

A RR Ferox would mean that it gets used. And you can always do a bonus to resist and less buffer HP if you want to give it a group PVE role. Tho for PVP I think you want the 80 percent buffer ability instead.

Shield RRing would give it a great role outside of high DPS. As in ROLE as in Damage, Tank, Repair not the differences between guns and missiles.

Say what? Everything in Eve is about isk, and if you take in account total cost of a loss, then especially Tier 2 battlecruisers are massively underpriced compared to the performance they give.